TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #6

[Charlot123]

Like, the shooters shoulders were generally facing the side of the house.

The shooter was not shooting Liz with the house directly behind Liz.

Either they didn't want to harm the house or they didn't want to accidentally harm someone staying in the house with Liz and Sergio. Or maybe, it was an accidental thing as Liz didn't want to be cornered and walked out from behind the table to stand close to the drive/road.

(But I read a lot of random facts coming from SB, including that his mom was occasionally staying in the house with Liz and him? He is a very chaotic historian).

 

[KindMind1ofA]

I was thinking more along the lines of platforms for communication

It could be as simple as looking up the address in Google maps or apple maps.. anyone who searched on her address in the days leading up to the murder would seem to be a prime suspect.

 

[CrimeTheorist]

The sergeant seemed to be sure it was a black Nissan frontier pro 4X. I always thought the killer could have added the decal to a similar truck to confuse detectives. Does anyone know if there's a similar truck that could easily be altered to look like a pro 4X? Also, the sergeant said it was black while the other detective seemed less sure by saying it was a dark color. I still can't believe there isn't more video of the truck and amazed that this hasn't been solved if they know the vehicle the killer was driving.

 

[arielilane]

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[dub]

The sergeant seemed to be sure it was a black Nissan frontier pro 4X. I always thought the killer could have added the decal to a similar truck to confuse detectives. Does anyone know if there's a similar truck that could easily be altered to look like a pro 4X? Also, the sergeant said it was black while the other detective seemed less sure by saying it was a dark color. I still can't believe there isn't more video of the truck and amazed that this hasn't been solved if they know the vehicle the killer was driving.

Toyota tacomas to me are the closest by far. I think they have more ground clearance and are a little bigger but the body style is pretty similar. I’ve mistaken them for frontiers from the side/back for sure.

The only other thing I can think of that’s even vaguely similar is a Chevy colorado.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Personally I don't think anything looks like a Nissan Frontier other than the Nissan Frontier, they are very distinctive looking if you are remotely familiar with vehicles and wouldn't be confused for another vehicle.

 

[dub]

Personally I don't think anything looks like a Nissan Frontier other than the Nissan Frontier, they are very distinctive looking if you are remotely familiar with vehicles and wouldn't be confused for another vehicle.

That’s what I thought too until I started looking around my neighborhood for frontiers while taking walks to assess whether they are as rare as some seem to think they are.

I know vehicles fairly well and was surprised that I got fooled by tacomas (briefly and at some distance) on a couple occasions.

(Side note, maybe my neighborhood is highly unusual but there are at least seven frontiers within a half mile of my house. I don’t think they are even close to as rare as some believe.)

 

[FromGermany1]

Toyota tacomas to me are the closest by far. I think they have more ground clearance and are a little bigger but the body style is pretty similar. I’ve mistaken them for frontiers from the side/back for sure.

The only other thing I can think of that’s even vaguely similar is a Chevy colorado.

Is the Nissan Frontier the same as the Nissan Navara?

The Frontier is called Navara when sold in Europe. The engine is a 2.5-litre YD25DDTi diesel, with 142 hp (106 kW) or 172 hp (128 kW). The stronger version has 403 N⋅m (297 lb⋅ft) of torque. Suzuki sold a Frontier-based mid-sized pickup produced by Nissan North America at the Smyrna plant.
GOOGLE
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What, if they search for a Frontier and in real it is a Navara?

 

[Centaurus]

Importing a Navara to the US might not be possible. The US has strict import laws for vehicles. It’s easier to get older (25+ years) vehicles imported than newer ones.

And I guess I’m confused why we are still talking about the truck when LE feel pretty confident it’s a Frontier. If I can tell it’s a Frontier, I’m sure a vehicle specialist that works for LE can.

 

[arielilane]

Allegedly...

Whether it be the shooter or the person who hired the shooter, someone did not want the Barraza’s to make the Orlando trip? But, then they would have known about the garage sale? Only a small circle of people knew about the garage sale. Of course, it is possible neighbors saw the signs go up.

The killer appeared adamant that S not be present and waited until S was out of the way before shooting Liz.

We know that the killer drove back by the crime scene- did the killer hear sirens, even after shooting off those four (4) rounds of deafening gunshots! Did they have no other choice but to turn around and drive back by the crime scene?

Speculation: Did an earplug drop out of the killer's ear(s)

Definitively, the killer’s only intention was to kill Liz? It wasn’t a robbery, a mistaken identity, road rage or neighborhood rage of some sort or anything else? It looked very personal.

It looked so personal. I'm so curious the connection between killer and person that contracted the killer. The killer made it look personal... aggressively walked up very quickly toward Liz with purpose. But, what if the killer is actually the one that wanted Liz dead, and didn't hire anyone? Wanted to kill Liz themselves? It makes sense to me. Their body language spoke it!

Did Liz do something to someone, or did someone want Liz out of the way for whatever reason, or what would the motive be? Motive would lead to the killer… I am sure of it.

Who benefits most from the death? Number one question with LE, right?

Someone knows something, and probably dont realize their information is important.

My thoughts, only and topped off with a little spitballing

 

[dub]

Allegedly...

Whether it be the shooter or the person who hired the shooter, someone did not want the Barraza’s to make the Orlando trip? But, then they would have known about the garage sale? Only a small circle of people knew about the garage sale. Of course, it is possible neighbors saw the signs go up.

The killer appeared adamant that S not be present and waited until S was out of the way before shooting Liz.

We know that the killer drove back by the crime scene- did the killer hear sirens, even after shooting off those four (4) rounds of deafening gunshots! Did they have no other choice but to turn around and drive back by the crime scene?

Speculation: Did an earplug drop out of the killer's ear(s)

Definitively, the killer’s only intention was to kill Liz? It wasn’t a robbery, a mistaken identity, road rage or neighborhood rage of some sort or anything else? It looked very personal.

It looked so personal. I'm so curious the connection between killer and person that contracted the killer. The killer made it look personal... aggressively walked up very quickly toward Liz with purpose. But, what if the killer is actually the one that wanted Liz dead, and didn't hire anyone? Wanted to kill Liz themselves? It makes sense to me. Their body language spoke it!

Did Liz do something to someone, or did someone want Liz out of the way for whatever reason, or what would the motive be? Motive would lead to the killer… I am sure of it.

Who benefits most from the death? Number one question with LE, right?

Someone knows something, and probably dont realize their information is important.

My thoughts, only and topped off with a little spitballing

Lot of good questions/discussion points here.

Two cents on each:

-I am pretty confident that the garage sale did have something to do with the timing of the murder, and equally confident that the upcoming trip did not.

-I don't remember the layout of the neighborhood or whether they had "no choice" but to go back by the scene, but even if there was an alternative way out they may not have known about it if they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood.

-It does seem extremely personal. The only thing you mentioned that I don't completely rule out is mistaken identity. I think that is highly unlikely, but to me it's not out of the question.

-I think it's slightly more likely that the killer was hired, but it's almost a coin flip. I definitely don't have a strong opinion on that.

-Motive is really the hardest part here. The only people who might have a legitimate motive I would think would have already been arrested if they had been responsible. In terms of who benefits, I would look first at not who stands to gain from the murder, but at who has a problem removed as a result of the murder. (I am not pointing at a particular person here, just to be clear.)

 

[Sjöberg]

Some things I have developed a mild opinion on over the last year (meaning it could easily not be the case, but atm it feels ever so slightly more likely to be like that).
1. The killer is more likely to be the person who wanted her dead (or one of the people), the motive was personal
2. The killer was searching Liz on google for at least some time before the crime
3. The killer is more likely to not be very local (arrived from at least somewhat elsewhere, might have had that Friday off)
4. Liz did not recognize the killer initially - she might have later (so someone she did not expect at that time and place)
5. While the crime was planned, the killer was not super smart nor organized, that might point to someone "not fluent in crime", someone "high in emotion", someone "with poor executive function" or all of the above.
6. While the killer might be a loner, he or she did have some obligations back at home (not necessarily in the sense of house/family) - the whole thing seems a bit rushed.

Questions:
a) Why drive quickly by the house in the dark at 2AM?
b) Where was the car between the drive and the attack?
c) Why turn into the school parking lot?
d) What was the purpose of the school parking lot break and the following "concealing on a different street"?
e) When arriving, why does the car initially pass Liz (at a rather high speed) and turn around?
f) Why speak to Liz before killing her?
g) Why turn back to the crime scene after the initial escape?
h) Did anything noteworthy happen in Liz's life during the past year? Was she somehow mentioned in some sort of media that the killer might have seen? Did she attend any events where she might have met or re-met someone? (still kinda interested in early August, though I don't really believe the search data any more)

I'm assuming Liz did not marry her first bf ever. Are there people around who know about her previous relationships (including short-term informal ones) and has such information been forwarded to the police?
Was the earlier odd burglary at Liz's and S's home a coincidence or part of something?
Was the gun "borrowed"/purchased for just that crime (I think that's likely re: shot locations and video) and does the gun owner/seller know about the death of Liz?
Was the car borrowed/purchased for just that crime (I think that's somewhat likely re: three-point-turn) and does the car owner/seller know about the death of Liz?

 

[Sjöberg]

Did not plan to double-post, but now reading what I wrote I also want to try to add a very different angle:
maybe it was not the aim to kill Liz specifically. Maybe during that 2AM drive by they did not yet know they would kill her - they were either high on something or looking for a victim or just driving around. Maybe they planned to shoot the first person they see and that happened to be Liz. Would explain the drive by and turn back.
Could be a psychotic person, or maybe some sort of a gang thing, or just pure hate and evil game like with mass shooters.
I know it would not explain the google searches... But we also have no guarantee about the google searches. Just adding angles.

 

[arielilane]

Liz's parents' website has been updated and "more coming soon"

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[Notascreenname]

Liz's parents' website has been updated and "more coming soon"

Who Killed Liz Barraza

A website about Liz Nuelle Barraza and the details around her brutal murder on January 25, 2019 at the hands of a coward.

www.whokilledlizbarraza.com

Links to Press and Media

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Fifth Anniversary Media Coverage We really focused on getting coverage for the 5th Anniversary. Thanks to all who assisted.


December 8, 2023 ABC13-Jessica Willey

December 8, 2023 KPRC2 / Click2Houston KPRC 2 Corley Peel

January 5, 2026 - Fox26 -Randy Wallace FOX 26

January 24, 2024 ABC13-Jessica Willey

January 25, 2024 KPRC2 / Click2Houston 10 AM news Hour with Sofia Ojeda and Owen Conflenti:

Segment 1: Featuring Sgt. Michael Ritchie & Corley Peel

Segment 2 Featuring Bob & Rosemary Nuelle

Segment 3 Featuring Crime Stoppers Rania Mankarious & Andy Kahan

January 25, 2024 Press Conference at Crime Stoppers of Houston
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January 26 2024 Crime Online - Nancy Grace

Thanks. Her parents seem like incredible people. The world has definitely suffered a huge loss without Liz being in it. I feel that LE are getting closer and closer to finding the perp.

 

[Sjöberg]

• Early Morning [06:55:08 AM] The truck is captured on her doorbell cam passing back by Liz’s house.
• Early Morning [06:58:52 AM] Harris County Precinct 4 Constables arrive to investigate and secure the scene.

Less than 4 minutes difference. This is so crazy. This is a residential neighbourhood with a complicated layout, not a highway, not so quick to get out.
But this is still too long of a difference to assume that they saw or heard the cop cars arriving, IMO. So why turn back...

 

[lonewanderer]

Some things I have developed a mild opinion on over the last year (meaning it could easily not be the case, but atm it feels ever so slightly more likely to be like that).
1. The killer is more likely to be the person who wanted her dead (or one of the people), the motive was personal
2. The killer was searching Liz on google for at least some time before the crime
3. The killer is more likely to not be very local (arrived from at least somewhat elsewhere, might have had that Friday off)
4. Liz did not recognize the killer initially - she might have later (so someone she did not expect at that time and place)
5. While the crime was planned, the killer was not super smart nor organized, that might point to someone "not fluent in crime", someone "high in emotion", someone "with poor executive function" or all of the above.
6. While the killer might be a loner, he or she did have some obligations back at home (not necessarily in the sense of house/family) - the whole thing seems a bit rushed.

Questions:
a) Why drive quickly by the house in the dark at 2AM?
b) Where was the car between the drive and the attack?
c) Why turn into the school parking lot?
d) What was the purpose of the school parking lot break and the following "concealing on a different street"?
e) When arriving, why does the car initially pass Liz (at a rather high speed) and turn around?
f) Why speak to Liz before killing her?
g) Why turn back to the crime scene after the initial escape?
h) Did anything noteworthy happen in Liz's life during the past year? Was she somehow mentioned in some sort of media that the killer might have seen? Did she attend any events where she might have met or re-met someone? (still kinda interested in early August, though I don't really believe the search data any more)

I'm assuming Liz did not marry her first bf ever. Are there people around who know about her previous relationships (including short-term informal ones) and has such information been forwarded to the police?
Was the earlier odd burglary at Liz's and S's home a coincidence or part of something?
Was the gun "borrowed"/purchased for just that crime (I think that's likely re: shot locations and video) and does the gun owner/seller know about the death of Liz?
Was the car borrowed/purchased for just that crime (I think that's somewhat likely re: three-point-turn) and does the car owner/seller know about the death of Liz?

As for the 2am drive by, I wonder if its possible the shooter simply had nowhere else to go. If this person was lying to their roommate/partner/spouse about their whereabouts and couldn't go home, what else would they do while they waited?

As for the gun, I theorize that it was either a very specific choice to use that gun, as a revolver does not leave casings and is extremely unlikely to malfunction. On the opposite side of the spectrum, I theorize the gun was a spur of the moment or simply the only gun the shooter could get their hands on (an old gun on top of grandpa's safe, their gunnut boyfriend having a surplus and not noticing that one was missing).

I speculate the truck belonged to an out of town/state visitor, and was borrowed, with or without the owner's knowledge. I think the shooter made a compelling excuse to use the truck that early in the morning (baby won't sleep, out of formula, out of tampons) or just straight up nagged the owner until they gave in to keep from hearing any more of it. One of those, or simply took the keys while the owner was sleeping (could explain the 2am drive by and the quick getaway trying to return it before the owner woke up). Yes, I believe the shooter is female and this (in my mind) is a similar mindset of a rotten person that would walk up to another woman and shoot them point blank.

Why speak to Liz? I speculate they were confirming or confronting. Some fictional example of this is if Liz had acted as a witness against them in something. I imagine them holding up a memo or document to confront them with. I also speculate it could have been a screenshot of text exchange or a picture. One highly unlikely theory is that Liz's pictures were being used to catfish someone, another fairly unlikely scenario is the shooter was deaf and could not speak so had a written message, which makes a little sense because the shooter does not seem to flinch AT ALL when they shoot the gun, and why the voices heard on the ring doorbell audio are unintelligible.

One bothersome thing is that Liz is shot before we see her reaction. She does take a HUGE panicked step back before the left arm is extended and leans in very slightly before she is shot. We do not get to see her make a face like "whoa whoa whoa! Thats not me! I can explain!" or like "Seriously? You are upset about that? Grow up."

 

[Sillybilly]

Could someone please link a copy of the police report if we have one.

Thanks very much !!

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

One thought I had is if I wonder if it is possible that one reason the killer drove back pass the house is because they already had an escape route planned/route to abandon, hide or return return the Nissan Frontier that they needed to stick to it? Perhaps in their adrenaline rush they took off after the shooting and then realized they were going in the wrong direction, thus the U-turn?

Perhaps that was also another reason for the 2 AM drive-by? The killer had to scope the Barraza household and the escape route ahead of time?

I remember a comment from earlier last year that implied the killer may have intentionally avoided the incoming first responders and buses based on the route they took to get away from the crime scene? I wonder if this means that the killer was familiar enough with the neighborhood that they knew which direction both the firehouses, EMTs and buses would come from? This does make me wonder how familiar were they with the Barrazas and if they had witnessed an emergency or police response before and thus used that to design their escape plans?

Just my own speculation

 

[arielilane]

It appears the killer was very familiar with the neighborhood? The planning of the crime appeared precise -- the time impeccable -- knew not only the Barraza’s schedule, but the logistics of the neighborhood -- did they know that a neighbor would usually return home early morning after a night of work? Did they know the usual time a school bus would drive by the Barraza's street?

And what about the usual cars that would drive by the house each morning? Or a neighbor walking his dog?
Typical everyday things, which it appears the killer may have known about. Killer appeared to know the crime had to be executed at that precise moment.

Who would know all of that? Who is the mastermind behind the horrific execution of Liz Barraza?

All speculation -- no facts