TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #6

[arielilane]

Any new info?

Nothing since the month of January 2024, which marked 5 years since Liz was murdered -- unless I've missed something. Anyone else caught an update?

Maybe arrests next month to celebrate Liz's birth month? moo

Links to Press and Media

default description

whokilledlizbarraza.com

 

[ilovewings]

Nothing since the month of January 2024, which marked 5 years since Liz was murdered -- unless I've missed something. Anyone else caught an update?

Maybe arrests next month to celebrate Liz's birth month? moo

Links to Press and Media

default description

whokilledlizbarraza.com

Honestly, I am feeling kind of hopeless about if they will solve this case.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Honestly, I am feeling kind of hopeless about if they will solve this case.

There's always that hope that someone talks, that a relationship splits up and someone feels safe to talk, etc. Keep hoping!

 

[arielilane]

Maybe someone will want to cut a deal for a lesser sentence? Isn't TX a death penalty state? moo

 

[arielilane]

Someone knows something...

 

[ilovewings]

Someone knows something...

I agree- but that someone or someones are not coming forward with information

 

[Charlot123]

There's always that hope that someone talks, that a relationship splits up and someone feels safe to talk, etc. Keep hoping!

Well, if someone was hired, and didn’t get the money or is waiting “till the money will be available”, watch what happens if money is not available. If the money became available, follow the money…

I suspect the money was involved in the case, but there is a couple of intermediaries, which makes it complicated, but also, potentially weak.

Also, there were two statements by SB, one of which was made surprisingly early but didn’t prove to be true. The other one was throwing spotlight on the father. Surely there were other relatives? Did someone stay at home that day?

What is surprising - by analogy, Dan Markel case. A rich family, the murderers having extremely marginal connection with them. How come that connection was traced, and nothing about Liz B is?

 

[arielilane]

Who killed Elizabeth Barraza? Crime Stoppers offering reward up to $50,000​

 

[arielilane]

I dont believe Dateline has ever completed a show about Liz Barraza. moo

What Happened to Liz Barraza? | Dateline NBC​

 

[CrimeTheorist]

The case kind of reminds me of the murder of Marlene Warren (the case of the killer clown), with someone dressing up to commit the crime. Unfortunately there's no DNA evidence in this case like that one. But I definitely think the motive could be the same... someone wanting to be with the husband.

 

[lonewanderer]

The case kind of reminds me of the murder of Marlene Warren (the case of the killer clown), with someone dressing up to commit the crime. Unfortunately there's no DNA evidence in this case like that one. But I definitely think the motive could be the same... someone wanting to be with the husband.

I point to that case and Missy Bevers case as a Venn Diagram of theories with Lizs.

Lizs case is almost identical to Kaityln Armstrong and Mo Wilson. In Texas, woman in late 20s to mid 30s gunned down almost exactly like Liz was (shot to ground and shot will on the ground) The distinctive jeep seen on Ring camera and the killer also drove back by to look at Mo.

 

[lonewanderer]

Well, if someone was hired, and didn’t get the money or is waiting “till the money will be available”, watch what happens if money is not available. If the money became available, follow the money…

I suspect the money was involved in the case, but there is a couple of intermediaries, which makes it complicated, but also, potentially weak.

Also, there were two statements by SB, one of which was made surprisingly early but didn’t prove to be true. The other one was throwing spotlight on the father. Surely there were other relatives? Did someone stay at home that day?

What is surprising - by analogy, Dan Markel case. A rich family, the murderers having extremely marginal connection with them. How come that connection was traced, and nothing about Liz B is?

Many times, a hitman is a total dunce who takes out a hit for a low sum or money or other advantage. It happens quite a lot in many cases.

The hiring person usually doesn’t want to leave a trail, can blame the hitman, plausible deniability.

There was a recent case where a woman had her ex husband killed by her boyfriend’s tenant in exchange for not paying rent. Jared Bridgegan.

 

[Sjöberg]

My kind of top theory is still that it was something very personal, but not directly connected to the husband - but as everyone was looking at the husband (understandably), something vital was probably missed to have solid proof against the real culprit. We know so little about Liz's life, but I do hope she had enough long-time friends who could tell LE about any creepy ex-boyfriends, stalking randos, any crazy ex-gf-s of any of her boyfriends or husband, unstable oddballs in her circles etc.
If I ask any of my female friends, they can pretty much all easily name 1-2 exes who kinda flipped, 1-5 randos from the bars or similar who harassed them long-term, at least one super jealous ex of an ex etc. It is hard to believe there was never anyone like that in Liz's life, given that she was beautiful, vibrant and active in the community.

 

[Charlot123]

The case kind of reminds me of the murder of Marlene Warren (the case of the killer clown), with someone dressing up to commit the crime. Unfortunately there's no DNA evidence in this case like that one. But I definitely think the motive could be the same... someone wanting to be with the husband.

I think there could be a situation when several people had similar ultimate interest (money), so they converged.

About the husband. With his personality, he is of no interest unless he is rich. Sorry. I think Liz chose him for his perceived loyalty and she must have trusted him…

For some reason, it reminds me the killing of Kassanndra Cantrell. Not in the terms of the situation, but in terms of a peaceful geek interested in a theater who seemed nice and had zero history of previous violence, yet look at the level of coldness and detachment with which he killed her.

Maybe this is where the police is stuck. Perhaps if they acknowledge that some people have lack of emotions that penetrates to the bones, without any prior history of violence, they will solve the case.

Just to explain. I am not suspecting only the husband. His chance is 40/60 statistically. It had to be someone close to her. In the circle she was running with, there could be several people who could do it. But, they had to be close enough and know a lot.

 

[lonewanderer]

I think there could be a situation when several people had similar ultimate interest (money), so they converged.

About the husband. With his personality, he is of no interest unless he is rich. Sorry. I think Liz chose him for his perceived loyalty and she must have trusted him…

For some reason, it reminds me the killing of Kassanndra Cantrell. Not in the terms of the situation, but in terms of a peaceful geek interested in a theater who seemed nice and had zero history of previous violence, yet look at the level of coldness and detachment with which he killed her.

Maybe this is where the police is stuck. Perhaps if they acknowledge that some people have lack of emotions that penetrates to the bones, without any prior history of violence, they will solve the case.

Just to explain. I am not suspecting only the husband. His chance is 40/60 statistically. It had to be someone close to her. In the circle she was running with, there could be several people who could do it. But, they had to be close enough and know a lot.

In one of my branches of theories, Sergio was co-conspiring with a Legion member to mishandle some of the donation funds.

Liz discovered this (or knew nothing of it but the shooter was paranoid about it) and was ultimately killed for it. Hence, why Sergio quickly walked back the name he immediately threw out when Liz was shot. He realized he had a lot to lose by outing this person.

It's one of my legs of a tree of a theory for this case. I have a couple of other ones too for sure.

Also, the media seemed to intentionally portray Sergio as a chubby nerd with no social skills. Some of the footage of him from the crime scene makes him look dazed, and some of the pictures of him with Liz make him look like the stereotypical nerd.

This seems like it is not the case at all when you look more into it. When he is speaking to the officers in the dashcam footage, he seems like a pretty cool and down to earth guy you could conversate with on a variety of topics. He didn't really have the nerd lack of social skills persona.

Also, in some recent pics of him, he has nice styled hair, button down short sleeve shirts, tattoos, and does not appear to be chubby.

I don't personally think Sergio is the typical nerd who married just for companionship and a female to hold his hand through everything. Many people seem to think that but it just doesn't come off that way to me.

 

[SnowAngels]

In one of my branches of theories, Sergio was co-conspiring with a Legion member to mishandle some of the donation funds.

Liz discovered this (or knew nothing of it but the shooter was paranoid about it) and was ultimately killed for it. Hence, why Sergio quickly walked back the name he immediately threw out when Liz was shot. He realized he had a lot to lose by outing this person.

It's one of my legs of a tree of a theory for this case. I have a couple of other ones too for sure.

Also, the media seemed to intentionally portray Sergio as a chubby nerd with no social skills. Some of the footage of him from the crime scene makes him look dazed, and some of the pictures of him with Liz make him look like the stereotypical nerd.

This seems like it is not the case at all when you look more into it. When he is speaking to the officers in the dashcam footage, he seems like a pretty cool and down to earth guy you could conversate with on a variety of topics. He didn't really have the nerd lack of social skills persona.

Also, in some recent pics of him, he has nice styled hair, button down short sleeve shirts, tattoos, and does not appear to be chubby.

I don't personally think Sergio is the typical nerd who married just for companionship and a female to hold his hand through everything. Many people seem to think that but it just doesn't come off that way to me.

I think many people automatically think Star Wars Fan/cosplay = “nerd”

 

[lonewanderer]

I think many people automatically think Star Wars Fan/cosplay = “nerd”

This is true, and I think the media went out of their way to portray him as the “neck beard” type.

 

[Charlot123]

In one of my branches of theories, Sergio was co-conspiring with a Legion member to mishandle some of the donation funds.

Liz discovered this (or knew nothing of it but the shooter was paranoid about it) and was ultimately killed for it. Hence, why Sergio quickly walked back the name he immediately threw out when Liz was shot. He realized he had a lot to lose by outing this person.

It's one of my legs of a tree of a theory for this case. I have a couple of other ones too for sure.

Also, the media seemed to intentionally portray Sergio as a chubby nerd with no social skills. Some of the footage of him from the crime scene makes him look dazed, and some of the pictures of him with Liz make him look like the stereotypical nerd.

This seems like it is not the case at all when you look more into it. When he is speaking to the officers in the dashcam footage, he seems like a pretty cool and down to earth guy you could conversate with on a variety of topics. He didn't really have the nerd lack of social skills persona.

Also, in some recent pics of him, he has nice styled hair, button down short sleeve shirts, tattoos, and does not appear to be chubby.

I don't personally think Sergio is the typical nerd who married just for companionship and a female to hold his hand through everything. Many people seem to think that but it just doesn't come off that way to me.

We know brilliant and very successful nerds; I am looking at the whole package here. CB works at his dad’s business, dad’s checks bounce… Not independent for his age, that is. Wife has to wake up early and have a yard sale because they have to be frugal to afford that anniversary trip. That, too.

As to being nerdy/not nerdy. My problem is, I don’t know how to read his first interview with the police. It can come as “an anxious, introverted person has just found out about his wife’s death, and his reaction is very typical for his group”, or “he is a very bad actor”. If I didn’t suspect high anxiety/introversion, I’d say “a bad actor.” By the same token, for a person scoring highly on anxiety/introversion, this type of reaction would be very normal. Detached, but panicky. So I don’t know what to think.

 

[jennytrevor]

About the husband. With his personality, he is of no interest unless he is rich. Sorry. I think Liz chose him for his perceived loyalty and she must have trusted him…

Also, the media seemed to intentionally portray Sergio as a chubby nerd with no social skills. Some of the footage of him from the crime scene makes him look dazed, and some of the pictures of him with Liz make him look like the stereotypical nerd.

This seems like it is not the case at all when you look more into it. When he is speaking to the officers in the dashcam footage, he seems like a pretty cool and down to earth guy you could conversate with on a variety of topics. He didn't really have the nerd lack of social skills persona.

Also, in some recent pics of him, he has nice styled hair, button down short sleeve shirts, tattoos, and does not appear to be chubby.

I don't personally think Sergio is the typical nerd who married just for companionship and a female to hold his hand through everything. Many people seem to think that but it just doesn't come off that way to me.

We know brilliant and very successful nerds; I am looking at the whole package here. CB works at his dad’s business, dad’s checks bounce… Not independent for his age, that is. Wife has to wake up early and have a yard sale because they have to be frugal to afford that anniversary trip. That, too.

Seriously? I see Liz and Sergio being a very compatible match based on personality and interests, and frankly appearance and social status as well. I find these posts directly tearing at Sergio as a person fairly strange as to me he seems to be a completely typical man at his age. I am not sure the age of many of you commenters, but if you weren't aware, nerd culture is very common with people in the Barraza's age group and there are all types of people within it. They are not antisocial. In fact, I would say the type of people in cosplaying groups would largely be outgoing as you have to have a level of confidence to do that in public. And what happened to judging based on appearances? I don't know about everyone else, but I learned not to do that as a child, and I have encountered all types of personalities of adults in all sorts of presentations. Nerdy looking guys can be well-spoken and friendly, shocker!

I also think "working for his dad's business" is not the same as "not independent for his age." That's ridiculous. Do you know how many people end up working for their parent's business? Or get a job through a connection? Many many people, especially in their 20s.

 

[lonewanderer]

Seriously? I see Liz and Sergio being a very compatible match based on personality and interests, and frankly appearance and social status as well. I find these posts directly tearing at Sergio as a person fairly strange as to me he seems to be a completely typical man at his age. I am not sure the age of many of you commenters, but if you weren't aware, nerd culture is very common with people in the Barraza's age group and there are all types of people within it. They are not antisocial. In fact, I would say the type of people in cosplaying groups would largely be outgoing as you have to have a level of confidence to do that in public. And what happened to judging based on appearances? I don't know about everyone else, but I learned not to do that as a child, and I have encountered all types of personalities of adults in all sorts of presentations. Nerdy looking guys can be well-spoken and friendly, shocker!

I also think "working for his dad's business" is not the same as "not independent for his age." That's ridiculous. Do you know how many people end up working for their parent's business? Or get a job through a connection? Many many people, especially in their 20s.

The point I was trying to make is that I think Sergio appears to be a normal dude, not a neckbeard like the media tends to present him as.