TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #7

[TraxMaster]

Liz wasn't handicapped so I seriously doubt it was an argument over a handicapped parking spot. I think the connection with the party supply store needs looking into.

 

[sunspun]

Liz wasn't handicapped so I seriously doubt it was an argument over a handicapped parking spot. I think the connection with the party supply store needs looking into.

Was that her current job at the time of the murder, or a former job of hers?

 

[Charlot123]

Liz wasn't handicapped so I seriously doubt it was an argument over a handicapped parking spot. I think the connection with the party supply store needs looking into.

It might be either of her works. JMO - with one degree of separation.

I am coming back to Kaitlin Armstrong’s story. Kaitlin was slowly encroaching on Colin’s space, tried to be indispensable and was in successful denial that he didn’t love her. And then comes Mo, independent and career-oriented, and suddenly the reality is obvious. Call it epiphany. Now, Colin would always see the “inertia” of his relationship with Kaitlin. People say that Kaitlin hated Mo because “Mo was everything that she was not”, but I think that Mo was merely the catalyst. Kaitlin saw that “one more man doesn’t love me, I am not worthy.” But was Mo even anware how much Kaitlin hated her? I think, not. (Some calls from a lunatic, but Mo, an elite athlete, was probably used to jealous women.) Moreover, what in Kaitlin could predict a murderer?

So by analogy… JMO, Liz wasn’t killed for what she did or didn’t do. It was for what she once said, and for the role that she unwittingly played. A very insecure person happened to project all their lack of success on Liz because truth would hurt too much.

IMHO, Liz was worldly and easily approachable. Her parents said her life with Sergio was happy. I can imagine another person, a coworker, talking about someone unknown to Liz. The acquaintance was getting “serious” with them. Liz likely said something generalized, but it hit the right nerve. I think she herself didn’t pay attention to it. However, the coworker could have later said, “you know, my coworker Liz Barraza talks about her interesting life with her husband, and I suddenly realized how dull is ours; it is not worthy.” I think mentioning Liz was just the pretext, the relationship was doomed anyhow, but the name was said to a grudge collector. So all their anger got lazer-focused on Liz.

I suspect that the person is not known to Liz; hence the whole plan. Having looked at them, I agree with you, @TraxMaster , that they might wear some vinyl poncho. Maybe the rainboots are not what the person wears on a typical day. Either, indeed, the coworker works at the party supply store and the attire is symbolic, or the assassin even came to the store to buy it.

- Should one check register checks for purchases around the time Liz was killed?

I don’t know what was caught on the Nest cam but Liz’s dad said that they were “a sure people”, so “ughm” and “sure” would fit Liz. Then maybe “it is not worthy” was, indeed, uttered and had some symbolic meaning, too? The paper should have provided the explanation, and I think Liz remembered the episode, but she was dying. Maybe it was a phrase, or a nickname, even a geographical location. I think that the whole plan was built on: lack of direct connection between Liz and the person; the fact that the person was/stayed very close to someone working with Liz (remained FWB?); the fact that Liz, per her mother, discussed the forthcoming sale with many people.

From this standpoint, Liz would probably be more prone to tell Sergio of talking to friends; it wasn’t big for her. Would he remember?

P.S. A disability might explain the driver (a relative?).

 

[Charlot123]

It was Aaron Stoner and that audio analysis, along with the gait, and costume is why I believe the shooter is male, too.

There may be a disconnect between the gender and the voice.

 

[fridaybaker]

I've seen people "key" a person's vehicle over this. To kill for it would be next level.

Sadly, it happens more often than you’d think. One mother recently fatally shot another mother as they were trying to get the same parking spot while picking up their children from school in Kansas City.

 

[TraxMaster]

It might be either of her works. JMO - with one degree of separation.

I am coming back to Kaitlin Armstrong’s story. Kaitlin was slowly encroaching on Colin’s space, tried to be indispensable and was in successful denial that he didn’t love her. And then comes Mo, independent and career-oriented, and suddenly the reality is obvious. Call it epiphany. Now, Colin would always see the “inertia” of his relationship with Kaitlin. People say that Kaitlin hated Mo because “Mo was everything that she was not”, but I think that Mo was merely the catalyst. Kaitlin saw that “one more man doesn’t love me, I am not worthy.” But was Mo even anware how much Kaitlin hated her? I think, not. (Some calls from a lunatic, but Mo, an elite athlete, was probably used to jealous women.) Moreover, what in Kaitlin could predict a murderer?

So by analogy… JMO, Liz wasn’t killed for what she did or didn’t do. It was for what she once said, and for the role that she unwittingly played. A very insecure person happened to project all their lack of success on Liz because truth would hurt too much.

IMHO, Liz was worldly and easily approachable. Her parents said her life with Sergio was happy. I can imagine another person, a coworker, talking about someone unknown to Liz. The acquaintance was getting “serious” with them. Liz likely said something generalized, but it hit the right nerve. I think she herself didn’t pay attention to it. However, the coworker could have later said, “you know, my coworker Liz Barraza talks about her interesting life with her husband, and I suddenly realized how dull is ours; it is not worthy.” I think mentioning Liz was just the pretext, the relationship was doomed anyhow, but the name was said to a grudge collector. So all their anger got lazer-focused on Liz.

I suspect that the person is not known to Liz; hence the whole plan. Having looked at them, I agree with you, @TraxMaster , that they might wear some vinyl poncho. Maybe the rainboots are not what the person wears on a typical day. Either, indeed, the coworker works at the party supply store and the attire is symbolic, or the assassin even came to the store to buy it.

- Should one check register checks for purchases around the time Liz was killed?

I don’t know what was caught on the Nest cam but Liz’s dad said that they were “a sure people”, so “ughm” and “sure” would fit Liz. Then maybe “it is not worthy” was, indeed, uttered and had some symbolic meaning, too? The paper should have provided the explanation, and I think Liz remembered the episode, but she was dying. Maybe it was a phrase, or a nickname, even a geographical location. I think that the whole plan was built on: lack of direct connection between Liz and the person; the fact that the person was/stayed very close to someone working with Liz (remained FWB?); the fact that Liz, per her mother, discussed the forthcoming sale with many people.

From this standpoint, Liz would probably be more prone to tell Sergio of talking to friends; it wasn’t big for her. Would he remember?

P.S. A disability might explain the driver (a relative?).

I agree with the potential MO behind this. Your scenario, or a work issue etc...could all be potential motives. Is there a way to inquire with her parents and Sergio regarding her coworkers and boss at the time from the Cool Kat Party Warehouse store? Did she maybe have a coworker going through a rough relationship or a bad break-up? The vehicle could belong to a relative. I know my loser of a brother would constantly use my dad's vehicle to drive places with it like it was his when he was living with my dad. My brother even moved his gf in and they bummed off my dad all the time. They both had their own vehicles but preferred to use my dad's bc he would refill it and they could park in handicap parking. Yeah I know...a real winner of a guy lol.

 

[TraxMaster]

Was that her current job at the time of the murder, or a former job of hers?

According to her LinkedIn she was still working there as well as her job at Rosen.

 

[lonewanderer]

Here's the picture of the Nissan I saw parked there. View attachment 545692

Wounded Warrior Project? Disabled military vet?

 

[arielilane]

Coincidence?

On Jan. 25, 2019, Liz Barraza is seen on a neighbor’s camera setting up for a garage sale at her home.

A dark pickup truck is seen pulling up and a suspect briskly walks up to Liz Barraza and cowardly shots her.

Not much later a similar dark truck is pulled over by LE; however, the driver of the truck is free to go.

My own opinion is no, it’s not a coincidence.

One day the truth will be told.

Approaching six years since the coward(s) chose to end Liz’s life.

 

[lisette]

Coincidence?

On Jan. 25, 2019, Liz Barraza is seen on a neighbor’s camera setting up for a garage sale at her home.

A dark pickup truck is seen pulling up and a suspect briskly walks up to Liz Barraza and cowardly shots her.

Not much later a similar dark truck is pulled over by LE; however, the driver of the truck is free to go.

My own opinion is no, it’s not a coincidence.

One day the truth will be told.

Approaching six years since the coward(s) chose to end Liz’s life.

What do you think is not a coincidence…LE stopping the dark truck? Or the driver being free to go? Just curious.

 

[TraxMaster]

Coincidence?

On Jan. 25, 2019, Liz Barraza is seen on a neighbor’s camera setting up for a garage sale at her home.

A dark pickup truck is seen pulling up and a suspect briskly walks up to Liz Barraza and cowardly shots her.

Not much later a similar dark truck is pulled over by LE; however, the driver of the truck is free to go.

My own opinion is no, it’s not a coincidence.

One day the truth will be told.

Approaching six years since the coward(s) chose to end Liz’s life.

Wouldn't the detective have already chased down that lead? Did LE not take a license plate to interview the individual driving that truck to rule them in or out? What do.we know or not know about that situation?

Honestly though it doesn't seem like much exploring of her other work place has been discussed much and it's never been mentioned by LE from what I have found. Feel that is a route that needs to be explorered since all others have had zero true leads to show for it in all these years....still not even an MO....there has to be another avenue that just hasn't been explored that would reveal the MO.

 

[Charlot123]

Wouldn't the detective have already chased down that lead? Did LE not take a license plate to interview the individual driving that truck to rule them in or out? What do.we know or not know about that situation?

Honestly though it doesn't seem like much exploring of her other work place has been discussed much and it's never been mentioned by LE from what I have found. Feel that is a route that needs to be explorered since all others have had zero true leads to show for it in all these years....still not even an MO....there has to be another avenue that just hasn't been explored that would reveal the MO.

A) a person of good standing
B) having the reason to be there
C) probably, having no obvious connections with Liz

So there is no reason to rule that person in but...at least, they are known

 

[CrimeTheorist]

I've noticed in other cases police will sometimes clear a person because they passed a lie detector test or they didn't seem like a bad person. Hopefully that's not the situation here. I feel like they need to interrogate someone and not just ask them questions politely but grill people that may be involved to get answers.

 

[TraxMaster]

A) a person of good standing
B) having the reason to be there
C) probably, having no obvious connections with Liz

So there is no reason to rule that person in but...at least, they are known

That's why I asked the question to arielilane bc she doesn't think that the truck that was pulled over by LE should be ruled out. So that is why I was asking if we actually KNOW the reason they were let go? Did LE ever state the reason?
But yes Charlot123 I would think the ABCs you listed would be the reason they did let them go as well.

 

[TraxMaster]

I wonder if police have ever gotten a report of an abandoned vehicle that matched the truck's description shortly after the shooting?

Who is the current detective on Liz's case now?

 

[lonewanderer]

I wonder if police have ever gotten a report of an abandoned vehicle that matched the truck's description shortly after the shooting?

Who is the current detective on Liz's case now?

That's a might nice, mighty expensive toy to just abandon.

I am convinced that the truck was either stolen or borrowed, with or without the owner's permission.

For me, I am convinced the truck is still being driven around by the owner with little to no awareness that it was involved in a crime, and the owner is likely from out of state.

I mentioned it before, but in a somewhat similar case, Sheila Warren dressed up as a clown and shot her love rival in the face, at her home, in her doorway. Warren's getaway car was a car that a couple had rented to drive around and look at new cars with. The couple mistakenly returned it to the dealership Warren worked at. Warren then used the vehicle in the crime and then abandoned it.

When Aaron Hernandez shot a carful of men at a stoplight, he had his SUV stashed in his cousin's garage and it wasn't uncovered until a few years later and Hernandez had shot and killed Odin Lloyd.

In Sheila Warren's case, the perfect storm happened with the car, Warren was able to ditch it quickly without leaving ties to her, along with a few other aspects that made it the perfect storm (which I believe may very well be the case for many aspects of Liz's)

Hernandez had lots of money and the car was pretty disposable, with a loyal person willing to take it for him. He was a very well known celebrity in that area, being from there and all.

For Liz's case, I think the truck was just too nice and too expensive for it to be stashed in a storage unit or at someone's home. Between the likely payments being made to that truck, the lack of people willing to cover up the crime, and the questions that came about from someone suddenly not having their truck lead me to believe:

1. The truck was likely from out of state
2. The actual owner is unaware that the truck was used for a crime.
3. The shooter (who I think is female) likely bugged the ever loving heck out of a boyfriend or out of town visitor until they let her borrow it. I think she may have made a child related excuse (can't get baby to sleep, need milk etc), harassed/bullied the owner into using it (this person shot Liz point blank, stone cold. Surely they are psychotic enough to resort to bullying, threats, and manipulation) or just straight up took the truck while the owner was sleeping.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Here's the picture of the Nissan I saw parked there. View attachment 545692

It appears to me and others that the tailgate is down in the cam footage of the killer's vehicle. The wounded Warrior sticker would make it easier to find.

It appears to me that this same information was widely discussed on SM/Reddit two years ago and it's not the right truck, due to the differences. What is the exact address of the store in this photo? '
And to be clear, you stated "Nissan I saw parked there", did you mean that?

 

[itsdev]

I wonder if police have ever gotten a report of an abandoned vehicle that matched the truck's description shortly after the shooting?

Who is the current detective on Liz's case now?

Sgt. Michael Ritchie - Harris County Sheriff’s Office

 

[scruffydog]

Sgt. Michael Ritchie - Harris County Sheriff’s Office

I actually think the truck may be in Mexico

 

[TraxMaster]

I actually think the truck may be in Mexico

Why do you think that?