TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #7

[dm799]

Seems ice cold, sadly.

 

[ilovewings]

Seems ice cold, sadly.

sadly it does look ice cold

 

[Blackflags]

If it can be used to verify it connected to ther Sergio Ring doorbell, I think it could at least be a tool to determine if someone was connected to their WiFi.

Any information about this could lead to more. Where it was manufactured and sold, possibly where it was activated, other phones in close proximity of it (like LISK) etc.

So you're absolutely correct. I'm not sure what could be done now. Definitely not a packet capture on the Ring Doorbell to see which devices were connected. I don't know how far they back they log. I am sure it's possible that information could be sitting in a database somewhere. I've never used one, so I don't know how sophisticated the software is.

That being said, yes, a MAC address is useful in identifying a device. But, you would have to trace it back. Where it was sold and activiated, like you said. As far as the proximity, Geofencing, I have never done anything like this (BS in Digital Forensics), so I don't know all of what it entails. But, taking all that into account, none of that is going to matter if the person who purchased it disguised their identity. Your best bet would be to identify the devices that sent out a signal to their Ring (They aren't just going to auto connect, unless it was someone who has been connected to it before), pull their MAC addresses, or IMEI, etc, and go from there. That would at least give you some information to trace back and then look into purchase history.

But, if this person did have a phone on them, and they were smart enough to disguise all the steps going into purchasing a burner phone, then it sadly isn't going to lead anywhere, unless that device is found, forensically analyzed, and it hopefully paints a picture of the person's identity.

One can only hope.

 

[CaseTrace]

I wonder why such an early time was considered for the garage sale - is it normal?

 

[CaseTrace]

Also if the killer had an accomplice how is it even possible that the truth is still hidden?

 

[Ladyotm]

Do we know who robbed them or what was taken when Liz and Sergio were robbed on their 3rd floor apartment that time? I'm really curious about that like.if maybe someone has been targeting Liz for some time. It could also be a pure coincidence too, but do we know more about what was taken? Seems weird to rob someone on the 3rd floor.

Very good question. How long before her murder was the burglary? Do we know if other burglaries had been committed in the complex?

 

[Ladyotm]

Do we know who robbed them or what was taken when Liz and Sergio were robbed on their 3rd floor apartment that time? I'm really curious about that like.if maybe someone has been targeting Liz for some time. It could also be a pure coincidence too, but do we know more about what was taken? Seems weird to rob someone on the 3rd floor.

Very good question. How long before her murder was the burglary? Do we know if other burglaries had been committed in the complex?

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

If it can be used to verify it connected to ther Sergio Ring doorbell, I think it could at least be a tool to determine if someone was connected to their WiFi.

Any information about this could lead to more. Where it was manufactured and sold, possibly where it was activated, other phones in close proximity of it (like LISK) etc.

I'm not exactly sure of what you are thinking could have been a possibiliy here, but a person who had access to their WIFI and/or Ring live feed would not need to arrive hours early and drive around the neighborhood, risking being recorded, being seen by witnesses, etc. I would guess that LE did look at phones that appeared to be in the area at that time.

Ring cameras themselves do not keep a log but one can log onto their account and there are alerts if a new device logged onto your account. I get alerts on my phone, when I use a new device. But they would need your account password, and have their mobile device synced (while near it) with that specific camera, also password protected. Connecting to someone's home WIFI, also not casually possible, would not give you access to watch their camera's live feed. I don't know anyone that doesn't use a mobile phone app to access their Ring camera.
Anywho, I can't see someone doing this, too much digital evidence.
MOO

 

[Centaurus]

I wonder why such an early time was considered for the garage sale - is it normal?

Yes. In my state, garage sales start on Friday morning at sunrise. The hardcore and resellers usually come out Friday. The more casual garage sale shoppers show up on Saturday and Sunday.

 

[lonewanderer]

I'm not exactly sure of what you are thinking could have been a possibiliy here, but a person who had access to their WIFI and/or Ring live feed would not need to arrive hours early and drive around the neighborhood, risking being recorded, being seen by witnesses, etc. I would guess that LE did look at phones that appeared to be in the area at that time.

Ring cameras themselves do not keep a log but one can log onto their account and there are alerts if a new device logged onto your account. I get alerts on my phone, when I use a new device. But they would need your account password, and have their mobile device synced (while near it) with that specific camera, also password protected. Connecting to someone's home WIFI, also not casually possible, would not give you access to watch their camera's live feed. I don't know anyone that doesn't use a mobile phone app to access their Ring camera.
Anywho, I can't see someone doing this, too much digital evidence.
MOO

Yea, it’s a ton of forensics but there is lots of ways to avoid it.

Buy burners, borrow/steal someone else’s devices, use someone’s device who already has network access (a person close to Liz who would want Liz dead) be given Ring access or obtain it. Social engineering is the biggest culprit of cybersecurity compromises, it isn’t too awful difficult to break into/obtain/or be given someone’s WiFi/Ring credentials.

What goes does the Ring access do them? They can see when Sergio leaves, can see when Liz is alone, and it seems mighty darn convenient the shooter walks up around the time Liz is heading back outside.

I also have lots of control measures for my home ring bell, but it’s on my wife’s account and I just look at it from my phone. If something was going to happen to me and someone had Ring access, I would be none the wiser.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Most criminals are just not that sophisticated. If there is any connection to the victim, LE usually finds it relatively quickly. When the connections can't be made it is usually because those connections aren't there, not because the perp was just that smart and was able to conceal them.

The person who killed Liz is not connected to her in a conventional way. The motive they had is known only to them.

 

[Cryptic]

Most criminals are just not that sophisticated. If there is any connection to the victim, LE usually finds it relatively quickly.

The person who killed Liz is not connected to her in a conventional way. The motive they had is known only to them.

I agree with the over all statistics of what you are saying regarding identified connections. At the same time, however, Liz had some characteristics that could buck the statistical trend you stated:

- She was an active member of a very large social group.
- She and her husband apparently had extensive on line lives.

Especially if online is now counted as "conventional" the two facets above can present an awful of connections to go through. Then factor in if Liz was using less common social media platforms in her on line activities.

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

A Tomball, TX resident was arrested in connection with a California murder, with reason to suspect he may have been a hit man. Not a town that comes up frequently in national news, so it made me think of this case.

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[arielilane]

Perhaps shooter vehicle seating in garage undetected somewhere?
Would be better for the shooter than seating in a prison cell on death row?

Speculation, moo

 

[Claudius]

A Tomball, TX resident was arrested in connection with a California murder, with reason to suspect he may have been a hit man. Not a town that comes up frequently in national news, so it made me think of this case.

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Came here to see if anybody posted about this. My ears perked up when I heard this hitman's hometown earlier this week - I wonder if he lived in Tomball at the time of Liz's murder. Tomball had less than 12k residents in 2019. I haven't found what kind of car his accomplices drove yet.

 

[arielilane]

• January 19, 2019 marks 6 years since the brutal cold-blooded execution of Liz Barraza in her own driveway.
• Still waiting for justice for Liz’s loved ones.
• Where is the accountability?
• Someone knows something...
  
  

 

[arielilane]

In the video, we see:
The cowardly shooter shots Liz, and shooter is then seen driving away from the Barraza home…

The shooter drives to the end of the street ... is there a three-point turn made?

What if…
Once the shooter reaches the end of the street, shooter gets out of dark Nissan truck and into a waiting vehicle?
Is there anyone else left in the vehicle?

Furthermore…
Someone else gets into the dark Nissan truck, driving past Liz's [as she is lying on the driveway] house?

Hypothetical. moo.

 

[CrimeTheorist]

The sun rises in Tomball Texas around the same time (around 7:13-7:19 am) from now until the end of January. If anyone lives in the general area maybe they could let us know if they see people standing outside their home around 6:50 am to start a garage sale. I wonder how common it is to start a garage sale that early this time of year? Maybe getting her alone in the dark was part of the plan?

My thoughts only

 

[arielilane]

The sun rises in Tomball Texas around the same time (around 7:13-7:19 am) from now until the end of January. If anyone lives in the general area maybe they could let us know if they see people standing outside their home around 6:50 am to start a garage sale. I wonder how common it is to start a garage sale that early this time of year? Maybe getting her alone in the dark was part of the plan?

My thoughts only

Ive always been curious about why the early morning garage sale. Iirc, the sale was planned for Fri and Sat. Needing money for the trip wasn't really an issue... I do wonder about that, though.

Also, I could think of several other things to do before a trip than prep for a garage sale [but that's just me].
Mostly what I am curious about is did someone talk LB into having the garage sale? If so, who? moo

 

[somequestions]

I re-watched the surveillance tape of the crime again today as I have listened to it and watched it many times. I came up with an opinion about what the killer said to her.

Right after the killer gets out of their truck, Elizabeth Barraza says "Good Morning" in a hi pitched voice. I was only able to make out the first part of what the killer says to Elizabeth Barraza as it appears the killer says three different statements to her.

In my opinion, the first statement the killer says to Elizabeth Barraza as they pull out the gun is, "You were right." I am only able to make out the first statement.

I cannot hear the second and third parts clearly. Loosely speculating about the second part I think what might have been said since it was very short is, "I can" or "I can't", and then finally in the third and last statement it sounds like an expletive is said right before she is shot.

In my opinion, this would suggest to me Elizabeth Barraza had some sort of a previous conversation with this person. But we all have different interpretations about what we hear in the surveillance tape and what we think the killer said to Elizabeth Barraza.