TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #7

[Sjöberg]

I can't get over the fact that the perp took off for the house at exactly the same minute that Sergio leaves the house.

EDIT: Actually, they did not take off for the house, but left the parking lot for "another location?". TBH, I would not trust the seconds and minutes here. You can see the 911 call minutes not adding up with the doorbell camera minutes, for example.

In general, I've been thinking about the "conceal on a different street" - this is vague and probably vague on purpose. I think it is highly likely that this new location provided them with an option to view the house. Probably manually (binoculars or similar), or maybe electronically (closer distance to their devices?) or via a third person (might they have had an accomplice, who was watching the house, that they communicated with?).

I personally think the attacker was waiting for SB to leave (either because it is clearly safer to attack Liz when she is home alone or maybe because SB would have recognized them) and during this waiting the car was positioned at a place that allowed them to discreetly monitor the car leaving from the driveway / turning a corner / passing an intersection or similar. Maybe LE knows where the car was during that time or maybe they only have a hunch but no solid proof, but in any case I feel like looking for this location might actually be the real reason for the night-time pass-by's.

In any case, the night-time pass-by's make me think that the person behind the crime was not local to Tomball. I mean why do it only the night before?

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Great job on the timeline!

I can't get over the fact that the perp took off for the house at exactly the same minute that Sergio leaves the house.

Exactly @sunspun …. And concur with credit to @Sjöberg ….. well done!

And that timing on those two vehicle movements. Looks like a ‘tell’ IMO? Makes one wonder if all phones, electronic, and communication devices are in evidence? And also are there possible vehicle tracking devices that are not yet accounted for? MOO

 

[arielilane]

Video initially posted 1/25/2024. Hoping that this year will be the year of arrest(s). Clearly, the execution of Liz Barraza has devastated her parents, yet, they carry on stronger than ever in the name of justice and unconditional love for their daughter. I wanted to post this video as a show of support for justice for Liz and her loved ones. moo

Who was Liz Barraza? Five years after her murder her parents continue searching for justice​

It's been exactly 5 years since Elizabeth Barraza was killed while setting up for a garage sale outside of her Tomball home. Her parents keep her memory alive during their search for answers.

 

[Kell1]

Did I hear correctly that her husband re-married like 2 years after?

 

[arielilane]

Did I hear correctly that her husband re-married like 2 years after?

Hi, @Kell1, great to see you here and hope you stay around. I value your expertise.

Yes, about two years.

Iirc, SB met AC sometime mid-summer 2020. Not sure date of marriage. Anyone else know?

Widower opens up 4 years after wife was shot to death while setting up for garage sale at Tomball home

Sergio Barraza said he knows a lot of people consider him the prime suspect in her death but says he's done everything he can to help investigators solve the case.

www.khou.com

1/26/2023


Sergio said he and Amber, the woman he married after Liz's death, connected through similar life experiences.

“I found Amber ... it was about a year and a half after Liz passed away. Amber had lost her sister and we just connected," Sergio said. "I didn’t want to give up on life and give up for Liz, too. I know she wouldn’t want me to just stop."

 

[Kell1]

interesting

 

[Charlot123]

EDIT: Actually, they did not take off for the house, but left the parking lot for "another location?". TBH, I would not trust the seconds and minutes here. You can see the 911 call minutes not adding up with the doorbell camera minutes, for example.

In general, I've been thinking about the "conceal on a different street" - this is vague and probably vague on purpose. I think it is highly likely that this new location provided them with an option to view the house. Probably manually (binoculars or similar), or maybe electronically (closer distance to their devices?) or via a third person (might they have had an accomplice, who was watching the house, that they communicated with?).

I personally think the attacker was waiting for SB to leave (either because it is clearly safer to attack Liz when she is home alone or maybe because SB would have recognized them) and during this waiting the car was positioned at a place that allowed them to discreetly monitor the car leaving from the driveway / turning a corner / passing an intersection or similar. Maybe LE knows where the car was during that time or maybe they only have a hunch but no solid proof, but in any case I feel like looking for this location might actually be the real reason for the night-time pass-by's.

In any case, the night-time pass-by's make me think that the person behind the crime was not local to Tomball. I mean why do it only the night before?

My feeling about the Goddard school camera - the perpetrators didn't know that it wasn't working. However, they were able to conceal themselves from Liz' Nest camera, so perhaps they scouted the cameras in the neighborhood and parked in the "blind spot" of Goddard school camera. As it was getting lighter, they moved to a different place that probably had no camera. JMO.

 

[TraxMaster]

Was it actually ever confirmed that her work place "Rosen" was shot at a month prior to Liz's death or was that just an internet rumor?

 

[MysteriousLee]

Was it actually ever confirmed that her work place "Rosen" was shot at a month prior to Liz's death or was that just an internet rumor?

I am pretty sure that was just a rumor, I believe it had happened awhile beforehand (at least a year or so), and there were not shots fired *in* the actual workplace building, it was outside and I believe was a domestic dispute or something that was completely unrelated to Liz or the Rosen group as a whole. Not sure how credible any of that info is, the person that told me this was an independent journalist that was at one time doing research on this case, but I don't know what became of it.

 

[Charlot123]

I am pretty sure that was just a rumor, I believe it had happened awhile beforehand (at least a year or so), and there were not shots fired *in* the actual workplace building, it was outside and I believe was a domestic dispute or something that was completely unrelated to Liz or the Rosen group as a whole. Not sure how credible any of that info is, the person that told me this was an independent journalist that was at one time doing research on this case, but I don't know what became of it.

I have listened to several YouTubers. Everyone said that her level of work at Rosen could not even remotely put her in a situation of knowing any work-related secret. I don’t know what Liz’s job description was, but if everyone feels it was unrelated to her job, it probably is so.
Intuitively, I tend to agree with them.

Another version that I was thinking about. I think someone else might have mentioned it, too.

What is the connection to Goddard school?

- is the fact that the camera was off on that day a random occurrence, or did someone, indeed, know of it?
- was standing next to a school too god of an alibi?
- I looked at a school’s website, it has kids from infants to pre-K.

Now, I am wondering what prompted the policeman who stopped a Nissan, similar to the one involved in the attack on Liz, to let it go.

He said that the Nissan had the reason to be there at that time. For the lack of better knowledge, I assume that he was a random policeman - quite average, mid-range - and acted like most people would.

For me, an immediately relaxing situation would be, seeing two adults (a dad and a mom) with the kid in a car seat in the back.

That’s where the out-of-state numbers might not be suspicious if the story is good, or in general we’d all feel calm. Staying near Goddard school would be normal with a kid, and the chance of being let go if pulled over on the highway is higher.

So I wonder, we have seen the photos of the car with but allegedly (poorly) visible silhouettes of two adults. We assume that two people were there. But could they, at a certain point or through all the time, keep an infant, or better, a sleeping toddler in the car? Infants are less predictable as they cry easily. Some toddlers sleep like a rock. Or maybe the couple would stop somewhere, drop the baby, then pick him up again and drive away.

Can a baby sleep through the shots? Yes, because these people are murderers and can give the baby something. Maybe they “borrowed” the baby.

I honestly think that the Nissan could stay longer than projected in the neighborhood with a toddler in it.

 

[TraxMaster]

I am pretty sure that was just a rumor, I believe it had happened awhile beforehand (at least a year or so), and there were not shots fired *in* the actual workplace building, it was outside and I believe was a domestic dispute or something that was completely unrelated to Liz or the Rosen group as a whole. Not sure how credible any of that info is, the person that told me this was an independent journalist that was at one time doing research on this case, but I don't know what became of it.

Thanks that was what I was thinking too, but wanted confirmation.

 

[Kell1]

So the husband leaves, the shooter shows up at 6:50 am used a revolver so as not to expel any shell casings, and they felt this individual was also in disguise, no other footage in the area of the pickup truck and its never located ?

 

[Curiousobserver]

So the husband leaves, the shooter shows up at 6:50 am used a revolver so as not to expel any shell casings, and they felt this individual was also in disguise, no other footage in the area of the pickup truck and its never located ?

Truck is seen in the neighborhood in the early hours the night before, disappears for a few hours, then reappears shortly before the husband leaves for work. It parks in the school lot, then moves to an adjacent street. Within a few minutes of the husband leaving, the truck drives by the house and turns around to park in the street in front of the house. The driver exits, walks up to Liz, says something and appears to hold out something to show her, shoots her, then runs back to the truck and drives away. Less than 5 min later the truck is seen driving by the home in the opposite direction at a high rate of speed. Police respond within ten minutes of the first shot and a neighbor observes the Truck while on the phone with 911. Police reported they followed the truck for a short distance on cameras and then lost it.

There is a timeline on the website but I don't believe the minutes and seconds line up as precisely as they are presented.

 

[cenazoic]

Truck is seen in the neighborhood in the early hours the night before, disappears for a few hours, then reappears shortly before the husband leaves for work.

What are y’all’s thoughts on where the driver went for those hours? A house, an all-night diner, 24-hr Wal-Mart, etc? Did they stay up all night? Do you think the night driver was the same person as the shooter?

 

[Kell1]

Truck is seen in the neighborhood in the early hours the night before, disappears for a few hours, then reappears shortly before the husband leaves for work. It parks in the school lot, then moves to an adjacent street. Within a few minutes of the husband leaving, the truck drives by the house and turns around to park in the street in front of the house. The driver exits, walks up to Liz, says something and appears to hold out something to show her, shoots her, then runs back to the truck and drives away. Less than 5 min later the truck is seen driving by the home in the opposite direction at a high rate of speed. Police respond within ten minutes of the first shot and a neighbor observes the Truck while on the phone with 911. Police reported they followed the truck for a short distance on cameras and then lost it.

There is a timeline on the website but I don't believe the minutes and seconds line up as precisely as they are presented.

So the shooter was in the area prior to the husband leaving for work, waited nearby but didn't pull up to the house until she was outside correct?

 

[sunspun]

So the shooter was in the area prior to the husband leaving for work, waited nearby but didn't pull up to the house until she was outside correct?

Well, she was outside for a little bit setting up the sale in the yard first. In fact, her husband helped her for a bit, moving out the heavy items like I believe a treadmill. She even ran up to Starbucks and back, so she was gone in her car for about 10 minutes. But as soon as her husband left for work, the shooter arrives within minutes, and I do think that timing is significant, but I don't know how. She was definitely outside in the yard when the shooter arrives and parks close to the house. And their truck was seen on CCTV nearby the house in the short time before it arrives at the house, first parking in that school parking lot for a moment, then parked and waiting in a different location nearby which they haven't specified, I believe just on a street though, not at a business.

ETA I'm sorry, this wasn't really what you asked, was it? I re-read it after I posted, and I think I started answering something different from what you asked ha, sorry.

You asked if truck waited nearby and didn't pull up to house until she was outside, which I suppose is technically correct, but I wouldn't say it like that. Because it wasn't that the shooter waited til she was outside to arrive, it was that the shooter waited until she was outside ALONE, imo. She was outside when shooter pulled up, but I think it's clear that they weren't waiting for her to go outside, but waiting for her to be alone.

 

[Charlot123]

So the shooter was in the area prior to the husband leaving for work, waited nearby but didn't pull up to the house until she was outside correct?

From what I understand, Liz was outside with her husband setting up the table for the sale for at least 30 min. Before, she drove to a Starbucks in the vicinity. She was outside that morning.

 

[Charlot123]

Truck is seen in the neighborhood in the early hours the night before, disappears for a few hours, then reappears shortly before the husband leaves for work. It parks in the school lot, then moves to an adjacent street. Within a few minutes of the husband leaving, the truck drives by the house and turns around to park in the street in front of the house. The driver exits, walks up to Liz, says something and appears to hold out something to show her, shoots her, then runs back to the truck and drives away. Less than 5 min later the truck is seen driving by the home in the opposite direction at a high rate of speed. Police respond within ten minutes of the first shot and a neighbor observes the Truck while on the phone with 911. Police reported they followed the truck for a short distance on cameras and then lost it.

There is a timeline on the website but I don't believe the minutes and seconds line up as precisely as they are presented.

Some policeman pulled over a similar Nissan that morning but let it go because the Nissan “had the reason to be there.” It could have been a different car as well, or maybe the people in it were different.

 

[sunspun]

Some policeman pulled over a similar Nissan that morning but let it go because the Nissan “had the reason to be there.” It could have been a different car as well, or maybe the people in it were different.

Was there any record of that truck's license plate number or any detail about the driver or passengers if any? Is that policeman's name even recorded somewhere?

 

[Kell1]

Im playing catch up so I apologize, and Im assuming neither her or her husband had any known enemies , and their marriage seemed fine