TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #7

[lonewanderer]

I re-watched the surveillance tape of the crime again today as I have listened to it and watched it many times. I came up with an opinion about what the killer said to her.

Right after the killer gets out of their truck, Elizabeth Barraza says "Good Morning" in a hi pitched voice. I was only able to make out the first part of what the killer says to Elizabeth Barraza as it appears the killer says three different statements to her.

In my opinion, the first statement the killer says to Elizabeth Barraza as they pull out the gun is, "You were right." I am only able to make out the first statement.

I cannot hear the second and third parts clearly. Loosely speculating about the second part I think what might have been said since it was very short is, "I can" or "I can't", and then finally in the third and last statement it sounds like an expletive is said right before she is shot.

In my opinion, this would suggest to me Elizabeth Barraza had some sort of a previous conversation with this person. But we all have different interpretations about what we hear in the surveillance tape and what we think the killer said to Elizabeth Barraza.

Honestly, I have heard so many different versions of what people have thought they have heard over the years.

I personally don't hear much of anything, and always found Ring doorbells and the like to pick up lots of noise and static.

 

[Kell1]

The fact the truck drove by again seems to indicate this was not a professional per se' it also might have been to take a picture of the victim for proof as ive seen in another case.

 

[lonewanderer]

The fact the truck drove by again seems to indicate this was not a professional per se' it also might have been to take a picture of the victim for proof as ive seen in another case.

How long ago was this?

I find this to not only be highly unlikely today in 2025, but would also be a major risk for the person arranging the hit. Pics, vids, situations and other things can very easily be faked with convincing pictures.

Personally, if I was asking for the hit, I would want as little as humanly possible tying me back to it, and would prefer to hear about it through and official outlet that was not catering to my evil scheme. Knowing my scheme was evil and wrong, I would not want to be setup by a cop pretending to be a hitman and/or blackmailed or leveraged from asking for the arrangement.

 

[lonewanderer]

You know, though.

Speaking of pics for proof, I have wondered before if it was possible that someone knew about or had access to the CCTV footage of Liz's death. The footage has always struck me as a little too perfect in frame, and I can't help but think someone could have been watching it or knowing it existed to look at it later.

 

[Kittybunny]

From @arielilane post summarizing the theories, this is my personal theory. While I don’t think Sergio ordered it, I think he knew or at least strongly suspected, but would never directly dare to turn his father in, but is strongly suggesting to LE the direction they should look. Or he did it, and is deflecting. I mean, who suggests their own father as a suspect in his wife’s murder?

“Although Sergio was the first to suggest that the murder was connected to the 501st Legion, in more recent interviews he has not accused anyone in 501st and instead accused his father.

SERGIO BARRAZA’S DAD

Sergio suggested his dad killed Liz or had her killed. Liz had recently complained to Sergio’s father that one of Sergio’s paychecks bounced. Sergio’s dad was allegedly suffering financial difficulties, possibly related to multiple affairs he was having. Sergio theorized his dad learned of the insurance policy on Liz’s life and decided to murder Liz to put Sergio in a financial position to assist dad with his financial woes, with the added benefit that Liz would no longer complain about his hot checks.”

Did Liz also threaten to expose his dad’s affairs and mistresses to Sergio’s mom, or am I misremembering?

 

[Charlot123]

Honestly, I have heard so many different versions of what people have thought they have heard over the years.

I personally don't hear much of anything, and always found Ring doorbells and the like to pick up lots of noise and static.

It was Nest but I agree with you. I hear nothing of relevance.
However, LB’s parents say that they do hear their daughter say, “Sure.” “We are the “sure” people”, explains her father. So perhaps they could confirm parts of the deciphered decording? I won’t rely too much on what they don’t hear.

 

[Pyrite]

I honestly think the shooter had access to their Ring camera.

I believe the information for logging into the Ring was provided to the shooter by someone who knew Liz and Sergio well, or the shooter knew them very well already.

I honestly doubt the shooter had access to the ring (or nest) camera If they did why not shut the motion section down before the shooting so it would not be caught on camera?

 

[lonewanderer]

I honestly doubt the shooter had access to the ring (or nest) camera If they did why not shut the motion section down before the shooting so it would not be caught on camera?

I think it’s possible the shooter was looking at the footage as she walked up to Liz and knew Liz would not be in the Ring camera line of sight.

 

[Andreee]

It was Nest but I agree with you. I hear nothing of relevance.
However, LB’s parents say that they do hear their daughter say, “Sure.” “We are the “sure” people”, explains her father. So perhaps they could confirm parts of the deciphered decording? I won’t rely too much on what they don’t hear.

What do you mean you won't rely on what they don't hear?

 

[Kell1]

How long ago was this?

I find this to not only be highly unlikely today in 2025, but would also be a major risk for the person arranging the hit. Pics, vids, situations and other things can very easily be faked with convincing pictures.

Personally, if I was asking for the hit, I would want as little as humanly possible tying me back to it, and would prefer to hear about it through and official outlet that was not catering to my evil scheme. Knowing my scheme was evil and wrong, I would not want to be setup by a cop pretending to be a hitman and/or blackmailed or leveraged from asking for the arrangement.

Few years ago but it was a gang related shooting here on the east coast , the shooters actually ran back to the scene to get pictures of the victim laying there

Ive also personally worked a case, where the killer recorded him shooting and killing a pregnant woman on his phone .... so yeah it does happen, you're not dealing with Harvard grads in these cases usually

And if they were willing to risk being seen driving past the scene again, they may have wanted to be able to show whomever sanctioned it proof

 

[skoogmagoo]

Please continue the discussion here.

Who stands around at the fresh murder scene of their wife with their hands in their pockets? So casual.

 

[Charlot123]

What do you mean you won't rely on what they don't hear?

If the parents confirm that they hear, Hi, I’d believe them. If they confirm they hear, “sure”, I’d believe it. If they say they hear something else, I’d believe them (I never heard any other specific statements, though). But unless the parents confirm, “oh yes, it sounds like she says …”, I won’t take any statement of any YouTuber, nor anyone else, as something reliable.

 

[somequestions]

I honestly think the shooter had access to their Ring camera.

I believe the information for logging into the Ring was provided to the shooter by someone who knew Liz and Sergio well, or the shooter knew them very well already.

I do not know if the killer had access to the Nest doorbell camera, but when you take the garage sale out of the story, it makes me wonder if the killer knew where to stand so as not to be seen by it.

If there is no garage sale and the killer was going to murder Elizabeth Barraza after Sergio left for work, the only difference is that person would have to go up and ring the doorbell or knock on the door. Elizabeth opens the door and the same sequence of events takes place. The only difference is that the Nest camera would have gotten a clear picture of the murderer's face or of their costume.

Whether or not the murderer knew about the Nest doorbell camera is one of the lasting questions about this case.

 

[somequestions]

Honestly, I have heard so many different versions of what people have thought they have heard over the years.

I personally don't hear much of anything, and always found Ring doorbells and the like to pick up lots of noise and static.

I agree with you. My post is only speculation as there is a lot of background noise. It has been reported Elizabeth Barraza had a media device playing outside which might explain a lot of the background noise that you can clearly hear even before the murderer pulls up in the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X truck.

I cannot think of a time where I heard Elizabeth Barraza's voice outside of the Nest camera audio and video. It seems to me like she has a high-pitched voice and said "Good Morning" right as the murderer came around the front of the truck and passed in front of the headlights walking towards Elizabeth.

My opinion is that I think the first words the murderer says to her is "You're right" or "You are right". Anything after that is too difficult for me to hear. If there were some other videos that have audio of Elizabeth Barraza's voice, then maybe we could try to make a determination about whether or not she even says "Good Morning". This is all my opinion.

 

[somequestions]

The fact the truck drove by again seems to indicate this was not a professional per se' it also might have been to take a picture of the victim for proof as ive seen in another case.

I cannot understand why the murderer drove away only to come back driving the opposite direction? My opinion is that since the truck does not appear to slow down, they wanted to make sure Elizabeth Barraza was still lying on the ground.

What is interesting is that Elizabeth Barraza did not die from her injuries right away. She was critically injured, but not dead. A LifeFlight helicopter came to transport her to the hospital on January 25th. She only died the next day. She was an organ donor and saved other people's lives with her gesture.

It is probably too late now to remember, but I wonder if anyone asked Sergio about his wife's condition or seemed very interested in Elizabeth Barraza's condition at the hospital? At the time it might have seemed like the person was being thoughtful.

The interesting part is that after the murderer first left the Barraza house they made it back to Kuykendahl Road, but then turned around to go past the Barraza house again(I think to make sure Elizabeth was still lying on the ground). This is confirmed by the Nest doorbell camera. After this point the killer drives down Cedar Walk to Sandusky and drives all the way down Sandusky. At the last intersection at Sandusky and Brogan Court a house also had a surveillance camera and it shows the Nissan Frontier Pro-4X passing at that intersection, but after that point Sandusky ends at a dead end cul-de-sac. Yet the surveillance camera never shows the truck come back so it is theorized the truck drove into the grass at the end of Sandusky to get back to Kuykendahl Road. So coming back to go past the Barraza house again appears to have really confused the driver as to how to get out of the subdivision even though I would have thought they scouted the area at around 2 am. It is strange.

Source for this information about surveillance camera is youtuber Arin Stoner videos about Elizabeth Barraza case. Alex Lewis, otherwise known as Welsch Chappie, gave Arin Stoner the surveillance video from the homeowner at the corner of Brogan Court and Sandusky Drive. The surveillance footage is at 9:40 in the video below. I still think the way the killer left the subdivision is very strange, but it points to someone who does not live in the area due to the lack of street knowledge.

 

[Kell1]

I cannot understand why the murderer drove away only to come back driving the opposite direction? My opinion is that since the truck does not appear to slow down, they wanted to make sure Elizabeth Barraza was still lying on the ground.

IMO because they were unsure whether or not she was dead. There have been cases, where killers have driven by the scene to see if the victim died (EX Coroners vehicles outside) , but I know of one personally where the shooter ran back to the scene to take pictures of the victim dead on the ground, so they could show their friends, or whomever ordered the killing.

This tends to indicate a shooter who hasn't done this before.

 

[sunspun]

Yet the surveillance camera never shows the truck come back so it is theorized the truck drove into the grass at the end of Sandusky to get back to Kuykendahl Road. So coming back to go past the Barraza house again appears to have really confused the driver as to how to get out of the subdivision even though I would have thought they scouted the area at around 2 am. It is strange.

By "drove into the grass", do you think they went across someone's front yard? Or is there a vacant lot there or something? Never completely understood that. But I've always thought that the shooter was so flustered after having shot her, that they got confused or turned around/lost as they sped away from the house, but they knew they just had to get that truck completely away from the area ASAP, so instead of pausing for even the short time it would probably have taken them to remember their pre-planned exit route that they had scouted out several hours earlier, they just decided to zoom right back past her house again, because they knew exactly where to go from there.

But when they drove TO the house on the way to shoot her, they came from that end of the street and had to turn around to park, so when they're driving back past it again afterwards, they're not going out the way they came in, so they come to the end of the cul-de-sac and just made a split second decision to get out across the grass, all in their desperate frantic hurry to get OUT of the area now. It had only been a couple minutes, but I bet to them, it felt like forever, and they knew how short a time they had. Turns out they probably had even less time than they thought, because LE was on the scene VERY fast, like in 4 min I think.

I have never thought they were going back by to see if she was dead, because it was too fast to take a pic or even to see much of anything as they zoomed by, not to mention the fact that they had just shot her multiple times point blank, the last shot being right in the face, so if there was any chance she would survive, it would only be in the hospital after life-saving care and surgeries, so there was no chance they would be able to "confirm she was dead" simply by speeding back by. She wasn't going to be standing up or moving around after that, so dead or barely alive, all they would see, if anything, was her lying still on the ground, just as they left her.

No, I really suspect they ended up driving right back past her house by ACCIDENT, just frantically got mixed up, lost their bearings, and totally freaked out when they realized where they were and just seized the chance to jump the curb and escape that way. They were right to be worried, cuz any later and they'd have been too late.

 

[CrimeTheorist]

I tend to think they went the wrong way intentionally either because they felt it was safer to turn around in a certain place without their license plate showing up on camera or because they were hoping that any 911 calls would point the police in the wrong direction.

If they did drive out through the dead end than I believe they must have known the neighbourhood pretty well. Even if you searched it on google maps you really wouldn't know if you could drive it back to a road easily unless you've either already drove it or at least walked it. I highly doubt they just got lucky when they went down a dead end to get away, if that's what they did.

 

[kemo]

The shooter drove to Liz’s home on west on Cedar Walk then made a u-turn so that the truck was facing East. His plan was to exit the neighborhood in that direction. After the shooting, the truck drove east to Princeton where, at some point they made another u-turn and returned to Cedar Walk driving west past the crime scene to Sandusky where they turned left and continued south. They proceeded on Sandusky until they reached the cul de sac where they drove across undeveloped land along the drainage ditch a short distance to Kuykendahl. That is crazy; it makes no sense unless the shooter just panicked. Was he familiar with the ditch area and knew that he could drive through it or was it just a desperate risk to avoid going back? I’m inclined to believe that he was familiar with the area and knew that the cul de sac on Sandusky was an alternate route out of the neighborhood. The only thing I can infer is that, as hitmen go, this guy was no Sammy the Bull. He did not plan his escape route and made his decisions “on the fly”. Yet he hasn’t gotten caught.

 

[Curiousobserver]

MOO they turned around because when they approached the corner to leave the Cul-De Sac they saw or heard the police coming. They may have also had a scanner in the car. They didn't want to be on someone's dash-cam or be stopped.

They were to me very definitely evading the incoming law enforcement and first responders.