TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #7

  • #461
IMO the vehicle is the biggest lead here. I haven't followed this case from beginning to now so my apologies if this has been discussed, but please tell me that LE has investigated any/all Nissan Frontier 4x4s in the general area in these 5 years. Start with Tomball, branch out. Who had one registered, who had rented one. The list can't be THAT DAMN BIG to not have gotten thru in 5 damn years! With computers and databases these days, it can't be that damn hard. I'm truly surprised there hasn't seemed to be any real leads from the vehicle.

Any thoughts here from those who have followed this case from the beginning? Any reason/theories as to why the Nissan ON CAMERA didn't produce any suspects?
We do not know what LE knows so maybe any credible leads on the Nissan Frontier Pro-4x trucks were checked out already? The Nissan Frontier Pro-4x may have been rented, but I think LE would have checked that out.

Maybe if the murderer owned the Nissan Frontier Pro-4x, they got rid of it long ago or moved it far away from the Tomball, Texas area? Arin Stoner's information video said it was a 2013 - 2018 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x that had the roof rack missing.

But maybe information still ties a name to the vehicle? For example, recall information needs to be sent out, even if the original owner changed their address. Maybe the recall list produces a name or it is narrowed down by people that did not have the recall work done?

Or LE ends up talking to a bunch of people who had Nissan Frontier Pro-4x recall work done who had nothing to do with the case. That list would be something I would want to check out.
 
  • #462
In regards to the garage sale signs and when they were put out, early on SB claimed the signs were put out the morning of the garage sale and later changed it to the evening before. The whokilledlizbarraza.com/timeline states the signs were put out the night before, so which is it? Only one person can confirm that information.

Regarding the truck, there were other opportunities to carry out the murder, like when EB went to Starbucks that morning. They had to have knowledge that she would be outside for the garage sale that morning OR that Sergio would be gone for work and she would be alone, so aware of their schedules. They knew WHEN to be there. All my opinion, of course!

Start around 22:15 for garage sale info
 
  • #463
I feel like it’s possible the Starbucks run is a red herring or possibly irrelevant. We don’t know where the Nissan Frontier was at that time. It’s possible the shooter was even dozing off, quick Power Nap, and not aware that she went to Starbucks.
 
  • #464
I think whoever it was that murdered Elizabeth Barraza probably lived within a 20-minute radius of their home. The Nissan Frontier Pro-4x truck being used suggests it was someone from outside their subdivision. I think the Nissan Frontier Pro-4x truck was no more than 20 minutes away from the Barraza home. This is because I do not think the murderer would do surveillance at 2 am in the morning if they or their truck were far away.

Why did the murderer surveil the neighborhood in the Nissan Frontier Pro-4x truck at 2 am, nearly 5 hours before the murder?

Was the Barraza's address listed in the phone book, or could it easily be found on the internet?

Maybe someday more information will be released that will help us understand the facts and timeline of this confusing murder case.
 
  • #465
Could she have had some words with a nasty hot head moron when she was out putting up signs the day before, maybe one who rolled his window down and made rude suggestive comments and she put him in his place? The little bit we can see of his approach to her gives me those vibes. I can see an injustice collector feeling insulted and brooding all night as he cased her neighborhood just waiting for the garage door to go up. I just can't figure out why le hasnt identified this distinctive vehicle with all the surveillance available.
 
  • #466
I have watched the video of the actual murder many times to see if I can see anything useful.

What I saw looking at the video over and over in the same sequence is it looks like the murderer pulls the gun out and Elizabeth Barraza takes a step back. But the murderer may not have given her anything like is theorized. I see something else.

What I see is Elizabeth Barraza raising her arms like she is very nervous and undecided as to what to do with this person pointing a gun at her. I think that would probably be the reaction of a lot of people. At the end she does raise her arms up higher but closer to her body. At that moment the murderer shoots and when she falls, it is palms up and out with elbows bent.

This is why I wonder if the murderer actually gave Elizabeth Barraza anything before the murder. Somebody with their hands up is going to have a tough time being able to take anything given to them. Whether or not the murderer gave anything or showed anything to Elizabeth Barraza before the murder is one of those questions that remains unanswered.
 
  • #467
Could she have had some words with a nasty hot head moron when she was out putting up signs the day before, maybe one who rolled his window down and made rude suggestive comments and she put him in his place? The little bit we can see of his approach to her gives me those vibes. I can see an injustice collector feeling insulted and brooding all night as he cased her neighborhood just waiting for the garage door to go up. I just can't figure out why le hasnt identified this distinctive vehicle with all the surveillance available.

I got a new idea.

Was Liz a person who'd leave reviews in restaurants or other service places? Books or Etsy stores?

There are many places that will ask you to. I usually won't either way, but some people take it seriously.

I know that some shops are almost doomed by their nature; deliveries are questionable, too (if items are missing, is it on the cafe or the driver, for example? Did the driver drink my hot chocolate or forgot to pick it up?)

Yet these situations can generate rage. More than road rage, because the reviews stay for a while.

In short, if Liz made costumes, she bought items somewhere. If she and Sergio traveled, they went out to eat. She appears careful with money, but obviously went to Starbucks (not worthy IMHO but I am very serious about coffee). Maybe she ordered food into the office and the quality or service were bad?

A bad review or what people would consider "unfairness" might be the reason for it.
 
  • #468
@HCSOTexas

Join us in remembering Elizabeth "Liz" Barraza.

On January 30th at 10:00 AM, Precinct 3 Commissioner Tom Ramsey's Office, in partnership with @CrimeStopHOU and Liz's family, will dedicate the We Remember Memorial Bench in her honor at Burroughs Park (9738 Hufsmith Rd, Tomball)

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  • #469
This case seems so very….COLD.
 
  • #470
There may be a disconnect between the gender and the voice.
Electronic voice changer?

Other thoughts: that's a fancy truck. Someone had some serious money to buy it - some have suggested that it may have been "borrowed" from someone. But if it was taken across state lines, it's hard to say where it might have come from or went to. It's the kind of truck that car guys who "whoa, look at that thing" and pay attention to it. Not your usual truck a hired killer drives because it sticks out like a sore thumb.

I keep going back and forth between someone who was in the 501st who got upset by a command decision Liz made OR it's someone who did this to hurt Sergio because by taking Liz out he'd be "taken down a peg". I just don't know. Let's hope 2025 is the year this gets solved.

Arrin Stoner's video covers a lot of ground.

Does ANYONE have software that can do AI upscaling of that security camera video? I've seen some packages do downright amazing things. The audio sadly suffers from the same low bitrate codec that my own ring doorbell has.
If they'd had the recent Wyze cams the audio is so much better. Not sure there's a way to clarify the audio from that footage either.
 
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  • #471
I got a new idea.

Was Liz a person who'd leave reviews in restaurants or other service places? Books or Etsy stores?

There are many places that will ask you to. I usually won't either way, but some people take it seriously.

I know that some shops are almost doomed by their nature; deliveries are questionable, too (if items are missing, is it on the cafe or the driver, for example? Did the driver drink my hot chocolate or forgot to pick it up?)

Yet these situations can generate rage. More than road rage, because the reviews stay for a while.

In short, if Liz made costumes, she bought items somewhere. If she and Sergio traveled, they went out to eat. She appears careful with money, but obviously went to Starbucks (not worthy IMHO but I am very serious about coffee). Maybe she ordered food into the office and the quality or service were bad?

A bad review or what people would consider "unfairness" might be the reason for it.
If the killer showed something to Liz or asked her something and she only answered "Sure!" to it, it can't have been especially detailed. I want to say: the killer didn't tell a whole story, where/when/in which situation Liz could have been sometime before and what she did and for what she now would have to die. MOO
 
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  • #472
I just finished an episode of True Crime Garage on this case. I was wondering if anyone checked the Starbucks video footage for the vehicle the shooter drove? Could it be a case of rage, maybe they came from Starbucks, maybe cut off in line etc? They mentioned the shooter wearing possibly a robe which I know I’ve wore crazy stuff through the Starbucks drive through. Probably very silly but I thought I’d ask.
 
  • #473
I just finished an episode of True Crime Garage on this case. I was wondering if anyone checked the Starbucks video footage for the vehicle the shooter drove? Could it be a case of rage, maybe they came from Starbucks, maybe cut off in line etc? They mentioned the shooter wearing possibly a robe which I know I’ve wore crazy stuff through the Starbucks drive through. Probably very silly but I thought I’d ask.
Not a bad thought, but apparently the same truck passed by Liz’s house several hours earlier, in the middle of the night. IIRC there’s good reason to believe this was indeed the shooter’s truck, and not just another similar-looking one. Unless this was a coincidence, it probably rules out the “road rage”-type theories.
 
  • #474
Not a bad thought, but apparently the same truck passed by Liz’s house several hours earlier, in the middle of the night. IIRC there’s good reason to believe this was indeed the shooter’s truck, and not just another similar-looking one. Unless this was a coincidence, it probably rules out the “road rage”-type theories.
Well, unless, of course, the hypothetical road rage-inducing incident happened on a different day? The driver of the truck didn't have time to deal with her that other morning, so they went home and stewed over it, then made a plan for revenge. Starting with surveilling her neighborhood in the wee hours of the night and finishing with the fatal shots. So they just got lucky finding her outside her house that morning.

Nope, doesn't seem plausible to me. I feel certain that they knew she'd be out front setting up the sale on that particular morning. As well as what time Sergio would leave for work.

But I admit it's still possible. Just hard for me to accept that coincidence.
 
  • #475
Well, unless, of course, the hypothetical road rage-inducing incident happened on a different day? The driver of the truck didn't have time to deal with her that other morning, so they went home and stewed over it, then made a plan for revenge. Starting with surveilling her neighborhood in the wee hours of the night and finishing with the fatal shots. So they just got lucky finding her outside her house that morning.

Nope, doesn't seem plausible to me. I feel certain that they knew she'd be out front setting up the sale on that particular morning. As well as what time Sergio would leave for work.

But I admit it's still possible. Just hard for me to accept that coincidence.
Oh I thought she went to Starbucks around 6:30 am before the garage sale? That is what was said on the podcast.
 
  • #476
Oh I thought she went to Starbucks around 6:30 am before the garage sale? That is what was said on the podcast.

Correct. But someone had footage of the truck prowling that neighborhood at 2:30 in the morning. This shows that this was much more methodically planned than it originally seems.
 
  • #477
I suddenly saw on Temu caps with attached wigs, berets with attached wigs, etc etc.

I am thinking that the person looks like a woman to me because the figure is comparable to that of Liz and there is long hair on the back. But the hair could be the wig attached to the cap and maybe, pulled in a ponytail (something is off about the hair). Anyhow, I took some photos off Temu, they have versions. This is easier; you can pull it under the cap later. I just never saw them.

ETA: you don’t need to download an app. It is all on their site, too. Just an idea.
 

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  • #478
This case seems so very….COLD.
What is sort of amazing is that with all the surveillance video in this case, no one was able to track down the Nissan Frontier Pro-4x truck involved in the crime.

I can only speculate. I cannot tell if it is a man or woman who committed the crime. I have thought maybe it was one of Sergio's father's mistresses who did not like Elizabeth Barraza getting in the way of money, but by now I think that angle would have been checked out.

There was some planning that went into this crime, but not a whole lot. What if there was not a garage sale that day? Would that have changed the course of the murder and how it occurred?

The Nissan Frontier Pro-4x driving back past the Barraza house after the crime is also perplexing. Even if somehow Elizabeth had been able to struggle to get up in the minute or so after the shooting, was the killer really going to park the truck on the side of the road or do another three point turn to turn the truck around to park in the same place? Were they going to get out to shoot her again? They are driving way too fast to take any pictures. Did the murderer even bring their phone with them?

I do not think it is a hitman, but I do not know. I think of a hitman as someone wearing a suit and sunglasses with a silencer gun because of tv. Maybe the timing has something to do with the murder? The sun was just coming up that morning. Sometimes people have trouble with their eyes so they keep sunglasses in the car, for both the sunrise and sunset, if they had to drive during those times because the glaring light would really affect their sight.

Maybe someday police will release more information to the public and there will be answers in this case.
 
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  • #479
What is sort of amazing is that with all the surveillance video in this case, no one was able to track down the Nissan Frontier Pro-4x truck involved in the crime.

I can only speculate. I cannot tell if it is a man or woman who committed the crime. I have thought maybe it was one of Sergio's father's mistresses who did not like Elizabeth Barraza getting in the way of money, but by now I think that angle would have been checked out.

There was some planning that went into this crime, but not a whole lot. What if there was not a garage sale that day? Would that have changed the course of the murder and how it occurred?

The Nissan Frontier Pro-4x driving back past the Barraza house after the crime is also perplexing. Even if somehow Elizabeth had been able to struggle to get up in the minute or so after the shooting, was the killer really going to park the truck on the side of the road or do another three point turn to turn the truck around to park in the same place? Were they going to get out to shoot her again? They are driving way too fast to take any pictures. Did the murderer even bring their phone with them?

I do not think it is a hitman, but I do not know. I think of a hitman as someone wearing a suit and sunglasses with a silencer gun because of tv. Maybe the timing has something to do with the murder? The sun was just coming up that morning. A family member of mine had trouble with their eyes so they would keep sunglasses in the car, for both the sunrise and sunset, if they had to drive during those times because the glaring light would really affect their sight.

Maybe someday police will release more information to the public and there will be answers in this case.

I personally think that we don’t know much about how the garage sale was organized. The police definitely does.

It could have been a PTO day taken for a different purpose, but that original purpose could have been moved. (Why am I thinking, a doctor’s or a dental appointment?) So, “since I took a PTO, I can do a garage sale” plan. It could have been not the last moment sale but a decision made several days prior, when the initial plan was moved.

Now, there is some information about the father planning to be with Liz and then his plans changing. Mother said in the interview that she was not an early riser, but planned to join Liz at 10 or 11 am.

Question is, why not start the sale at 11 AM then?

The way I can imagine it being resolved is Sergio planning to stay with Liz in the morning in the time gap till mom would come. And it seemingly starts that way. Liz drives to Starbucks, they start setting up the table, no one is in a morning rush! And then Sergio leaves. We don’t see it on camera. This is the moment when, honestly, something feels amiss.

Staying alone in the morning in the darkness outside doesn’t feel comfortable. I am trying to put myself into the shoes of Liz and the word “alone” feels wrong.

So maybe one day we’ll know more. When did Liz talk to the parents, who/when enabled the alarm in the morning, at what time? What did Liz say to her parents about that block of time when she was to be alone?

I can very well imagine dad saying, “I have a phone interview scheduled in the morning”, or “the recruiter promised to call within this time slot.” Because this is a typical human behavior. But usually, the daughter’s response would be to ask the husband, hey, can you start the sale with me till mom comes?

Am I missing something?
 
  • #480
If the killer showed something to Liz or asked her something and she only answered "Sure!" to it, it can't have been especially detailed. I want to say: the killer didn't tell a whole story, where/when/in which situation Liz could have been sometime before and what she did and for what she now would have to die. MOO

I think their conversation was about the sale. Whatever the killer hinted at was on that piece of paper and it could be a phrase that is not informative to anyone but makes sense to Liz. I agree, a standard review phrase won’t be remembered by Liz. It was a hint that Liz would recognize but no one else can see anything unusual in it.
 

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