TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #7

[Charlot123]

Especially because we know the shooter parked in the school lot for such a short time. And then abruptly left it. And I do mean short, may have even been a matter of seconds! I forget exactly how long, but what stood out to me was that they left almost exactly when Sergio left home, DESPITE having JUST arrived there! So basically they pulled in to the parking lot... and then left the parking lot. I don't know if they would even have had time to park in a spot.

Some have suggested they may have pulled in, but immediately realized it was not a good place to sit and wait inconspicuously, like maybe they saw there were cameras (not working, but they wouldn't have known that), or maybe the lot was already filling up with parents and students etc, or some other reason. I agree this could explain why they left so soon, and then it would be simply a coincidence that the time coincided so closely with Sergio's departure time... yes, that's possible. But I really don't think so.

I still find it suspicious.

Do we know if Sergio was known to always leave for work at exactly the same time every day or did the time vary at all?

Call me a fantasizer, but how easy is it to synchronize two iPhones? Or is it easier to synchronize a camera with one?

 

[Cryptic]

It was pre-dawn outside. I do not know much about setting up for a garage sale, but who thinks someone is going to be setting up so early or even want to attend a garage sale before 7am?

Pro and part time "pickers" with resale intentions will be out and about before 0700 to pounce on certain sales as they open.

"The early bird gets the worm" concept is alive and well regarding the need to beat the competition to select sales- or to sales in general for high income areas.

 

[lonewanderer]

Call me a fantasizer, but how easy is it to synchronize two iPhones? Or is it easier to synchronize a camera with one?

Super, super easy.

Basically the same device on iPad and iPhone when logged into the same ICloud (depending on how often it was synced to the cloud etc).

I think the killer had access to the Ring doorbell.

 

[Charlot123]

MOO: Father's mistress (one of them, if several) and hit-man. Makes sense to me .....

This is a quite possible theory. Has anyone considered the possibility of Sergio’s dad being in Sergio’s car that morning? Did anyone see the image of Sergio’s car on a street camera? Was there one or two people there?

I think the assailants parked at the school for the same reason that I yesterday parked across the street at the specialist’s office. Simply, it was too taxing to park at that office and across the street there was a parking lot, so, it was easy.

I somehow can't shake the feeling that either it was a new car for the driver or the driver was not too good. Inexperienced?

Super, super easy.

Basically the same device on iPad and iPhone when logged into the same ICloud (depending on how often it was synced to the cloud etc).

I think the killer had access to the Ring doorbell.

So basically, they need to have access to the person's icloud? They don't need Liz's one, knowing Sergio's password would be enough, right?

It would be interesting to know what carrier they used. Sergio worked for dad's business. His cellphone could have been registered via that business, too. Then everything becomes much, much easier.

 

[FromGermany1]

This is a quite possible theory. Has anyone considered the possibility of Sergio’s dad being in Sergio’s car that morning? Did anyone see the image of Sergio’s car on a street camera? Was there one or two people there?

I think the assailants parked at the school for the same reason that I yesterday parked across the street at the specialist’s office. Simply, it was too taxing to park at that office and across the street there was a parking lot, so, it was easy.

I somehow can't shake the feeling that either it was a new car for the driver or the driver was not too good. Inexperienced?



So basically, they need to have access to the person's icloud? They don't need Liz's one, knowing Sergio's password would be enough, right?

It would be interesting to know what carrier they used. Sergio worked for dad's business. His cellphone could have been registered via that business, too. Then everything becomes much, much easier.

Apropos "new car or not good at driving":
When I once as a young girl drove with an unknown car (NOT stolen!) without license (idiotic idea, but still funny in memory) and I wasn't able to turn the car on the street for my return route, I had to drive around on some streets in a square to reach the right street again in the right position for arriving back at the start point (my job place). Can you imagine? Can't explain better. What, if the driver in this case also wasn't able to turn the car on the street and used the school parking lot for driving in a circle, then out of it in the right position for the location at Liz? Possible?

 

[Centaurus]

Apropos "new car or not good at driving":
When I once as a young girl drove with an unknown car (NOT stolen!) without license (idiotic idea, but still funny in memory) and I wasn't able to turn the car on the street for my return route, I had to drive around on some streets in a square to reach the right street again in the right position for arriving back at the start point (my job place). Can you imagine? Can't explain better. What, if the driver in this case also wasn't able to turn the car on the street and used the school parking lot for driving in a circle, then out of it in the right position for the location at Liz? Possible?

I'm thinking the truck could have been a manual and not too many younger people can drive them anymore.

 

[lisette]

If I were going to commit a murder, I definitely would make sure if the vehicle I was to use was manual or not… that would make a huge difference if you were not used to driving one

 

[Charlot123]

Apropos "new car or not good at driving":
When I once as a young girl drove with an unknown car (NOT stolen!) without license (idiotic idea, but still funny in memory) and I wasn't able to turn the car on the street for my return route, I had to drive around on some streets in a square to reach the right street again in the right position for arriving back at the start point (my job place). Can you imagine? Can't explain better. What, if the driver in this case also wasn't able to turn the car on the street and used the school parking lot for driving in a circle, then out of it in the right position for the location at Liz? Possible?

100% understood. Very possible. In my case, it is something about not feeling the sides of a large car too well; so either an SUV with an elevated seat or a compact car would be OK. If the seat is too low, the situation worsens. I would imagine having a problem if I suddenly need to drive a wider car; or, if it were manual instead of automatic or simply “not my car and I am driving it for the first time”. Poorly known area doesn’t help either. I think they had to pass back by the CS because the driver was not good. Whether it was not their car or they were a poor driver, hard to tell. There is some mismatch between the driver and the car, JMO.

 

[FromGermany1]

This is a quite possible theory. Has anyone considered the possibility of Sergio’s dad being in Sergio’s car that morning? Did anyone see the image of Sergio’s car on a street camera? Was there one or two people there?

Bbbbut the car started at Liz' location, and there Liz was present. How should a different driver than Sergio being in Sergio's car from the start point at the Barrazza's adress?

 

[Charlot123]

Bbbbut the car started at Liz' location, and there Liz was present. How should a different driver than Sergio being in Sergio's car from the start point at the Barrazza's adress?

He could be sitting in the passenger seat. I assume that mentally, for the person who organized it, Liz was out of the equation and not a potential witness in the future. Main thing, I thought that maybe the car was not parked directly in front of the house, but this is what I don’t remember. Did I see Sergio’s car moving away from the house via a nest camera, or not? I saw bits and pieces of that video captured via a nest camera, and don’t remember if Sergio’s car was there. I saw Liz on that video, and the assailants’ car driving back past the CS was on that video, too. But I don’t remember if Sergio’s car was captured by it, or not? Would you remember? It is an old case, so I may not remember all the details. But either way, Sergio and Liz were walking around the house setting up the sale that morning, so she’d probably notice her FIL sitting in the car. On the other hand, the assailant planned that Liz would not be able to say anything, so whether she saw the FIL or not, did not matter.

 

[lonewanderer]

In addition to KA, there is Sheila Warren (dressed as a clown to surprise shoot her love rival at her home) and Stephanie Lazuras (also shot her love rival at her home). All three of these shootings were woman on woman, at the victims current place they were staying.

Now that I think about it, Lazarus was a cop when she shot the other woman. It went unsolved for a very, very long time.

I have wondered if Liz’s shooter could have been in LE. There’s quite a few weird things about how Sergio was interviewed and the way the police falsely took down information and relayed it.

The gun is debatable if the person using it was an expert or novice.

 

[lonewanderer]

If I were going to commit a murder, I definitely would make sure if the vehicle I was to use was manual or not… that would make a huge difference if you were not used to driving one

I think its a strong possibility the driver/shooter simply wasn't used to the car. When I drove my wife's old car, the dial in the middle of the dash always tripped me up.

I believe the shooter is female (possibly a specific one and I have good reason to believe that but do not have solid proof it was her). Anyways, if the car was "borrowed" I imagine it to be a very manipulative woman who either nagged, threatened, bullied, or straight up took the car while a visiting relative/boyfriend/out of town visitor was sleeping. If she was brazen enough to shoot another woman point blank, I can only imagine how she treats people to get her way.

 

[Charlot123]

I think its a strong possibility the driver/shooter simply wasn't used to the car. When I drove my wife's old car, the dial in the middle of the dash always tripped me up.

I believe the shooter is female (possibly a specific one and I have good reason to believe that but do not have solid proof it was her). Anyways, if the car was "borrowed" I imagine it to be a very manipulative woman who either nagged, threatened, bullied, or straight up took the car while a visiting relative/boyfriend/out of town visitor was sleeping. If she was brazen enough to shoot another woman point blank, I can only imagine how she treats people to get her way.

I sometimes wonder if a dad's GF later planned to "accidentally get acquainted" to the son, you know?

 

[lonewanderer]

I sometimes wonder if a dad's GF later planned to "accidentally get acquainted" to the son, you know?

I think this woman was in on something that slightly involved Sergio. I think Liz had planned to turn her in or the woman suspected Liz was going to turn her in.

I think Sergio named her and then quickly took it back after realizing mutually ensured destruction.

 

[Ladyotm]

I think this woman was in on something that slightly involved Sergio. I think Liz had planned to turn her in or the woman suspected Liz was going to turn her in.

I think Sergio named her and then quickly took it back after realizing mutually ensured destruction.

Interesting theory!!

 

[lonewanderer]

Is there a detailed list of the items at Liz’s yard sale?

I am particularly interested in knowing about a specific one.

 

[sunspun]

He could be sitting in the passenger seat. I assume that mentally, for the person who organized it, Liz was out of the equation and not a potential witness in the future. Main thing, I thought that maybe the car was not parked directly in front of the house, but this is what I don’t remember. Did I see Sergio’s car moving away from the house via a nest camera, or not? I saw bits and pieces of that video captured via a nest camera, and don’t remember if Sergio’s car was there. I saw Liz on that video, and the assailants’ car driving back past the CS was on that video, too. But I don’t remember if Sergio’s car was captured by it, or not? Would you remember? It is an old case, so I may not remember all the details. But either way, Sergio and Liz were walking around the house setting up the sale that morning, so she’d probably notice her FIL sitting in the car. On the other hand, the assailant planned that Liz would not be able to say anything, so whether she saw the FIL or not, did not matter.

Well, IIRC, Sergio was driving a van at the time, so certainly possible that someone else could have been in the van with him, without anyone outside being able to see them. But I think Sergio drove alone that morning to the Home Depot, where I thought he planned to meet his dad and other members of his work crew. He ended up turning around and went back home before he got there though, after being alerted by I believe his security system of something happening at his house.

 

[FromGermany1]

I would be interested to know, if someone (the later killer) wanted to take Liz' life before in a different way than shooting, for example by poisoning her or something like that. I have in mind the B&E at their home and the shooting at her work place. Maybe, there were other incidents or unexplained illnesses.

Just today I read about the most evil ways to murder a wife or a rival, cases that recently occurred.

 

[arielilane]

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[AppleTreeGreen]

It does give me the impression that whoever was driving the black truck was trying to avoid being seen by Sergio when they moved from their spot in the school parking lot to conceal in another area just as his car was pulling up and he would have been facing them.

I think if this too when recalling that they turned the truck back around after fleeing and are seen driving passed the Barazza’s home again. Perhaps they realized upon reaching Kuykendahl Road in their rush to get away they realized they drove in the wrong direction and did a U-turn because they were supposed to turn and exit on that road at another part of that neighborhood?

I do wonder if he was in contact with someone, like a colleague or his dad who he worked with, to let them know he just left home or he was on the way to Lowe’s and then another individual next to or in contact with that contact then informed Liz’s assailant. In other words, perhaps two or three people are involved in the planning of the terrifying shooting and murder of LB and they used such a method to cover their tracks or limit the type, like text messages pertaining to LB’s or SB’s locations, t
or the amount of digital evidence that could be found on a single phone. Just my own theory or speculation.


IMO LB’s killer also seemed to be in a rush or tried to waste no time that morning in SB leaving and then immediately carrying out the awful attack. I do wonder why that is. It is almost like they were in a rush or had to get it done at that exact time or early as possible even though presumably she would be outside, and therefore more vulnerable, for a good part of the day due to the garage sale.

I could also see the possibility of maybe at least two passengers inside the track during the 2 AM drive as the killer seemed to scout the house and perhaps map their route to and from the house.

I also agree that is quiet possible that truck is not their own personal car and that they were temporarily borrowing it, perhaps too without the owner’s awareness it to commit the crime.

JMO/MOO