TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #11

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  • #441
BF has called Billie his fiance... could Hailey have found that out and run away??
 
  • #442
So now we don't even know what day she went missing on, they aren't being truthful with LE, they failed polys and it's still LE"S fault? pppfffttttttttttttt. If it walks like a duck......... How much more do you need to see that it's looking like the family is involved. If you were just reading about this case and didn't have family friends sharing their view, what would you think?
 
  • #443
Wasn't it on NG they said the police didn't have to take the phone they can get all that information from the phone company? That is my point, there is no reason for them to still have it and they shouldn't still have it unless it is evidence in a crime, and they maintain, this isn't a crime.

That was from a guest who is an "expert" on phones. :)
 
  • #444
On whatever day she went missing she was so distraught about SA becoming her step father???
Could SA and her of fought about it so bad? He has a temper and I can see a 13 year old saying 'you're not my dad,'............'I'm going to tell my dad what you did'.......etc.
My money is on KIS Keep it simple. JMOO

In the NG interviews, BD always calls SA her "boyfriend."

Now suddenly, apparently on SA's MySpace or FaceBook, in an appeal to BD, SA refers to BD as his "fiance."

(lost yet lol?)

Could it be, that the engagement is brand new? That SA has proposed to BD since Hailey disappeared, only to beguile BD's loyalty to him? So that BD will be less inclined to rat him out??

jmo
 
  • #445
Another reason to take the phones could be to look at any and all photos if any, they would not be able to pull those from the phone company ....
 
  • #446
Do you happen to have a link stating it was the mother that called in the Texas Rangers and others? I don't think private citizens can call in the Texas Rangers and the FBI, but I could be sorely mistaken.

It's in the NG transcripts...........Her and Clint called and left a couple of messages, they didn't actually SPEAK to the Rangers, that has been pure NG spin. Even Billie said she didn't know if local LE had called the Rangers too.
 
  • #447
Unfortunately, Billie does not have a phone that Hailey would know the number to. That is another thing that is really bothering her.... what if Hailey had just enough time to make one call? Wouldn't you think it would be to Billie? When you call her phone, it goes straight to voice mail.
really - a 13 year old has no clue her mom's numbers, like to work, etc?
:eek:

I can't imagine a grown woman acting in a threatening manner like this. Are there any problems with gangs in this area?
can you point me to more info on this? acting like what? and who?

Please don't throw shoes at me...But....Is it possible this is a hoax? I dunno, This case confuses me.

can you expain? I am not following...
 
  • #448
So now we don't even know what day she went missing on, they aren't being truthful with LE, they failed polys and it's still LE"S fault? pppfffttttttttttttt. If it walks like a duck......... How much more do you need to see that it's looking like the family is involved. If you were just reading about this case and didn't have family friends sharing their view, what would you think?

Well, I would think that someone in the family was involved in her disappearance. But, that's just me. Because as you pointed out, if it walks like a duck.....It's a duck!:banghead:
 
  • #449
Please don't throw shoes at me...But....Is it possible this is a hoax? I dunno, This case confuses me.

Here comes a boot:crazy: Just kidding. I wish it were!
 
  • #450
really - a 13 year old has no clue her mom's numbers, like to work, etc?

can you point me to more info on this? acting like what? and who?



can you expain? I am not following...

I'm 30 and have no clue what anyone's phone number is, they are all stored in my phone and i just say Call mom and it dials my mom, or call husband and it calls...
 
  • #451
Good morning, I have been thinking about BO's work schedule. Shawn moved into Billie's residence 4 1/2 months ago. I know we can't get ahold Billie's work schedule but since she worked in a nursing home, she must have worked nights which left Shawn in charge.

Anyone hear if SA and BO celebrated Xmas Day with Shawn's family?
 
  • #452
So now we don't even know what day she went missing on, they aren't being truthful with LE, they failed polys and it's still LE"S fault? pppfffttttttttttttt. If it walks like a duck......... How much more do you need to see that it's looking like the family is involved. If you were just reading about this case and didn't have family friends sharing their view, what would you think?

Thanks teh. Said what I was thinking.
My other question is BD was pretty adamant in the beginning that SA did NOT live there.... where did the information that he's lived there for four months come from ?
 
  • #453
So now we don't even know what day she went missing on, they aren't being truthful with LE, they failed polys and it's still LE"S fault? pppfffttttttttttttt. If it walks like a duck......... How much more do you need to see that it's looking like the family is involved. If you were just reading about this case and didn't have family friends sharing their view, what would you think?

omg WHAT? where did you read this at? just waking up here so I am reading all this new info.
 
  • #454
It's in the NG transcripts...........Her and Clint called and left a couple of messages, they didn't actually SPEAK to the Rangers, that has been pure NG spin. Even Billie said she didn't know if local LE had called the Rangers too.

Yes, and we all know how reliable NG is. If they didn't actually speak to the Rangers, then I don't consider it credible that the Rangers were called in by the parents. Or the FBI and Secret Service for that matter.
 
  • #455
Please don't throw shoes at me...But....Is it possible this is a hoax? I dunno, This case confuses me.

Do you mean like for money,donations,etc.?I sure hope not.
 
  • #456
In the NG interviews, BD always calls SA her "boyfriend."

Now suddenly, apparently on SA's MySpace or FaceBook, in an appeal to BD, SA refers to BD as his "fiance."

(lost yet lol?)

Could it be, that the engagement is brand new? That SA has proposed to BD since Hailey disappeared, only to beguile BD's loyalty to him? So that BD will be less inclined to rat him out??

jmo

I swear I'm gonna pull my hair out if anyone gets a tat and gets married.
 
  • #457
Please don't throw shoes at me...But....Is it possible this is a hoax? I dunno, This case confuses me.

That one was in the back of my mind a couple of threads back. Anything is possible I suppose. :waitasec:
 
  • #458
Just wanted to bring up something that was discussed earlier on these threads for HD. The mom, BO, stated in one of her first "TV appearances" that right away she and SA offered to take a poly, but they told them to wait because they both had taken "Ativan" to help them sleep. Again, this was discussed by a few on these threads, the possible effects from this drug. This is all my own point of view on this particular subject.

When I went through my divorce a doctor did prescribe "Ativan" for me. My daughter was only 2 years old at the time. My mom worked the second shift at the time and we were staying with her. It is very hard for me to admit this, but my mother came home from work one night and she said I was zonked out in a recliner and my daughter was trying to show me something and I bearly responded. This was with a very small dose of this powerful drug. This was 31 years ago and it still hurts me to think what could have happened when I took that drug to "get by during the divorce which was really nasty". I now realize that it was acting exactly like a "date rape drug" in my system. If I took one 0.5 mg tablet, it absolutely wiped out my entire memory for the next 6-8 hours. I mean if I had cleaned the house and put anything away during that time, it was lost for a good while because I absolutely could not recall where I put it. (Just trying to give an example how Ativan can wipe out someone's memory). I trusted the doctor that prescribed this and was taking it exactly as he had prescribed it. He knew I had a small child at home, yet, he saw how distraught I was and thought it was okay to give it to me. I would not take this again if someone tried to "poke it down my throat". I now have a 2-year-old granddaughter and when I look at her, I sometimes want to cry, again, thinking about how my mom came home that night and my little baby girl was there with me in that state.

So, I do think it can be safely taken with some individuals but it sure does not work in some people the way it was intended. If BD had taken this, it would be interesting to know if she had been on it prior to HD's disappearance. If she had, then it is understandable to me she could not recall the facts that LE needs from her. All of this is just for me to say how this powerful drug wiped out my memory and I am not saying that I know for sure BD was on it, but I did see her state the drug as Ativan and they both had taken it to help them sleep.

Sometimes doctors are trying to help people get through a difficult situation and to me, I wish I had just tried to make it on my own somehow, although I was almost a zombie just from what was happening to me and my child back then even without any "nerve medicine".
 
  • #459
Possibly because of what they were being told by family and friends,and things on her ms they felt she had runaway.They were going to be given polygraphs whether they wanted them or not.LE also has records of any kind of cases that showed someone might not be truthful in a situation,so there could be questions of people's honesty,etc.
not a professinoal but i think that a poly can be refused.
 
  • #460
I agree with teh that if we did not have Billie's friend and other locals so much on the case, for which we are GRATEFUL, we might not be so harsh on LE and easy on family, so to speak. I mean if we were "flying blind" here and just reading what LE is saying. But I can't think of too many cases when LE turned out to be the bad guy. (I'm sure there are some and I know Texas may even have their share...but you know what I mean.) LE has nothing to gain by pointing fingers at family. Family has everything to gain, potentially, by being honest with LE is there is nothing to hide.
 
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