TX TX-Hunt, Overnight flooding at Camp Mystic, all girls camp. Unknown number of missing. July 4, 2025
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30 ft in 90 minutes. I heard one describe it as about an inch every 30 seconds. By the time water is under your door, it's no time at all before it is up to your chest.30 feet?!?!?!
At least 51 dead in Texas floods, with dozens still missing from summer camp
Dozens dead in Texas floods as search continues for more than 20 missing from camp
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After a flood watch notice midday Thursday, the National Weather Service office issued an urgent warning around 4 a.m. that raised the potential of catastrophic damage and a severe threat to human life. By at least 5:20 a.m., some in the Kerrville City area say water levels were getting alarmingly high. The massive rain flowing down hills sent rushing water into the Guadalupe River, causing it to rise 26 feet (8 meters) in just 45 minutes.
At least 59 people in Kerr County, and eight elsewhere in central Texas were confirmed dead as of Sunday morning.
Beyond the Camp Mystic campers unaccounted for, the number of missing from other nearby campgrounds and across the region had not been released.
“We don’t even want to begin to estimate at this time,” Kerrville City Manager Dalton Rice said Saturday, citing the likely influx of visitors during the July Fourth holiday.
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At least 59 people in Kerr County, and eight elsewhere in central Texas were confirmed dead as of Sunday morning.
Beyond the Camp Mystic campers unaccounted for, the number of missing from other nearby campgrounds and across the region had not been released.
“We don’t even want to begin to estimate at this time,” Kerrville City Manager Dalton Rice said Saturday, citing the likely influx of visitors during the July Fourth holiday.
What to know about the flash floods in Texas that killed nearly 70 people
Flash floods in Texas have killed nearly 70 people, many of them children.
Yeah, devastating. The low pressure system just stalled out in that location and wouldn't budge.30 feet?!?!?!
Estimated 100 billion gallons of rain fell on Kerr County July 4. That’s more than Niagara Falls’ daily flow
The Kerr County area experienced an extraordinary rainfall event, with 10 to 12 inches of rain falling in just a few hours on July 4. The volume of water that poured down amounted to more than 100 billion gallons, a staggering amount that surpasses the daily flow over Niagara Falls.
The volume of water that poured down is estimated to be more than 100 billion gallons, a staggering amount that surpasses the daily flow over Niagara Falls.
“This just goes to show why we saw such devastating flooding in those areas,” KSAT meteorologist Sarah Spivey said.
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Right now, this is all that matters - thank you for saying it!
I'll add- the families whose loved ones lost their lives - keeping them in my prayers.
I agree.
I was surprised that a group of my compatriots (Poland) attended the camp during this tragedy.
As Polish MSM reports
(link provided below)
24 participants from Poland were at the Camp Mystic
for the Camp America cultural exchange.
The Poles are currently staying in hotels in Texas.
Quote:
"Tragic flooding in Texas.
Poles evacuated from Camp Mystic.
'It was like a bad dream'.
After about 30-40 minutes,
power outages began to occur,
and the Wi-Fi network also stopped working.
When the signal briefly appeared around 3 a.m.,
Olaf saw that some of the staff from Poland had started writing in a group chat about the large amount of water accumulating at the resort.
'I knew it was getting serious when they started writing that they could smell something burning',
he added.
'We went outside to see what was happening.
And around us there was just a huge and strong river, about 15 meters wide',
he said."
The whole story in the link.
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Tragiczna powódź w Teksasie. Polacy ewakuowani z obozu Camp Mystic
Co najmniej 51 osób zginęło w wyniku powodzi błyskawicznej, która w piątek spustoszyła Teksas. Szczególnie dotknięte zostało hrabstwo Kerr, gdzie zginęły 43 osoby, w tym 15 dzieci. Polacy, którzy przebywali w obozie Camp Mystic w ramach programu Camp America, zostali ewakuowani i umieszczeni w...
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So glad they're safe.I agree.
I was surprised that a group of my compatriots (Poland) attended the camp during this tragedy.
As Polish MSM reports
(link provided below)
24 participants from Poland were at the Camp Mystic
for the Camp America cultural exchange.
The Poles are currently staying in hotels in Texas.
Quote:
"Tragic flooding in Texas.
Poles evacuated from Camp Mystic.
'It was like a bad dream'.
After about 30-40 minutes, power outages began to occur, and the Wi-Fi network also stopped working.
When the signal briefly appeared around 3 a.m.,
Olaf saw that some of the staff from Poland had started writing in a group chat about the large amount of water accumulating at the resort.
'I knew it was getting serious when they started writing that they could smell something burning',
he added.
'We went outside to see what was happening.
And around us there was just a huge and strong river, about 15 meters wide',
he said."
The whole story in the link.
Click Translate
Tragiczna powódź w Teksasie. Polacy ewakuowani z obozu Camp Mystic
Co najmniej 51 osób zginęło w wyniku powodzi błyskawicznej, która w piątek spustoszyła Teksas. Szczególnie dotknięte zostało hrabstwo Kerr, gdzie zginęły 43 osoby, w tym 15 dzieci. Polacy, którzy przebywali w obozie Camp Mystic w ramach programu Camp America, zostali ewakuowani i umieszczeni w...wiadomosci.onet.pl
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I have been following this one but haven't posted. What is there to say? Just horrible and tragic and sad. I have been praying for all affected.
I agree.
I was surprised that a group of my compatriots (Poland) attended the camp during this tragedy.
As Polish MSM reports
(link provided below)
24 participants from Poland were at the Camp Mystic
for the Camp America cultural exchange.
The Poles are currently staying in hotels in Texas.
Quote:
"Tragic flooding in Texas.
Poles evacuated from Camp Mystic.
'It was like a bad dream'.
After about 30-40 minutes,
power outages began to occur,
and the Wi-Fi network also stopped working.
When the signal briefly appeared around 3 a.m.,
Olaf saw that some of the staff from Poland had started writing in a group chat about the large amount of water accumulating at the resort.
'I knew it was getting serious when they started writing that they could smell something burning',
he added.
'We went outside to see what was happening.
And around us there was just a huge and strong river, about 15 meters wide',
he said."
The whole story in the link.
Click Translate
Tragiczna powódź w Teksasie. Polacy ewakuowani z obozu Camp Mystic
Co najmniej 51 osób zginęło w wyniku powodzi błyskawicznej, która w piątek spustoszyła Teksas. Szczególnie dotknięte zostało hrabstwo Kerr, gdzie zginęły 43 osoby, w tym 15 dzieci. Polacy, którzy przebywali w obozie Camp Mystic w ramach programu Camp America, zostali ewakuowani i umieszczeni w...
So glad they are safe. It must have been terrifying being a guest in a foreign country and having to go through this.
This is very normal with this type of camp. There are many camps like this all over the U.S. Most of them almost always have an international crew on staff. The one I am familiar with had a large group from Eastern Europe as well as a few Brits. I remember my daughter having a friend from London and another from Ireland. Many of them come to either learn English or practice their English. The kids who don't speak English usually do non-counselor type of jobs such as custodians, cooks and kitchen staff. The people my daughter worked with were fascinated with the summer camp experience because they told her it was a unique American experience they only experienced in the movies.
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It would make sense to ask why, rather than assume someone was neglectful. Some of these camps are owned by families who have run these camps for many decades- serving thousands of children for decades without issues. Let’s assume they were not neglectful.
Let’s ask questions
What was the response to the incidents in the 1990s? What changes were made?
What warning systems are in place? Did they work? If not, why not?
If people received a flash flood warning- did they react? Did they get them in time? Did they still have routes above water for escape in vehicles?
Any idea how much land and current buildings, dwellings, roads, bridges, and parks are within 30 vertical feet of the banks of a river?
Some described the river near some parks as having been bone dry for years.
With any tragedy it becomes clear systems need to be improved, updated, redundant systems, so warnings are sent and received- and camp admin, counselors, and campers have a plan in case of emergency.
And escape routes by vehicle that are not blocked by debris, water, or washed out during such floods. This is a big ask for the water and damage of a 500 year flood for all land within 30 vertical feet of a river bank.
Pouring blame and assuming neglect at present doesn’t sit well- too many people are hurting, too much loss, too much heartbreak, and too many doing the work to rescue, recover, and cleanup.
Yes, blame and politics will always come in time, the media, politicians, and families will be certain that is the case.
But… it feels too soon, death tolls are still rising, so many little girls have not yet been found.
Heartbroken
IMO
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death toll at 70; 11 campers missing
Live updates at the link: Flood-ravaged Texas faces more rain; death toll at 70; 11 campers missing: Live updates
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I'm guessing that they know there were 81 people there if the post above says 70 dead with 11 missing. Does anyone know how many were camping out?
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dbm sorry accidental post, wholly in agreement
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As a Brit, I know a few people who spent a summer or two in the US as teenagers, working at camps. I never did it myself, but saw the job ads pretty frequently when I was looking for summer jobs as a teen. Can confirm that it's not that uncommon for kids here to be fascinated by the concept of American summer camps thanks to movies (for me it was The Parent Trap)
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I’m not sure I understand your question, are you asking about a specific location along the impacted rivers?
The land area impacted by the flash floods is many miles of land down two major rivers- Colorado and Guadalupe, several cities, many campgrounds, many children’s camps, many homes.
Total people camping within 25-30 vertical feet of the impacted rivers in Texas over the July 4th weekend? And a lot of people who live along the rivers.
A lot of people
All of those that left early
All of those who evacuated before the event
All of those who escaped during the event
All of those who were rescued afterward- that number is over 800
All of those who are missing
All of those who were lost- the death toll is still rising
Texas Hill County map of river basins and cities-
purple Guadalupe River to and through Canyon Lake
salmon color Colorado River
Today I’ve seen flood damage in Austin, flood warnings for Victoria, Texas- which is along the Texas Gulf Coast in Matagorda County
Texas Major Rivers and Counties- Guadalupe at Kerr County down to the gulf, Colorado from Burnet County down to the gulf
We are talking about thousands of people if we consider all locations impacted by the flood waters
And in many areas it is still raining
Unbelievable and heartbreaking!
IMO
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Well said.
Gov. Abbott is giving a briefing at the moment.
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