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I still find it hard to fathom she was intending on visiting an inmate - the last two sightings of her when she was asking directions were at 6.30pm and later at night at that time of year when it's dark. Surely she didn't think she'd be able to get to visit an inmate at night. IMO if she were going to visit an inmate she'd be more likely asking around to find a bed for the night than directions to the prison. That's what makes me think it was someone who worked there who she thought would be either finishing a shift or able to give her access to where they worked, or that she was looking for a residence right by the prison.

I know teenagers aren't always logical but it just seems too weird to me.
If she was going to visit someone she knew and had some type of communication in the past then I think she would have asked for a phone or phone book instead of directions to the prison. That wouldn't been a good place for her to show up if it was some type of romantic meeting with an older man.
It just feels to me like she might have been with someone who told her they would let her sleep in their vehicle that night and drive her to the prison in the morning. She left the diner with a map but it hasn't been said how long she stayed. It sounds like she wasn't there long, probably because the waitress was asking too many questions.
I believe that was a Friday night. The prison would most likely have visiting hours on Saturdays.
The Ellis Unit held the death row inmates. There were some well known guys there at that time. Candy Man was one of them. The guy who poisoned his son with a pixi stick. I have found a couple inmates that have ties to the coast.
The idea of her coming from a juvenile center is interesting. That might explain why she had nothing with her. She would have been released with what she went in with. Might be why her clothes looked slept in (according to the waitress). Perhaps whatever landed her in detention landed her friend in jail?
 
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Could she have been apart of some group home for teens or girls? That at least would explain her good condition if there weren't any family looking for her. It's just baffling that she hasn't been identified yet, considering she's probably one of the most well known UID's.
The one that seems to be brought up every so often was down in Corpus Christi so it was very close to the area she claimed to be from. However, in the videos I have seen of the school, girls were required to wear long skirts and not jeans like WCJD. I think if she had been there then she would have had any jeans she brought taken away. It also appears they were very aggressive when it came to hunting down any girls who managed to run away. Stories from the Louisiana version of that place include grabbing girls from cars when people tried to pick them up. It would have been extremely lucky for her to get away and make it up here.
An article I read from 1980 said that home for girls was actually shut down in the summer because of the legal problems the leader was facing. I don't think it was opened again after that.
It is possible she was in some other facility or group home. They might have had more lax control of the kids and she managed to slip away. Or her time for being there ended and she was released without anyone picking her up.
 
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Carl has reached out about DDP and isotopes. He may have even mentioned Paragon due to finding being available.

I suggested DDP to Detective Tom Bean. I didn't suggest Parabon to him, I suggested Parabon to the detective in charge of the 1983 St. Louis headless girl case.
 
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Charles Bronson would've been good to deal with whoever killed WCJD - "Do you believe in Jesus? Well, you're going to meet him".
 
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Here u go
 
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I think renewed interest in the case may be because people realize, damn; this girl has been unidentified for almost 4 DECADES. Not only that but as I posted before, and just posted the links by request, but there were 2 popular YouTube channels that did Halloween mysteries videos back on this past Halloween and it could've been that people saw these and looked to see if there was any info on Facebook. Maybe.
Carl, do you know if there was an autopsy report released on her? And also in reference to a question I asked on another post: were the pictures that were shown to the gas station employees, the witnesses, pics from the morgue (after embalming), or drawings of her, or the photos of when she was found?
 
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Don't think it is so much an "urgent need" as just a question that is lingering in a lot of people's minds. There have been cases where the proposed age was a teenager and the person ended up being an adult when they were finally identified. Case in point Andrea Cuiper (not sure if I am spelling that last name right). She was adopted and set off to find her birth family. Her adopted family thought she found her biological family.
 
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But WCJD looks like a kid. Late teens/early twenties females tend to look more like women.
 
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But WCJD looks like a kid. Late teens/early twenties females tend to look more like women.

Mostly true. Though, I have seen some university/college students (mostly first year students), who are Caucasian and still look like though they're in their mid-teens.
 
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It would've been nice to know from the doe network that when you click "view post mortems" it downloads the picture onto your computer.

Jeez. That would be an odd one to explain if someone ever went through my hard drive trying to recover deleted files.
 
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Are there post-Mortum pictures? Sometimes that’s helps...
 
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It would've been nice to know from the doe network that when you click "view post mortems" it downloads the picture onto your computer.

Jeez. That would be an odd one to explain if someone ever went through my hard drive trying to recover deleted files.

Oh geez, yes, I've researched some things that would make them think I'm a serial killer at least.

But you might be able to change whether the photos are saved. That usually isn't under the control of the website; usually a setting somewhere in your browser determines whether a local copy of images is downloaded and saved. Most browsers also have settings to clear saved images and other stuff when you exit.
 
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Do we have a current list of rule outs?
 
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It would've been nice to know from the doe network that when you click "view post mortems" it downloads the picture onto your computer.

Jeez. That would be an odd one to explain if someone ever went through my hard drive trying to recover deleted files.

I have never had it download the picture on me but I see that is an option. When I click on the thumbnail pic it brings up a larger photo in another window. It only downloads if I click the download button in the corner above the thumbnail (it's a little symbol that looks like an inbox with an arrow over it and it says "download" when I hover over it). However, this may depend on what kind of browser/device you are using and your personal settings. I have my browser set to always alert me before downloading and it asks something like "are you sure you want to download this"... You may want to explore your settings. Hopefully if anyone ever went through your hard drive and found Walker County Jane Doe's pictures they would also see you are member and commenter here and it would make some sense. :)
 
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Do we have a current list of rule outs?

These are the ruleouts on Namus. There are quite a few further names scattered through the thread. And I think there's a list on Porchlight, but I don't have a pointer.

MP2560 Maria Anjiras 02/12/1976 Fairfield CT
MP5860 Marie Blee 11/21/1979 Routt CO
MP2928 Kristy Booth 02/02/1980 Midland TX
MP5879 Joyce Brewer 09/06/1970 Dallas TX
MP2345 Carla Corley 08/12/1980 Jefferson AL
MP11009 Kimberly Doss 05/29/1979 Duval FL
MP28953 Roxane Easland 06/28/1980 Anchorage AK
MP2492 Wendy Eaton 05/17/1975 Delaware PA
MP2362 Rachael Garden 03/22/1980 Rockingham NH
MP6937 Tina Kemp 02/03/1979 Kent DE
MP6263 Cindy King 07/19/1977 Josephine OR
MP8253 Deborah McCall 11/05/1979 DuPage IL
MP6391 Angela Meeker 07/07/1979 Pierce WA
MP2392 Laureen Rahn 04/27/1980 Hillsborough NH
MP6744 Mary Trlica 12/23/1974 Tarrant TX
MP4592 Karen Zendrosky 10/22/1979 Mercer NJ

Unidentified Person Case
 
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Do we have a current list of rule outs?

These are the ruleouts on Namus. There are quite a few further names scattered through the thread. And I think there's a list on Porchlight, but I don't have a pointer.

MP2560 Maria Anjiras 02/12/1976 Fairfield CT
MP5860 Marie Blee 11/21/1979 Routt CO
MP2928 Kristy Booth 02/02/1980 Midland TX
MP5879 Joyce Brewer 09/06/1970 Dallas TX
MP2345 Carla Corley 08/12/1980 Jefferson AL
MP11009 Kimberly Doss 05/29/1979 Duval FL
MP28953 Roxane Easland 06/28/1980 Anchorage AK
MP2492 Wendy Eaton 05/17/1975 Delaware PA
MP2362 Rachael Garden 03/22/1980 Rockingham NH
MP6937 Tina Kemp 02/03/1979 Kent DE
MP6263 Cindy King 07/19/1977 Josephine OR
MP8253 Deborah McCall 11/05/1979 DuPage IL
MP6391 Angela Meeker 07/07/1979 Pierce WA
MP2392 Laureen Rahn 04/27/1980 Hillsborough NH
MP6744 Mary Trlica 12/23/1974 Tarrant TX
MP4592 Karen Zendrosky 10/22/1979 Mercer NJ

Unidentified Person Case
 
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I have never had it download the picture on me but I see that is an option. When I click on the thumbnail pic it brings up a larger photo in another window. It only downloads if I click the download button in the corner above the thumbnail (it's a little symbol that looks like an inbox with an arrow over it and it says "download" when I hover over it). However, this may depend on what kind of browser/device you are using and your personal settings. I have my browser set to always alert me before downloading and it asks something like "are you sure you want to download this"... You may want to explore your settings. Hopefully if anyone ever went through your hard drive and found Walker County Jane Doe's pictures they would also see you are member and commenter here and it would make some sense. :)

It was on one of the linked articles. It said something about autopsy photos: "picture 1" and "picture 2" were clickable links so...I figured it would just pop it in another tab....apparently not lol.

Changing my settings is a good idea, too. I should go do that lol
 
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Even though its true she could have come from anywhere I would have to say she at least sounded like she was from Texas. I think that would have been one of the first things the people who talked to her would have mentioned.
Its possible she was estranged from her family. Its even possible she was married. I have seen many missing girls who were 16 or 17 and married. One I saw yesterday I believe said she was 15 and married. Another story I heard was about a girl who ran away many times and when she actually went missing her family just assumed she had run away again and didn't end up reporting her missing for over 5 years.
I think either someone is finally going to ask about what happened to their sister, niece, friend, etc and she is found that way or her DNA is put into GEDMatch and we find some distant relative that never knew anything about her. I did genealogy research when I worked for an attorney. It was one of the first things I tried when I decided to research WCJD. Without a starting point its needle in a haystack territory.
 

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