• #1,061
Thank you Spingrain! The white line at the end of the brow?

Yes! No problem. You can slightly see it interfere with her eyelid.
 
  • #1,062
I did a quick search. It looks like another young girl was dumped on I45 on Dec 10, 1980 - this was farther south, but north of Houston. There's not really a description of what happened other than "homicide".

While searching I also found a PM photo of WCJD that I have not seen before. There are numerous PM photos on this page, so please don't click if you aren't comfortable: http://www.harriscountytx.gov/ifs/UnidentifiedDecedentFliers.aspx#J1989

You will have to scroll down to the 11/1/80 entry to see the picture which is in color, contrary to the other 2 I have seen. It appears the information is from the Harris County ME office. Note, the document filed on the page says she was found 4.5 miles north of Huntsville. That correlates to the 1696 exit and not the culvert a mile from the hitching post. I really don't feel like the latter location and description should be given much weight any more.
If you click on the more information button it doesnt say anything about a scar. 😕

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  • #1,063
I didn't even know for sure if they kept the sandals. I am delighted that they are DNA testing them. She needs justice!

I so wish they mentioned the scar. It was very nicely written, but, like all the other articles, didn't mention the scar. Frustrating.
Could scar be misinformation?Or something she got while missing or even premortem scar from the attack?

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  • #1,064
I do not see it can someone circle where its supposed to be, the pics arent that clear.

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  • #1,065
Thats what I say carbuff, about truckers sitting up high I think she was near the culvert not in it.

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  • #1,066
Could scar be misinformation?Or something she got while missing or even premortem scar from the attack?

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No, the scar is visible on the PM if you look closely.

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Since she had such good dentition, and was at a healthy weight, and was clean, I don't think she had been missing very long at all. The scar is healed and it could be ten years old. I don't think she could have obtained a scar so quickly after the attack.

I have a scar on my eyebrow too, though it isn't at the end of my eyebrow, it's at the start of it. I got it when I was ~1 and learning to walk, so it's been there ~14 years. I think the hair follicles were damaged/something like that (I am not a scientist LOL) and that is why there is no hair growing on it. If it was something that she got while being attacked shortly before her death (hours before) I would think hair would still be on it.
 

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  • #1,067
Thats what I say carbuff, about truckers sitting up high I think she was near the culvert not in it.

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OK...I've never been in a truck so I wouldn't know. Speculation only!
 
  • #1,068
A lot of people are viewing and sharing her story on Never Forget Me. I'm happy her story is getting so much attention. I believe she'll be identified soon.
 
  • #1,069
Regarding the trucker that discovered the body, I don't think his name should be posted while speculating that he committed the murder. I'm sure LE checked him out at the time, and apparently they didn't charge him.
 
  • #1,070
A lot of people are viewing and sharing her story on Never Forget Me. I'm happy her story is getting so much attention. I believe she'll be identified soon.

I noticed that too--a huge thank you to those who run NFM! Not to mention *one* of the articles about her got over 9,000 shares! Calculating in how many shares the other couple articles got, I have a good belief of word maybe reaching the right people. We need to bring her home!
 
  • #1,071
She is also listed on the Walker County TX Sheriff's rule-out list for their 1980 Walker County Jane Doe (though not on WCJD's NamUs rule-out list).

This is off topic from Newhall Jane Doe, but can you provide a link to the Walker County Sherrif page for WCJD? If they are more updated than NamUs, I'd like to see more of her exclusions.
 
  • #1,072
She is also listed on the Walker County TX Sheriff's rule-out list for their 1980 Walker County Jane Doe (though not on WCJD's NamUs rule-out list).

This is off topic from Newhall Jane Doe, but can you provide a link to the Walker County Sherrif page for WCJD? If they are more updated than NamUs, I'd like to see more of her exclusions.

Lt. Perkins 2010 Ruleouts for WCJD
- Corrine Anita Hagler
- Gina Renee Hall
- Adrea Laderoute
- Cecile Frances Moch
- Jane Louise Puckett
- Jean Marie Stewart
- Emma Lorene Vaughn
 
  • #1,073
Regarding the trucker that discovered the body, I don't think his name should be posted while speculating that he committed the murder. I'm sure LE checked him out at the time, and apparently they didn't charge him.

I agree. It's kind of disturbing to me frankly. Adding a "just speculation!" or "jmo" doesn't really do much if you're the person being speculated as a murderer of a teenage girl. I think about how many people don't call the police about suspicious things they see or just don't want to get involved. And here we have a man who, based on the only available information, did the right thing in reporting it to LE. And for that he gets speculated to be a murderer. Imagine doing a google search on yourself and this thread comes up? Just something to think about.
 
  • #1,074
I see your points everyone. Since he is not a suspect, we should refer to him as JR. No disrespect intended towards him.
 
  • #1,075
Agree that calling him JR is best, but want to state the reason I suggest he be interviewed again is because a known serial killer called the truck stop killer who turtured and strangled his victims in his truck has the same last name and operated in houston in later years. When WCJD was found he was in his mid thirties and very well could have been in the area. It's a posssibility she could have been a very early victim of his and in hindsight a better interview could be done. He's in prison serving lige without parole so it's not hard to find him. He is suspected of 50+ murders and this was not know until wcjd case was 10 years cold.
 
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Agree that calling him JR is best, but want to state the reason I suggest he be interviewed again is because a known serial killer called the truck stop killer who turtured and strangled his victims in his truck has the same last name and operated in houston in later years. When WCJD was found he was in his mid thirties and very well could have been in the area. It's a posssibility she could have been a very early victim of his and in hindsight a better interview could be done. He's in prison serving lige without parole so it's not hard to find him. He is suspected of 50+ murders and this was not know until wcjd case was 10 years cold.

Robert Ben Rhoades, yes. Anyway, about JR, I agree with you. Just to be on the safe side, search his recollections.
 
  • #1,077
I see your points everyone. Since he is not a suspect, we should refer to him as JR. No disrespect intended towards him.

JR is still alive & well living out his awesome days in an Illinois state pen.

I have no problem disn' him every time I see his name or crimes.
He doesn't deserve our respect but that's just me.


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  • #1,078
JR is still alive & well living out his awesome days in an Illinois state pen.

I have no problem disn' him every time I see his name or crimes.
He doesn't deserve our respect but that's just me.


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JR is?! Please PM me!
 
  • #1,079
[video=youtube;KDDF4NMTqWY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDDF4NMTqWY"]youtube.com/watch?v=KDDF4NMTqWY[/video]
This video is a top ten countdown of crimes that happened on Halloween. It features both Orange Socks and Walker County Jane Doe. 10:38 - 14:52
 
  • #1,080
I agree. It's kind of disturbing to me frankly. Adding a "just speculation!" or "jmo" doesn't really do much if you're the person being speculated as a murderer of a teenage girl. I think about how many people don't call the police about suspicious things they see or just don't want to get involved. And here we have a man who, based on the only available information, did the right thing in reporting it to LE. And for that he gets speculated to be a murderer. Imagine doing a google search on yourself and this thread comes up? Just something to think about.
I would hate for his rep to be ruined because of said speculations.

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