Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[Earth]

Even if her last known appearance was listed wrong, she is too old to be the WCJD.

Well, Marilee Bruszer...

 

[carbuff]

Well, Marilee Bruszer...

With adult women, it's often difficult to tell anything between 20 and 60--from when the body matures to when wear and tear and arthritis start to set in. It's usually pretty definitive between a still-adolescent and a fully grown woman.

 

[Springrain]

Just a thought about the pantyhose. If she was killed by a trucker, they could have been something that was left behind in the cab of his truck by another female. He could have picked up previous hitchhikers or had a "friend" and when they departed they left them behind. It wouldn't be a great loss as pantyhose cost like a dollar a pair.

This would be another good explanation not involving a female perp.

I know some people think she was killed by one female, due to lack of semen. Which very well could be the case. IMO though it was probably one depraved male.

 

[Vital Forces]

My speculations, keeping what everyone already knows closer to the bottom:

All of the composites suggest that she had one Hispanic parent and one white parent.

I'm not afraid to speculate that she was Catholic, especially if the above is true. She likely has a baptism record in the Corpus Christi Archdiocese archives.

The man she was seeking to visit at Ellis could have been her father, brother or uncle. They did not tell investigators who she was for fear that it might come back and get the mother in trouble somehow. The person she was seeking to visit was likely due to be released around that time. Ellis is not a minimum security prison in any sense. It doesn't seem likely that a boyfriend would have been sent there for a short period of time and was about to be released.

She is likely from the Corpus Christi area. If someone asked me where I was from and I didn't particularly want to tell them, I would probably pick a small town within a one hour drive and give them that, but not my actual city. A former co-worker did just the same thing when asked by suspicious people where he's from. He would give them a small town where no one knew who he was. She could also be from another part of southeastern Texas, such as the San Antonio area.

Her home life could not have been pleasant. Alcohol and/or drug use by one or both parents very likely. Overly strict and religious parenting is another possibility, but not as likely.

WCJD was likely 14 1/2 to 16 1/2 at the time of her murder. Adding in a margin of error, she was likely born between January 1, 1964 and December 31, 1966.

I began working out an Excel document listing the most common names for females born in Texas from 1964 to 1966. Without anything to compare it to, I had to conclude it wouldn't be even marginally useful. You can still find the Social Security Administration's information here.

The best chance of finding someone who knew her would be to send out her picture and information to people who graduated from a Corpus Christi area high school from 1982 to 1984, however I'm sure many from the area have already heard about her.

 

[Vital Forces]

Well, Marilee Bruszer...

WCJD was seen by three people who talked to her and interacted with her. They didn't just see pictures of her; they were in the same room with her and heard her voice and perceived her behavior. She utterly failed to convince the waitress that she was 19. Add that to the forensics and the estimate of 14 1/2 to 16 1/2 is still probable.

 

[Roselvr]

WCJD was seen by three people who talked to her and interacted with her. They didn't just see pictures of her; they were in the same room with her and heard her voice and perceived her behavior. She utterly failed to convince the waitress that she was 19. Add that to the forensics and the estimate of 14 1/2 to 16 1/2 is still probable.

In addition, they did not notice an accent like they would had I come from NJ

 

[Earth]

WCJD was seen by three people who talked to her and interacted with her. They didn't just see pictures of her; they were in the same room with her and heard her voice and perceived her behavior. She utterly failed to convince the waitress that she was 19. Add that to the forensics and the estimate of 14 1/2 to 16 1/2 is still probable.

Hmm, I see.

 

[Earth]

How about any of these? Some have been suggested as serial killer victims, but that's not definite proof they are (remember Leonard Fraser).

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/31371/270 - Patricia Taylor, 14, January 1st 1980, OK. Would have been 15.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12215/280 - Julie Hill, 22, July 18th 1980, MN. Would have been 22.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4571/249 - Lucinda Schaefer, 16, June 24th 1979, CA. Would have been 17.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4594/135 - Barbara Glueckert, 14, August 11th 1974, IL. Would have been 20.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2555/98 - Janice Pockett, 7, July 26th 1973, CT. Would have been 14.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1721/242 - Katherine Anderson, 24, April 20th 1979, MD. Would have been 25. Looks younger than 24.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12102/253 - Norma Halford, 21, August 24th 1979, CO. Would have been 22.

I can't believe it's been 35 years. I know I suggest Janice Pockett for everything (especially the Lime Lady), but I don't want to rule out anything. Remember, if you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, is the answer.

 

[purrito]

Has anyone suggested Sophie Helen Woodman?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/47dfvic.html

She was suggested in the Valentine Sally thread and I thought she resembled WCJD and fit several of her specifics. I realize Australia is a long way from Texas for a young girl but stranger things have happened :/

 

[Roselvr]

Has anyone suggested Sophie Helen Woodman?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/47dfvic.html

She was suggested in the Valentine Sally thread and I thought she resembled WCJD and fit several of her specifics. I realize Australia is a long way from Texas for a young girl but stranger things have happened :/

Would she be able to disguise her accent?
I've wondered if she & her friend had a fight that turned violent.

Circumstances Of Disappearance
Woodman and a friend ran away from their respective Western Australia homes in March of 1980. They reached Victoria together, with plans to meet again in Queensland after going their separate ways for a brief time.

Woodman never arrived as scheduled in Queensland and has not been seen since, nor has she made any contact with family or friends.
Her friend arrived in the region safely, but was not able to help investigators with Woodman's case.

 

[purrito]

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing about the accent after I posted. It seems unlikely she would have bothered to disguise it or was even able to.

 

[CarlK90245]

How about any of these? Some have been suggested as serial killer victims, but that's not definite proof they are (remember Leonard Fraser).

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https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4571/249 - Lucinda Schaefer, 16, June 24th 1979, CA. Would have been 17.

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The evidence that Lawrence Bittaker murdered Lucinda Schaefer is about as definite as you can get. He had her on audiotape begging him to give her a few moments to pray before he murdered her.

She's not WCJD by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Springrain]

The evidence that Lawrence Bittaker murdered Lucinda Schaefer is about as definite as you can get. He had her on audiotape begging him to give her a few moments to pray before he murdered her.

She's not WCJD by any stretch of the imagination.

Yeah, she definitely died in 1979. It is such a horrible, sickening case.

OT, but I saw Andria Ann Bailey mentioned on Who Was Walker County Jane Doe?. I don't see her on the rule-out list, but she has DNA available. But since Roselvr made the post about DNA I've been pretty confused. I thought CODIS was one system...but it's seeming to be different. I thought it would be rule-out by default? I'm so confused..

 

[Vital Forces]

How unique were the necklace and shoes?

With the Peaches case in New York, the police took out an ad in a tattoo magazine to try to find the artist who did the tattoo. It worked.

It's too late to do anything similar now, but maybe they should show the necklace to a jeweler if it's unique.

 

[Springrain]

How unique were the necklace and shoes?

With the Peaches case in New York, the police took out an ad in a tattoo magazine to try to find the artist who did the tattoo. It worked.

It's too late to do anything similar now, but maybe they should show the necklace to a jeweler if it's unique.

Unfortunately, the necklace is lost, and never was photographed.

As for the shoes, a photograph has never been released, although they do still have them.

 

[Earth]

The evidence that Lawrence Bittaker murdered Lucinda Schaefer is about as definite as you can get. He had her on audiotape begging him to give her a few moments to pray before he murdered her.

She's not WCJD by any stretch of the imagination.

Oh, I didn't realise that. Poor little kid.

 

[pukasonqo2]

Would she be able to disguise her accent?
I've wondered if she & her friend had a fight that turned violent.

lupus est homo homini, non homo, non quom qualis sit novit

 

[dizzigirl1]

13 years old crossing 2124 miles (3418 kms) is rather amazing. Victoria to Queensland is another 1800 kms at least. They think Valmae Beck and Barry Watts were potentially responsible. As an aussie, i am hopeless at disguising my accent. Our voices naturally rise as we end a sentence almost always sounding like a question mark and there are some parts of our country where i cannot even understand their accent. lol.

 

[Vital Forces]

Getting a tiny bit grisly here...

I just did my own comparison of her morgue photograph (not the funeral one, but one where her mouth is open) and the recently surfaced one of a girl believed to be named Kathy (or a variant). IMHO, everything looks like a match. Her forehead, eyes, and especially nose and chin match the new picture.

Where did the new picture come from? Where did the name suggestions appear?

 

[carbuff]

The people researching Allenstown NH Jane Doe and her children (on Facebook) found a C. missing in Vermont. I thought she looked like this girl too but I'm not sure the timeline works. They think C. went missing in about 1974 when she was 15, so she'd have been 21 in 1980.

eta: you probably mean the Kathy earlier in this thread. My bad.