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Mary’s DNA may have been recently added to NamUs.

I do not know when MLR had her DNA submitted into NamUs, but her DNA was available as of 2016.
 
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I got this from the Doe Network
 

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WCJD does *not* look like a woman. Her face is younger and rounder. I don't know why some are so keen to make her seem older.
 
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Mary looks too old to be WCJD IMO, and I don’t see a resemblance when estimating lip to chin, width between eyes, shape of forehead and hairline etc. However, the post Mortem state makes it more difficult. CarlK is the one with the eye. We’ll see what he thinks.
I don’t see a resemblance.

Amateur opinion and speculation.
 
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She definitely looks younger!
 
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WCJD does *not* look like a woman. Her face is younger and rounder. I don't know why some are so keen to make her seem older.
That’s just my personal opinion. I do not think she looks 12. She looks closer to 16 to me. I certainly don’t think that’s old but I do think that 16 is a woman as well as a child.
 
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Oh yea? Why do you say that? I think she looks young but not that young, in my opinion. 16 maybe, but no younger I’d say. I’ve seen the crime scene photo and she looks like woman, not a girl (sorry to be graphic). It could be the perspective though. Again, just my opinion.
Where did you find crime scene photos?
 
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Where did you find crime scene photos?

I wonder if they are referring to unedited PM photos? I recall seeing one online somewhere, I think one of her Jane Doe videos on Youtube may also have one.
 
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I've seen the PM.. I'm thinking 16.
 
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I think she looks closer to the upper end of her age range as opposed to the lower. The edited photo and autopsy photo (especially) make her look younger, IMHO.
 
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Didn't I read somewhere that she was in fact wearing hose because they were used to strangle her and were stuffed into her mouth??
 
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I'm sorry if this has been asked before... I couldn't find any info. Did LE recollect DNA from her killer? (Since he left bite marks on her shoulder).
 
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I'm sorry if this has been asked before... I couldn't find any info. Did LE recollect DNA from her killer? (Since he left bite marks on her shoulder).
No DNA at that time so they probably didn't even think to do anything. It was suggested the shoes undergo DNA testing but I don't think that has been done either.
Didn't I read somewhere that she was in fact wearing hose because they were used to strangle her and were stuffed into her mouth??
The hose weren't stuffed in her mouth. They were used to stop blood and body fluids from leaking out after the rape and murder.
 
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Was there ever any explanation for what Henry Lee Lucas did with his victims clothing and why he left jewelry on the bodies?
 
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No DNA at that time so they probably didn't even think to do anything. It was suggested the shoes undergo DNA testing but I don't think that has been done either.

They should have photographed the bite so that it could potentially be matched to a suspect's teeth in future.
 
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They should have photographed the bite so that it could potentially be matched to a suspect's teeth in future.
They must have because the investigator said they tried to compare it to Lucas but it didn't match. Lucas claimed he had work done on his teeth afterward.
 
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They must have because the investigator said they tried to compare it to Lucas but it didn't match. Lucas claimed he had work done on his teeth afterward.


Can you provide a source for this information because I thought they couldn't compare HLL bite marks to orange socks not WCJD because he was edentulous by time he was arrested. Just making sure I have my facts straight.
 
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Over on Reddit, someone made a thread suggesting Barbara Bruno as a possible match to WCJD. I offered to call it in to LE for them because they live in Canada. I know Barbara was suggested as a match here in 2013/14, but did anyone actually submit her? Is she ruled out?
 
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Over on Reddit, someone made a thread suggesting Barbara Bruno as a possible match to WCJD. I offered to call it in to LE for them because they live in Canada. I know Barbara was suggested as a match here in 2013/14, but did anyone actually submit her? Is she ruled out?

Don't know about the NamUs' rule-out list, but both Barbara and WCJD has DNA available, so this should be a rule out by default.
 

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