TX TX - Jason Landry, 21, enroute from TSU to home, car found crashed at Luling, 14 Dec 2020 #4

[Gemmie]

I always wondered if he didn't drive around the area for a while, before ending up where he did; maybe he didn't just go straight through that intersection and up Salt Flat Road... maybe he went elsewhere first.

You know, that is entirely possible. I'm thinking he went straight after crossing that intersection where he should have turned right but that is very possible that he did drive around, but I'd be surprised if he did. Solely based on the fact he couldn't go from Point A to Point B without Waze (my take on his father's comment about driving into a wall if it told him to), and Waze was never turned back on after he Snapped with someone. MOO

 

[Gemmie]

"Investigators are now looking to flesh out what happened in the approximate 67-minute window between his cell phone data stopping and the discovery of the crash."

Thank you, Gemmie. My apologies for the error in the post. I knew something didn't seem right in the wording when I became surprised by the length of the reply when it posted. It was edited no less than 3 times in my grogginess. I must be more careful. Thanks, again.

You're welcome. But I have to agree with you about how quickly it was towed... it sure wasn't much time after it was found and when they actually did tow it which is just odd to me. What was the rush? It wasn't blocking anything. Things that make ya go hmmmm.....

 

[Quill]

Interesting thoughts. Intense. Why would a cult find it necessary to wreck Jason's car into a Luling tree instead of just abandoning it along the roadway? That is, if JL wished for a cultish lifestyle.

Stripping himself of underwear, and all other worldly goods, in this theory, Jason may have gone into a life of seclusion, within a cult, where he can't share his location among his family and friends; thereby, forever denying himself to be gamer, a college student, a brother, and a son.

I wish I could remember the case name, but there was another missing young man, also a college student, who went missing. His car was found running with the driver's side door open at a gas station in TX (if I recall correctly). He was later listed as "found" but this was based on contact with a "guru" of some "group" in Mexico. I will dig around and see if I can come up with the actual facts not based on my recollection. I must say I have always looked side-eye at whether or not this person was missing of his own accord because he was an orphan and had no need to leave mysteriously. He could have just walked off without the mysterious circumstances.

 

[Quill]

Hate to say this & hope I'm 100% wrong, but imo he was tripping and wrecked.
Then it became a hide from "the man" situation.
Kinda a Maura Murray situation

But no one really knows what Maura Murray's situation was.....

 

[jellybean96]

Jasons clothes were folded neatly, quite a distance away from his wreck. No streetlights or homes with lights to offer light. His phone (with flashlight) was in his car.

Question: I suck at directions and maps, but was his headlights facing in the directions of where he'd need light to see to fold his clothing? I know this has been figured out, but I cant recall what was said.

 

[DeDee]

Yet we have no idea what address was his ultimate destination or what address was entered into waze....Honestly, we have no proof he was in the car when it crashed.

This addresses the elephant in the room, doesn't it? Quite the conundrum to have a one car crash accident and a cell phone with tracking data, yet have no eyewitnesses and no body.

 

[TGIRecovered]

There is no telling how far he walked down the road or which way he was going. Maybe another vehicle comes along, not expecting anyone to be on the road in the dark, and hits him. This would panic any driver but what if the driver was either not supposed to be there at that time of night or was impaired in some way, didn’t want to have anything to do with police because they’ve got a warrant or are involved in illegal activities. There are any number of reasons a person might not want to report such an accident. What if his body was stuck in their windshield? It happens. They’re alone in the country and nobody is there to see so they take the body and get rid of it somewhere else.

I think that if he was out there dead he would’ve been found. Dead bodies draw vultures especially in rural areas. A person might not notice if a few vultures quickly disposed of the small animal but dead human body in the area would have been obvious.

MOO

 

[jellybean96]

There is no telling how far he walked down the road or which way he was going. Maybe another vehicle comes along, not expecting anyone to be on the road in the dark, and hits him. This would panic any driver but what if the driver was either not supposed to be there at that time of night or was impaired in some way, didn’t want to have anything to do with police because they’ve got a warrant or are involved in illegal activities. There are any number of reasons a person might not want to report such an accident. What if his body was stuck in their windshield? It happens. They’re alone in the country and nobody is there to see so they take the body and get rid of it somewhere else.

I think that if he was out there dead he would’ve been found. Dead bodies draw vultures especially in rural areas. A person might not notice if a few vultures quickly disposed of the small animal but dead human body in the area would have been obvious.

MOO

But maybe no vultures if the wild hogs found him first. They will eat and destroy everything in their path.

 

[Gemmie]

Jasons clothes were folded neatly, quite a distance away from his wreck. No streetlights or homes with lights to offer light. His phone (with flashlight) was in his car.

Question: I suck at directions and maps, but was his headlights facing in the directions of where he'd need light to see to fold his clothing? I know this has been figured out, but I cant recall what was said.

Where did you see that his clothes were neatly folded? I thought we cleared that up a while back when someone posted that same info. They were strewn in the road, not neatly folded. BBM.

Strewn along the road, about 900 feet from the crash, were clothing, including a shirt, shorts, socks, underwear, slide sandals and a wristwatch belonging to Landry. Investigators think the clothing was what Landry wore before the crash.

Searchers have covered more than 36,000 acres, but no sign of missing Texas State student and numerous other sites. Also they were captured on video strewn, not neatly folded.

 

[jellybean96]

Where did you see that his clothes were neatly folded? I thought we cleared that up a while back when someone posted that same info. They were strewn in the road, not neatly folded. BBM.

Strewn along the road, about 900 feet from the crash, were clothing, including a shirt, shorts, socks, underwear, slide sandals and a wristwatch belonging to Landry. Investigators think the clothing was what Landry wore before the crash.

Searchers have covered more than 36,000 acres, but no sign of missing Texas State student and numerous other sites. Also they were captured on video strewn, not neatly folded.

I had it in my notes they were folded. I have been working so may have missed they weren't *actually* folded. If they weren't folded then that clears up how I was wondering how could have seen to do it.

 

[MimosaMornings]

KL mentioned how covid lockdowns had been difficult for his son, Jason, to manage being an excited 1yr student at TSU yet experiencing online studies while confined in quarantined spaces that were claustrophobic and isolating <my word choices>.

Therefore, JL may have been restricted from successfully reaching and making a wide circle of new friends fall semester.

Restrictions from C19 has adversely effected my fam. Children need to run and play, rain or shine, and so do I.

Since returning about two weeks to TSU after Thanksgiving spent with family was Jason denied an ability to hit up pizza joints, visit local parks, coffee shops, shopping, did school activities cancel, have v little one on one and limited socializing happen due to everything being closed?

Has anyone mentioned Jason L carrying a C19 mask(s)? None have been mentioned in any news reports, tmk. Or was he recently one prone not to wear the paper or cloth coverings? Where is Jason? Please.
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It was Jason’s first year at TSU but not his first year of college.

Wasn’t Jason in an apartment with a roommate not a residence hall?

He would have been able to go to coffee shops (Drive thru or pick up) pizza places (sit outside with friends or delivery to eat in at his place with a “friend bubble”), local parks available and there were in person and online/remote options for classes.

He also had a job. He could go outside and throw a frisbee with friends, go hiking, fishing, drive to the coast, etc.

Do we know what Jason’s favorite activities were? His favorite class? Vacation spot?
Did he go on spring break in previous years with college mates? Did he enjoy staying in and gaming more than outdoor pursuits? Enjoy a few close friends or a large crowd to party with? Or did he prefer to go home and spend time with family?

Update for Students from Dean of Students, July 29

“Many student life activities, support services, and programs will be held both in-person and virtually this fall. Please visit Student Involvement to learn about how you can get connected with student organizations at Texas State University.”

Crowds in Galveston for Spring Break since Texas reopened | khou.com

 

[diggndeeperstill]

But maybe no vultures if the wild hogs found him first. They will eat and destroy everything in their path.

Actually, they don't. That is quite a mistaken fact. There have only been 4 fatalities from wild hogs EVER. That is not 4 consumed an entire body. That is 4 fatalities. Upthread somewhere I posted about it.

 

[TXHeritage]

But maybe no vultures if the wild hogs found him first. They will eat and destroy everything in their path.

I've read this wild hog theory several times. Texas feral hogs are a big nuisance but are very rarely aggressive. If you corner a Mom and her babies, she might take a run at you - or if you came upon one that was injured. They do not attack and eat humans. But, Yes! they certainly will destroy your property! Also, rabbit trail - I've always heard that hitting a hog is worse than hitting a deer because it can cause your car to flip. We hit a young hog on the highway earlier this year in my husband's truck - guess it was small enough and the truck was big enough that all was okay.

 

[TXHeritage]

I've read this wild hog theory several times. Texas feral hogs are a big nuisance but are very rarely aggressive. If you corner a Mom and her babies, she might take a run at you - or if you came upon one that was injured. They do not attack and eat humans. But, Yes! they certainly will destroy your property! Also, rabbit trail - I've always heard that hitting a hog is worse than hitting a deer because it can cause your car to flip. We hit a young hog on the highway earlier this year in my husband's truck - guess it was small enough and the truck was big enough that all was okay.

Wild Pig and Human Interactions | Texas A&M NRI

 

[Quill]

Actually, they don't. That is quite a mistaken fact. There have only been 4 fatalities from wild hogs EVER. That is not 4 consumed an entire body. That is 4 fatalities. Upthread somewhere I posted about it.

I get what you are saying here. But I think the reason hogs so often come into these conversations is more often than not about what they will consume. They are not a predator in the sense they will kill you and eat you. More than likely they will injure you but they will consume anything and everything.

 

[8th Bob-White]

I don't think hogs went after Jason alive, but they certainly would take advantage of finding his body if he was already deceased (perhaps from hypothermia)

 

[TXHeritage]

Perhaps - but, I think buzzards would be around long before feral hogs. Not an expert, but I've co-existed with feral hogs for over 20 years on a ranch where we had cows/deer/etc. die on the property. The buzzards would come - but, I never saw any evidence of hogs. I wish they would have - a dead cow is a horrible smell in Texas heat.
Food Habits of Feral Hogs – Wildlife Damage Management

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I get what you are saying here. But I think the reason hogs so often come into these conversations is more often than not about what they will consume. They are not a predator in the sense they will kill you and eat you. More than likely they will injure you but they will consume anything and everything.

I just have to say, that if that were the case here there would have been something left that search dogs would have found. They don't consume all the large bones or hair from what I have read. So, I don't think we need to imagine that it would be a "clean scene" with no trace evidence to be found because of that scenario. Moreso, I do not believe for one moment that is the scenario that occurred here.

 

[Quill]

I just have to say, that if that were the case here there would have been something left that search dogs would have found. They don't consume all the large bones or hair from what I have read. So, I don't think we need to imagine that it would be a "clean scene" with no trace evidence to be found because of that scenario. Moreso, I do not believe for one moment that is the scenario that occurred here.

I see your point and I don't necessarily believe that is what happened here either. I just know about hog behavior, wild and domestic.

 

[DeDee]

Let me be clear. I do not personally know the missing person, Jason Landry.

It was Jason’s first year at TSU but not his first year of college.

Yes. It was his first year at TSU.

Wasn’t Jason in an apartment with a roommate not a residence hall?

Yes, Jason had an apartment although I do not know details about location, who paid for it or if he had roommates or not.

He would have been able to go to coffee shops (Drive thru or pick up) pizza places (sit outside with friends or delivery to eat in at his place with a “friend bubble”), local parks available and there were in person and online/remote options for classes.

Our local parks have been marked off with crime scene tape including the tennis courts and children's play area but it could be different in San Marcos. The bubble is not something I'm familiar with. Do you wish to elaborate?

He also had a job. He could go outside and throw a frisbee with friends, go hiking, fishing, drive to the coast, etc.

I suppose he could have driven to the coast recently. Did he? Did his employee know Jason was going to be gone for a while in December?

Do we know what Jason’s favorite activities were? His favorite class? Vacation spot?

I personally do not know his favorite activities other than playing games as indicated by the items located inside the backpack. Where did he go for vacations?

Did he go on spring break in previous years with college mates? Did he enjoy staying in and gaming more than outdoor pursuits? Enjoy a few close friends or a large crowd to party with? Or did he prefer to go home and spend time with family?

I am certain that I don't know the answer to those personal questions about Jason but that does not mean I don't want to help find him. Was he reluctant to visit home where his other family members may be?

Update for Students from Dean of Students, July 29

“Many student life activities, support services, and programs will be held both in-person and virtually this fall. Please visit Student Involvement to learn about how you can get connected with student organizations at Texas State University.”

Crowds in Galveston for Spring Break since Texas reopened | khou.com

Although I could be so wrong, I don't suspect Jason left his apartment and wandered off in Luling in December then spent Spring Break in Galveston, TX this past week. However, if you know something differently, just tell us. We can handle the truth. We'd really appreciated anything you are willing to share.