I don't think you understood what I wanted to say,
@beubeubeu. The truth is, I read Mr. Jellinek's statement. (Mr. Jelinek is Thomas's lawyer). I think i am mentally debating with him.
Im Jänner erfror eine Salzburgerin am Großglockner, ihr Partner hat sie entkräftet zurückgelassen. Der Mann, gegen den wegen fahrlässiger Tötung ermittelt wird, nimmt erstmals zu den Vorwürfen Stellung.
www.rechtsanwalt-salzburg-jelinek.at
I apologize then. And then yeah, youre right.
"Both considered themselves to be sufficiently experienced, adequately prepared, and well-equipped,” the statement reads. Both possessed “relevant alpine experience” and were “in very good physical condition.”"
So see, this is how TP wants it to look like. As if the climb was the escapade of two equals until the situation suddenly became desperate. And he also blames the helicopter and the rescuers. Which is horrible.
But oh, this is true statement I believe.
Carefully worded.
By why oh why, I wonder why was she considering herself sufficiently experienced, adequately prepared, and well-equipped and if that might have anything to do with the fact that she may, during this almost/over year long relationship get under impression that her boyfriend has years of experience in practicing climbing and went on Gross via Studl multiple times, including winter.
Of course she did possessed relevant alpine experience. Take one random person on the street and ask them about their level of experience in alpine climbing and sure as hell in that comparison Kerstin had some seriously superior experience. She lived in Alps. She hiked in Alps possibly all her life. That counts as "relevant alpine experience".
Thats no accident that it doesnt say "relevant alpine
climbing experience" or "relevant alpine
WINTER climbing experience". Theyre making statement that actually is true.
And its also true that they were both in very good physical condition. No doubt about it. Without "very good physical condition" nobody would even get to start of Studlgrat in January.
That implies a lot but says nothing.
Sumo fighter may be in very good physical condition. Ballerina dancing on stage pretty sure is in very good physical condition. Doesnt mean theyre gonna do well climbing Grossglockner in January. Olympic canoneing gold champion in peak of their form is in more than "very good physical condition". All that means and tells nothing in context of climbing Gross in January.
But thats how they get people to fight in youtube comments trying to prove that nevermind Thomas, it couldnt possibly be premeditated murder no matter what cause she went there by herself. Like they havent got grasp on the concept of deception.
In the initial statement, I believe, he might be hinting at multiple situations happening in "big mountains". What I wanted to say is that the "big mountain stories" are no analogy to his situation because 1) their level of mountainous experience is incomparable with what Kerstin had and 2) people who climb dangerous mountains are aware of the risks. They know the statistics. Ultimately, it may be their choice. They take these risks because they beat the odds at other mountains. Kerstin apparently was not an experienced mountaineer and she did not know the risks involved. (Her clothes and lack of safety kit for her vouch for it).
The parallel could be the following. Circus ropewalkers. It is a dangerous work. Most use safety ropes but some don't. Their choice. However, they train for years (many grow up in circus families). They do it daily, know their risks, their circus and their ropes, too.
If you put a random person up there and say, walk, it is safe, it will be incomparable.
So IMO, for Stüdlgrat, Thomas was the ropewalker. And Kerstin, a random person.
And there is also that their relationship makes a difference.
Usually that doesnt apply to risky climbs. You dont have many people climbing dangerous mountains who got like 90 or more % of their experience from one person whos also their only companion and life partner.
Theyre gaining it over time, from different people, different sources.
The chance that theyre on guard to look for any possible new info, tips and gears is uncomparably higher than in case of having that guiding life and climbing partner.
The chance that their decision about going for a climb upon experiencing some concern will depend solely on their faith in their companion's opinion is much lower if such companion has comparable experience to theirs - will increase a bit if that companion has significantly more experience - but that still will be nothing if compared to significantly more experience + the fact that its their significant other also.
And its not like being a girlfriend of a climber vs. being a climber = not gaining or seeking any knowledge, info and experience by herself vs. doing it all by themselves.
But even, I dont know how to describe it well but pardon me, the exposition for the outside information decreases a bit.
Lets say
someone is into crocheting. They crochet their whole life. They have friends who also crochet for years.
Option A: they meet new person who mentions they just got into crocheting.
Option B: they meet new girlfriend of a guy whos crocheting for years and that gf says that shes just got into crocheting herself.
The chance that
this person is going to share their crocheting tips and basic info with the girlfriend from option B is lower than with the person from option A. They might. Or they may not. Much much easier to think that girlfriend already heard or might ask anything she needs from the boyfriend than to assume that person from option B already knows everything and will even predict what kind of issues they may stumble on later.
Its not a big thing, but another small factor in "how could she not know x or z?".
In this day and age is pretty easy to find answers... if you know the questions. Without experience nobody knows all the important questions to ask. It comes with time. And youre not digging that deep if your partner seems to be an expert.
Like whos gonna google plumbing issues more likely: random person or a person whos married to a plumber? Of course the ones married to plumbers are gonna ask or tell about the issue to their spouses, not ask google, friends or other plumbers and no matter how special some climbing enthusiasts want that activity to be, that applies to climbing too.
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