GUILTY TX - Jazmine Barnes, 7, shot/killed in drive-by shooting, Houston, Dec 2018 *ARREST*

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(O/T, some here may also find Melissa Peskey’s case of interest; she was shot and killed on the highway, her kids were in the car with her. LE is currently trying to reconstruct the incident, etc. It is not known at this time if this shooting was random or targeted:

MO - Melissa Peskey, 40, shot and killed, Boonville, 13 December 2018 )
 
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Good Morning everyone.

Thread is open again.
 
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I’m not sure how to say this in a way where I won’t be misunderstood. I think it disturbs me that the description was so specific, down to eye color (it was still dark outside) and the movements of the vehicle that the man described was driving. If someone was close enough to be seen so vividly from multiple directions wouldn’t it have been obvious there were two people in the car, not one, since the passenger was allegedly the shooter?

I understand that it was no doubt a chaotic situation, but the info given stalled the investigation. I suppose the question is was it intentional or not?

But the bottom line is that one more beautiful child died because so many people have learned that taking a life is okay.
 
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I’m not sure how to say this in a way where I won’t be misunderstood. I think it disturbs me that the description was so specific, down to eye color (it was still dark outside) and the movements of the vehicle that the man described was driving. If someone was close enough to be seen so vividly from multiple directions wouldn’t it have been obvious there were two people in the car, not one, since the passenger was allegedly the shooter?

I understand that it was no doubt a chaotic situation, but the info given stalled the investigation. I suppose the question is was it intentional or not?

But the bottom line is that one more beautiful child died because so many people have learned that taking a life is okay.

imo all we can go by for now is that the police have stated they dont believe anyone provided misleading information on purpose and they do believe that there was a red truck at the scene and they would still like to talk to the driver (they do not believe this man has done anything wrong)
 
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I’m not sure how to say this in a way where I won’t be misunderstood. I think it disturbs me that the description was so specific, down to eye color (it was still dark outside) and the movements of the vehicle that the man described was driving. If someone was close enough to be seen so vividly from multiple directions wouldn’t it have been obvious there were two people in the car, not one, since the passenger was allegedly the shooter?

I understand that it was no doubt a chaotic situation, but the info given stalled the investigation. I suppose the question is was it intentional or not?

But the bottom line is that one more beautiful child died because so many people have learned that taking a life is okay.
I think your websleuths intuition is serving you well. Looking through & getting caught up on the case.. I feel it was to throw off suspicion. Well why? if you pissed off dangerous people but still have to answer for the situation in which your daughter is involved.. what do you do? Out for breakfast materials huh..
 
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imo all we can go by for now is that the police have stated they dont believe anyone provided misleading information on purpose and they do believe that there was a red truck at the scene and they would still like to talk to the driver (they do not believe this man has done anything wrong)
So Shooter, amount of shooters, vehicle incorrect, but information that lead to their capture via writer Shaun King came from where? And whatelse did the tipster say? Not going to link a social media site but will link what CNN stated..
"Meanwhile, investigators are still looking for the driver of a red pickup truck reported at the scene, Gonzalez said. They do not believe the driver -- described as a white man in his 40s -- or the truck were involved in the shooting, he said, despite previous reports suggesting racism played a role in Jazmine's death."
Jazmine Barnes shooting: Prosecutors name second suspect - CNN

Guess the truth will come out in short order..
 
  • #329
REMINDER: WS is victim friendly.

This family are victims who have lost their beloved child and sister. Do not make accusations or negative statements indicating their possible responsibility for this crime or for any dishonesty on their part. Be patient and hopefully there will be a clear explanation in time.

Bumping, again.
 
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The closest Joe Vs would have been been at 5609 Uvalde Road. If she had turned right at Wallisville Road, it was 1 mile down the road.

The new one is at 3500 Garth Road in Baytown and is 15 miles away from where the shooting occurred.

In a hurry with grandmother coming over early for breakfast- the one on Uvalde makes sense.
 
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4 witness's also report seeing someone in the red truck shooting. Yet no one saw the "stealth perps". Our military should study how they pulled this off.
 
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The red truck was in front of her so perhaps he got on Beltway 8 - entrance ramp was on the left - could have been going around behind them to get on the Beltway since it was right there.

She made a u-turn and headed the opposite direction (going north) - did she get on the Beltway or continue on the feeder road for 1.5 miles where a u-turn Lane is available?

I had never experienced a “u-turn” lane or a “hump” bridge until I drove in Texas.
 
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How did other witnesses know it was the driver in the red truck shooting - and immediately chase him down to confirm the description?

How did they miss the Rio with the passenger shooting in the driver’s side?

I’m befuddled.
 
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Thanks for posting, much at that link.
(@MsFacetious)

Yes, I think there are a couple other points that could have been mentioned too.

The fact that the red truck was driving quickly, going around the family vehicle drew attention to it from the family's perspective. For the other witnesses, it is simply a well proven fact that red vehicles are noticed far more. They get pulled over by police more for example.

I think after the witnesses got out of survival mode as described in the article, they looked up to see the red truck getting on the freeway. They didn't see the actual suspect since he had turned off the road into a neighborhood immediately after shooting. So, the red truck was the only one they saw.

We've seen suspects get away with things we would have never thought possible. It's just a little bit of dumb luck, everyone looked at the bright red truck and nobody noticed them.


Jazmine Barnes: Why the man arrested in 7-year-old's death didn't fit witnesses descriptions. - CNN

At least four other witnesses also reported seeing someone in a red truck fire at the vehicle, Merritt said.
But witness accounts are inherently fallible.

"Generally speaking, when we're talking about these kinds of events, we're talking about something that happens quickly. It's unexpected," said Gary Wells, a psychology professor at Iowa State University who is an expert in eyewitness testimony. "The brain isn't really wired to record verbatim accounts of things but rather is wired only to record the gist of things."
That's especially the case in dangerous circumstances, he said.

"When we become fearful, all of our mental resources tend to go toward survival. That's why we duck, we run," he said. "None of our mental resources are really going to be forming long-term memories. It's not functional. What's functional for survival is to survive."
 
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Pure speculation. Since the tipster had the initials of the perps, I'm assuming he/she knew them & most likely learned of their involvement from them or other friends. Being a true crime addict I know a lot of crimes are solved this way. If they hadn't come forward the police would still be looking for the red truck. It's still incredible to me that no other evidence was developed as far as I know. Didn't anyone see the "stealth perps" car & if they did why weren't the police asking for the publics health in locating it.
 
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Perhaps with all of the witness statements they were focused on the blue eyed guy in the red truck.
I never saw anything else in the local news.
 

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