NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #7 *Arrest*

[armchairagatha]

100% agree!

Persecutory delusion perhaps? Some kind of psychosis is indicated.

Persecutory delusion - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[kamare]

Just now
Shawn Hubler NYT
R.J. Martin, a friend of Mangione who had lived with him in Honolulu, said that the younger man eventually did get spinal surgery in 2023. But when Martin asked via text how it had gone, Mangione had replied, “long story” and did not elaborate. They last texted in April, he said, and promised to catch up via phone, but did not. “Yo! You awake? “ Martin said he texted in late May. Then on June 23: “Where in the world are you?”

Update from Shawn Hubler

www.nytimes.com

 

[kamare]

Is this legitimate?

No. It was posted on X that it was created today and is fake.

 

[whitelilac]

I'm so sorry. What do people do when they need to take a loan? I think banks require insurance.

I have no idea.

 

[Miss Poovy]

I would love to know what medications he may have been taking for pain.

Legit back pain medicine? If past the pain of surgery & for typical back pain, this may represent typical medicine for back pain: any one or combination of the following: muscle relaxer: TIZANIDINE or methocarbamol, pain: Tramadol, Advil, Tylenol, extra strength or arthritis strength. MOBIC. Nerve pain & some other pain: Cymbalta, Gabapentin, Lyrica. This is typical after you have gone off of OxyCodone or Hydrocodone and after the surgical pain ball. Last Resort: epidurals/nerve blocks.
Past this point, if you are still in pain past a certain level, you are usually referred to pain management.
Remember my experience & opinion.
I’m presenting this as “typical” course. Probably many variations. Orthopedics & Neurosurgeon usually won’t give you more than three scripts of narcotics in the area where I live.
All my opinion & personal knowledge. It may be a long road to recovery & one may also be in PT.

 

[Mr.Dandy]

He was not charged with murder in Pennsylvania because he did not commit murder in Pennsylvania. He will be charged with murder in New York and extradited. This is 100% how the process works and I don’t find anything particularly weird about this sequence of events. Do you think police planted all of the evidence on him?

JMO

No. But the someone said he was charged with murder. I was simply correcting that.
But you are correct. He wouldn’t be charged with murder in Penn

 

[kamare]

No. But the someone said he was charged with murder. I was simply correcting that.
But you are correct. He wouldn’t be charged with murder in Penn

He has already been charged with murder in NY.

 

[Tiff23fr]

In 2024 he spent time in Japan, posting about life there in mid-April: “Modern Japanese urban environment is an evolutionary mismatch for the human animal. The solution to falling birthdates isn’t immigration. It’s cultural,” he wrote on X, calling for the country—and the world—to “encourage natural human interaction, sex, physical fitness and spirituality.”

Why Luigi Mangione Went Dark in 2023 and Returned Transformed

Something happened to Luigi Mangione in 2023. He had been the valedictorian of his private Maryland high school—Gilman, where annual tuition is currently $35,000—graduating in 2016. He was strong, good-looking, and smart: a golden son in a sprawling Baltimore family whose wealth had been built...

www.yahoo.com

I am curious what he became involved in when he got laid off???

 

[Vegasgrl]

I would love to know what medications he may have been taking for pain.

I think he told the judge that he isn't currently taking any medications.

 

[airportwoman]

I'm sure it's been posted, but here's a picture of an x-ray that is allegedly his. You do not have to be registered on X to see this link. (It looks like he had some kind of lower back injury that had to be stabilized.)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1866191240993317368

 

[whowy]

If the x-ray with pins in the lower back from his Twitter is anything to go on, he did have surgery. JMO

Unfortunately, surgery doesn't always resolve the pain.

 

[armchairagatha]

In 2024 he spent time in Japan, posting about life there in mid-April: “Modern Japanese urban environment is an evolutionary mismatch for the human animal. The solution to falling birthdates isn’t immigration. It’s cultural,” he wrote on X, calling for the country—and the world—to “encourage natural human interaction, sex, physical fitness and spirituality.”

Why Luigi Mangione Went Dark in 2023 and Returned Transformed

Something happened to Luigi Mangione in 2023. He had been the valedictorian of his private Maryland high school—Gilman, where annual tuition is currently $35,000—graduating in 2016. He was strong, good-looking, and smart: a golden son in a sprawling Baltimore family whose wealth had been built...

www.yahoo.com

I am curious what he became involved in when he got laid off???

Probably took a gap year after the layoff to go see the world and decompress (and probably read a lot of radical books as well).

 

[lovesit]

Because he felt strongly enough about the injustice and wealth inequality in american society that he decided to act

It sounds more like mental illness.

 

[Kapua]

Now we know why nobody close to him noticed that he was missing around Thanksgiving. He'd pretty much disappeared long before then.

Edit to reference link: Why Luigi Mangione Went Dark in 2023 and Returned Transformed

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Another thing about my 9-year stint in a hospital billing department.

Over that time period I had many different roles. The last one I had before I left was responding to insurance companies requesting refunds for services that in most instances, they had authorized. That was my favorite role ever, thanks to California law and my knowledge by then that insurance companies will do ANYTHING to avoid paying what they are obligated to pay.

Insurance company: we believe we are due a refund because blah blah blah blah

Me: No, you authorized it and here is the authorization. You authorized it, you bought it!

I do not condone the murder of Mr. Thompson AT ALL, but I do hope this brings a spotlight to shine on how slimy and dishonest most healthcare "insurance" companies are. They want to be refunded even for services they authorized!

 

[Tiff23fr]

Probably took a gap year after the layoff to go see the world and decompress (and probably read a lot of radical books as well).

The word radical entered my mind..

 

[Vegasgrl]

Does anyone know for sure what caused the original back injury? He hurt it again surfing later. But, what happened to cause the original injury? Why has that been skipped in all of his writings and his friend's accounts of his past?

 

[Tower]

This article is spot on, IMO.

I mentioned before, I worked in a hospital billing department for 9 years, and insurance companies twist themselves into contortions to avoid paying for things that they are obligated to pay for.

This is an imperfect analogy, but imagine you have a lawyer on retainer to deal with your occasional legal issues.

You get into a car accident that is not your fault yet the other driver is suing you.

You call your lawyer, whose retainer you have paid faithfully for years, only to be told that car accidents are not covered by your retainer. Even though the contract you signed clearly says they are.

Your neighbor is arguing with you over where the line is between your and their property. You call your lawyer for assistance, only to be told that property issues are not covered by your retainer. Even though the contract you signed clearly says they are.

You're the victim of identity theft and you call your lawyer for help, only to be told that identify theft is not covered by your retainer. Even though the contract you signed clearly says they are.

By now you are enraged that you are not receiving the services that you have been paying for. So you look around to see if you can find a better lawyer, only to learn that nearly EVERY OTHER LAWYER behaves the same.

This is why people hate the health "insurance" industry so much. They pay their premiums in good faith, but when it comes time for the insurance company to reciprocate by paying for services they need, the company refuses.

Delay, Deny, Defend is sadly accurate. JMO based on my own experience.

Great article. The author teaches entrepreneurship at UPenn, the alleged murderer’s alma mater.

I would add my own perspective that quoting a lawyer in that article is ironic. Our healthcare system in the US is broken because some doctors, most insurance companies, most pharmaceutical companies and many attorneys are greedy and driven by profit alone. Unless we work on tort reform, cost stabilization and insurance overhauls, little progress will be made. The lobbyists for attorneys, insurance companies, big pharma and physician associations are all quite powerful, so our lawmakers will continue to do nothing to help us. I hope I’m wrong. Germany’s healthcare system works fairly well. There are efficient models that we could follow.

My opinion as a healthcare professional.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Does anyone know for sure what caused the original back injury? He hurt it again surfing later. But, what happened to cause the original injury? Why has that been skipped in all of his writings and his friend's accounts of his past?

It's only a matter of time before we find out.

 

[azure]

In 2024 he spent time in Japan, posting about life there in mid-April: “Modern Japanese urban environment is an evolutionary mismatch for the human animal. The solution to falling birthdates isn’t immigration. It’s cultural,” he wrote on X, calling for the country—and the world—to “encourage natural human interaction, sex, physical fitness and spirituality.”

Why Luigi Mangione Went Dark in 2023 and Returned Transformed

Something happened to Luigi Mangione in 2023. He had been the valedictorian of his private Maryland high school—Gilman, where annual tuition is currently $35,000—graduating in 2016. He was strong, good-looking, and smart: a golden son in a sprawling Baltimore family whose wealth had been built...

www.yahoo.com

I am curious what he became involved in when he got laid off???

Why do they think he posted that asinine post telling Japan how to fix its birth rate from Japan?

I was just talking to a friend about how incredibly simplistic that post is. I really do not like this arrogant guy. I'm not going to quote bc inappropriate but read the article for his deep thoughts.