NY - UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Midtown. #4

[stg]

If the employer has a “self funded” plan, this is correct. With self funded plans, the employer pays the actual amount of the claims (typically offset by stop loss coverage for extremely large claims).

Interesting. That is not the case with our employer paid plan. The insurer pays the claims, not the employer.

 

[MassGuy]

Catching up.....is it proven the monopoly money backpack is from the perpetrator?

Law enforcement hasn’t officially confirmed it (most of our info is from anonymous police sources).

That bag looks exactly like the one he was carrying, and is the same brand it was believed to be. It was also found in the general location they believed he must have dumped it.

Sources are saying it is believed to be the bag, but that’s all we’ve gotten.

 

[Inthedetails]

This is nuts! Picking my jaw up off the floor.

I'm sort of surprised LE let that news out. Now people really are going to be cheering for a killer and not for LE.

jmo

 

[BackInNewMexico]

I was wondering about this myself. I've been searching for what happened to the bike but haven't found anything. I would think he would only have to leave it unlocked on the street and someone would grab it.JMO

Does anyone know what happened to his bike? thanks

I think so too, and even if it didnt get stolen, he probably didn’t care if they found it. All they could get from it is his DNA (I’m guessing) which they have from other things (backpack, water bottle, wrappers etc).

 

[ElizaKate]

Now I expect the bike to be found spray painted with glitter and lodged up in a tree.

NYPD find the bike and "the wheels came off"..

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

This could be bad for NYC tourism as well. I have been there a few weeks before Christmas and the sidewalks and stores are packed with tourists. I really wouldn’t want to be there now, walking around, knowing a killer is on the loose.

The thing that was initially stressed is that this killer passed several pedestrians on the street and killed the one that was targeted. He could even have shot the lady that was standing outside the building but he didn't. He was there to kill a specific person.

JMO.

 

[Trino]

Source: Why top internet sleuths say they won't help find the UnitedHealthcare CEO killer
NBC news story. Click to confirm it is from NBC news.
(MSNBC has a similar story.)
Internet sleuths are refusing to help find the assassin:
"Those refusing to assist have included Savannah Sparks, a social media investigator with 1.3 million followers who has helped law enforcement track down suspects caught in viral videos.
Although Sparks, 34, has been tapped by law enforcement in the past to help train officers on how to find suspects online, according to emails seen by NBC News, she said this time she isn’t interested in helping police.

Sparks, who also works in health care as a lactation consultant and holds a doctorate of pharmacy, didn’t mince words when asked if her community was working to find the suspect in Thompson’s murder.

“Absolutely the f--- not,” she said."

Further:
"Another popular TikTok sleuth, thatdaneshguy, who has 2 million followers on the platform, made a video that was critical of the health care industry, saying that he wouldn’t try to identify the killer. “I don’t have to encourage violence. I don’t have to condone violence by any means. But I also don’t have to help,” he said."

 

[KooshBall]

Lol. He clearly expected that backpack to be found.

MSNBC is reporting that the backpack that the Midtown shooter ditched in Central Park was full of Monopoly money.

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This case is wild! I need it solved so I can get back to my life.

 

[keek]

I originally thought we might have one here. A serial killer who sees himself as some sort of “Dexter” vigilante justice type (I can hear the groans from here!)…

But I continue to think there is a group behind this, someone from overseas, and we may see other similar types of attacks on the wealthy/powerful.

I feel I will be surprised if he is a US person. He's very young appearing and we know how many young men are indoctrinated in a few of those countries that hate USA. Look at the bomber brothers at the Boston Marathon, lived here, came with parents, but..He seems too young to be a vigilante re the insurance industry himself. I feel a cold blooded murder and detached as well. Just feelings overall in reading/watching video. An awful thing no matter what. Yes, it's super high profile and well aware of killings 24/7 of innocents here by USA citizens. It just feels 'foreign entity' and appears so to me visually as well. ALL my own surmising. WE are the last that LE needs to give any information to, just the picture and movements in hopes people come forward, but if they feel they 'have him', we wouldn't be privy at this time.

 

[Elley Mae]

The more i look at the smiling photo it looks like the shoulders are padded.

Jmo

 

[getthefax]

I too think there is a group behind this, oscillating between an ideological group vs. a money mafia. And if ideological, I think the group would be in the US, and this guy is their hitman. But let’s see what comes out.

Many other theories in this thread also make sense.

So many pieces of this crime make sense, but so hard to assemble them all into a coherent whole. Here’s what’s been on my bingo card (well it’s a post it note, but …):

-we will never find the gun
-assailant got on a plane by midday Wednesday and is out of the US
-foreign assailant
-deep pockets financing this operation
-has elements of hackerism/do-gooderism
-extremely methodical planning
-assailant with no criminal record in the us or europe
-highly intelligent attacker
-no one will claim responsibility
-there are likely to be other attacks on other figures, but not in the same way and obviously not with the same assailant

Just my $.02 as far as what I’m thinking.

 

[SleuthJan]

Lol. He clearly expected that backpack to be found.

MSNBC is reporting that the backpack that the Midtown shooter ditched in Central Park was full of Monopoly money.

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Someone’s having a lot of fun!

 

[Sillybilly]

Please move over to Thread #5.

This thread will close in a few minutes.

 

[Let’s Bagel]

Interesting. That is not the case with our employer paid plan. The insurer pays the claims, not the employer.

Yes. Companies have both options depending on risk tolerance. A company can take the risk that employee claims will be low, which would save money versus the option where the insurer pays the claims (which is typically more expensive, but you know your annual cost in advance. It is a big risk though. A few pregnancies or bad illnesses and the model flips and becomes way more expensive.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Monopoly Money has me back to this filing:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.215359/gov.uscourts.mnd.215359.1.0.pdf

It seems the DOJ had concerns over United Healths acquisition of Change due to concerns of “unparalleled access to health data on every American.” Pg. 3 Sec 5

The acquisition went forward given the firewall plans and the “convincing testimony of the Sr Executives and their practices which weighs strongly against the governments position.”

Then the ransomware event..
IF Brian’s the CEO’s own phone was hacked to keep tabs on his whereabouts, does that send a message on the security of the data and the practices testified to?

I thought this was a joke at first. Nope, it's real. Wow.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nyc-mayor-says-suspect-identified-unitedhealth-executives-murder-ny-post-reports-2024-12-07/

<snipped & BBM>
A backpack resembling the one worn by the suspect has been recovered near a playground in Central Park, according to media reports. MSNBC said on Saturday that police examining the bag and its contents found a jacket and Monopoly money, but no firearm.

 

[EBW321]

When i did a background check to work in the public schools.

The words were not etched onto the bullets but written on with permanent marker.

New clues emerge as investigators hunt for the gunman who killed UnitedHealthcare's CEO

The gunman who stalked and killed the CEO of UnitedHealthcare in Manhattan used ammunition emblazoned with the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose."

apnews.com

Moo..

I feel like the night he left the hostel could have been for the fact that night was unavailable when he booked. They said he arrived on the 24th , stayed 4 nights left one night and checked back in. That would have been thanksgiving weekend I believe. So a high booking weekend people may have booked out way in advance. Needed to leave just that one night he couldn’t originally get.

So it became part of the plan… that would be the day/night / time … to go somewhere more private, possibly even rural for a night to target practice with the gun one last time or for the first time if he purchases it within the first 4 days he was in the city.

At some point I feel strongly he needed to handle the gun out of sight of others and leaving the hostel would have been needed for that.

Traveling with the gun from Atlanta wouldn’t have been all that difficult. However if he did acquire gun after arriving in nyc he had to have practiced firing it somewhere. And it’s unlikely he did that somewhere in the city given how noticeable of a gun it was and unique. Not your everyday gun range style gun. Would have been too memorable. To practice around others.

All MOO.

 

[SleuthJan]

Dare I say I’m loving this case. Created an account just to post about this.

 

[VAres67]

I feel I will be surprised if he is a US person. He's very young appearing and we know how many young men are indoctrinated in a few of those countries that hate USA. Look at the bomber brothers at the Boston Marathon, lived here, came with parents, but..He seems too young to be a vigilante re the insurance industry himself. I feel a cold blooded murder and detached as well. Just feelings overall in reading/watching video. An awful thing no matter what. Yes, it's super high profile and well aware of killings 24/7 of innocents here by USA citizens. It just feels 'foreign entity' and appears so to me visually as well. ALL my own surmising. WE are the last that LE needs to give any information to, just the picture and movements in hopes people come forward, but if they feel they 'have him', we wouldn't be privy at this time.

Idk I feel like the Monopoly money makes it personal to the shooter - he wanted to laugh at the police - or it’s part of the anti-industry message (but I haven’t figured out how)

 

[nao]

Moo... he is being paid well and has peoples hiding his identity, or he really just doesn't care..koo

 

[VAres67]

Moo..

I feel like the night he left the hostel could have been for the fact that night was unavailable when he booked. They said he arrived on the 24th , stayed 4 nights left one night and checked back in. That would have been thanksgiving weekend I believe. So a high booking weekend people may have booked out way in advance. Needed to leave just that one night he couldn’t originally get.

So it became part of the plan… that would be the day/night / time … to go somewhere more private, possibly even rural for a night to target practice with the gun one last time or for the first time if he purchases it within the first 4 days he was in the city.

At some point I feel strongly he needed to handle the gun out of sight of others and leaving the hostel would have been needed for that.

Traveling with the gun from Atlanta wouldn’t have been all that difficult. However if he did acquire gun after arriving in nyc he had to have practiced firing it somewhere. And it’s unlikely he did that somewhere in the city given how noticeable of a gun it was and unique. Not your everyday gun range style gun. Would have been too memorable. To practice around others.

All MOO.

The checking out on 11/29 was kind of an automated system error - the shooter hadn’t left that night.