TX - Jesus Mora Flores, 47, caught molesting child, beaten to death, 2012

[neesaki]

Best post ever!!!! And, yes... I would be still inflicting just enough pain to hurt this W@#%#$ but not enough to kill him yet, death is too easy!


I love what this man did = it says dont #$%% with my family !!!!


Swift justice!

Yep, I can think of several surgical procedures that would be appropriate, with no anesthesia of course.

 

[STANDREID]

Hopefully all adults concerned have taken a polygraph. Mark Winger killed a man he claimed was attacking his wife except he was lying and is now in prison for murder.

 

[Mysterylover]

What else was he supposed to do?

The pervert was molesting his little four year old who, BTW, had to go to the hospital!

If these creeps can't help themselves, they need to be taken out.

We have no room for them in society and they are predators who give nothing back.

gitana, What did 'they' expect him to do, stand there and do nothing as he called 911?
He saved his daughter as soon as he could.
He SAVED possibly other victims in the community.
He saved the TAX payers a hell-of-a big exxpense prosecuting and housing this freak.
I call that a HERO.

 

[RoseWhite]

I fight the urge to turn into a grizzly bear if someone makes my daughter cry. I would absolutely have attacked this man. Maybe not intentionally trying to kill him, but hell if it wouldn't be whatever necessary to keep my daughter safe.

 

[Etilema]

It does seem amazingly brazen for someone to grab a little girl right in front of her brother, then proceed to sexually assault her in her family home with family members outside, hearing her screams. Doesn't it? If this story is completely accurate, then it sounds like a good thing this guy isn't around to do it again.


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[PeteyGirl]

Hmm, been reading about this for a couple of days, and still wish nothing but good fortune to this father who simply did what any decent father would do.

I spend a ton of time in the domestic violence community, being a long term survivor, but reluctantly agreed that a victim who kills her perp face at least manslaughter (unless she was acutely defending herself). Even though I deeply understand and emotionally agree a perp deserves whatever the victim dishes out. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

For the father who punched to death a man he caught molesting his four year old daughter in the act, I hope our legal system is capable of the flexibility to clear him of any charges more extreme than assault, and then exonerate that due to circumstances. I realize the slippery slope this case creates, but there needs to be courage and respect for what and why this father did what he did within the legal system. Really, this is a rare case.

 

[Mama-cita]

It does seem amazingly brazen for someone to grab a little girl right in front of her brother, then proceed to sexually assault her in her family home with family members outside, hearing her screams. Doesn't it? If this story is completely accurate, then it sounds like a good thing this guy isn't around to do it again.


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Many child rapists are very brazen. That's part of the problem. Sick perverts cant control themselves. I read of a case here on WS just a few
Years ago of a guy grabbing a 2 year old in the dollar tree. She had wandered an aisle away from mom and grandma. By the time they found her he had her diaper off and was removing his pants. These people are beyond sick and evil. Thats why my new motto is dead pedophiles can't hurt children!

 

[krimekat]

Justice served! Who else is going to protect our children but parents . . . innocence lost!

MHO of course

 

[Tugela]

Not only that, but this happened at a party. Apparently, dad walked into the house or a room and found the guy doing this. There may have been other witnesses. But even if not, it makes no sense that he would murder someone in a house full of people. Did anyone see fighting beforehand? Does anyone know of any negative history between them? Apparently not because LE seemed sympathetic and the child was taken to the hospital so it appears something did happen to her.

I think under the circumstances if the father said that is what happened she would have been taken to the hospital no matter what, it wouldn't imply an injury.

Irrespective of if things happened the way the father said or not, I would think that the psychological impact on a 4 year old who witnessed a parent beat someone to death is massive. It is going to be a permanent scar. She will never be able to look at him again without knowing that if he lost it he could kill again. That is something all these folk cheering him on need to understand - by not controlling himself he might well have done far more damage to his kid's psyche than this other guy.

 

[Tugela]

Assumptions aside, just curious Tugela, if this was your baby girl and you walked in on her being molested, what would you do? TIA

I would have stopped him and called the police. We have laws, a police force and a justice system. I would be a shield for my child but beyond that I would let society's institutions do their job. I most certainly would not further damage my kid through my actions or lack of control.

The only exception of course would be if he refused to stop, but that probably would not happen. Those sorts of people typically run at the first sign of being caught.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think under the circumstances if the father said that is what happened she would have been taken to the hospital no matter what, it wouldn't imply an injury.

Irrespective of if things happened the way the father said or not, I would think that the psychological impact on a 4 year old who witnessed a parent beat someone to death is massive. It is going to be a permanent scar. She will never be able to look at him again without knowing that if he lost it he could kill again. That is something all these folk cheering him on need to understand - by not controlling himself he might well have done far more damage to his kid's psyche than this other guy.

I think she will need help processing what she witnessed but I think she will look at her Daddy as the ultimate protector.

She will know he loves her more than anything and that he will not let anyone hurt her.

This Daddy is awesome.
This Daddy handled his business and his daughter was saved because of it.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I would have stopped him and called the police. We have laws, a police force and a justice system. I would be a shield for my child but beyond that I would let society's institutions do their job. I most certainly would not further damage my kid through my actions or lack of control.

The only exception of course would be if he refused to stop, but that probably would not happen. Those sorts of people typically run at the first sign of being caught.

How can anybody possibly know what they would do until they are in the situation?

The thought of my child being half naked with a molester makes me think I'd try to kill him. But I don't know for sure.

I don't THINK I would ever just call 911 and hope for the best.

It's our job, as parents, to protect our children.

He did a great job at protecting his.

He is not the "bad guy" here.
The molester is.

Had that man not tried to do the unthinkable, he'd be alive today. It's HIS fault he's dead.

JMO

 

[mikeysmommom]

I think under the circumstances if the father said that is what happened she would have been taken to the hospital no matter what, it wouldn't imply an injury.

Irrespective of if things happened the way the father said or not, I would think that the psychological impact on a 4 year old who witnessed a parent beat someone to death is massive. It is going to be a permanent scar. She will never be able to look at him again without knowing that if he lost it he could kill again. That is something all these folk cheering him on need to understand - by not controlling himself he might well have done far more damage to his kid's psyche than this other guy.

Sorry but if that sick pedophile could have controlled himself the father would not have had to hit him.IMO That dad is a hero and I am sure his daughter will not live in fear of her father losing it,she most likely will be able to understand how much her father loves her.Losing it is when someone takes your parking space ,and you pull him out of his car and beat him to death."This father did what I wish more parents would do to their child's abuser.I know I would react the same way.The only good pedophile is a dead one IMO.

 

[Seek&Find]

I would have stopped him and called the police. We have laws, a police force and a justice system. I would be a shield for my child but beyond that I would let society's institutions do their job. I most certainly would not further damage my kid through my actions or lack of control.

The only exception of course would be if he refused to stop, but that probably would not happen. Those sorts of people typically run at the first sign of being caught.

Did you miss some links? The sheriff said he hit the man a few times while struggling to free/rescue his daughter, didn't think the guy would die from the injuries, and was remorseful that the guy died.

Being oppositional without reviewing the facts serves no purpose, IMO.

 

[Flutterby80]

I think under the circumstances if the father said that is what happened she would have been taken to the hospital no matter what, it wouldn't imply an injury.

Irrespective of if things happened the way the father said or not, I would think that the psychological impact on a 4 year old who witnessed a parent beat someone to death is massive. It is going to be a permanent scar. She will never be able to look at him again without knowing that if he lost it he could kill again. That is something all these folk cheering him on need to understand - by not controlling himself he might well have done far more damage to his kid's psyche than this other guy.

Or she will never be able to look at him again without knowing that he will protect her at all costs, and at the drop of a hat.

 

[kantoo]

I would have stopped him and called the police. We have laws, a police force and a justice system. I would be a shield for my child but beyond that I would let society's institutions do their job. I most certainly would not further damage my kid through my actions or lack of control.

The only exception of course would be if he refused to stop, but that probably would not happen. Those sorts of people typically run at the first sign of being caught.

So the guy runs off and daddy is left waving his daughter's panties at him.

What good comes from that?

 

[revampz]

Hi....I voted for probation......This is a hard one. I can understand definitely why this man lost it and just kept bashing this guy,, to get him away from his daughter and just pure anger. It is very justified,, I have told my husband that if my young sons were ever (yuk, wipe it from my mind) sexually abused by someone I would plan a way to make sure they suffered very very horribly.

The only reason I put probation is more a legal thing and a deterrent to would be copycats who may use a lie to bump of people etc. Basically he did kill someone which is against the law, so I think something legal has to take place. The probation I would put on him would be a more severe charge if he reoffends again with extreme violence.

I certainly do not think this guy should be charged with a murder or manslaughter. I hope I am explaining myself ok....my answer is more to do with anyone using this case for their own legal purposes in the future....

by the way I do agree, one less sicko to wreck lives. I have always said that they should all be put on an island together, like the lepers were years ago. Away from society until they die out and hopefully a lot of cycles can be broken as alot of pedophiles have been abused themselves.

Someone said above that the pedo is not the victim. This is the truth, this family are the victims and not only the little girl but also the father has to live for the rest of his life knowing he killed someone.

 

[jjenny]

It's not illegal in TX to kill someone to protect the victim from sexual assault. So what are they going to give the father probation probation for?

 

[GoBrewers]

Seek & find is right, people on both sides shouldn't post without at least reading/reviewing the evidence. Clearly she had to go to the hospital regardless, but when she was released and the sheriff made his statement, that should shift your opinion to the correct side. JMO. The sheriff KNOWS what happened to her or didnt happen physically because of what was done at the hospital, and i don't care if he is sorry or not, he did what he had to do. My question i guess would be, how many times did he hit him, and was anyone (besides son and daughter) present during the struggle. I voted that he doesn't recieve a medal, because im sure he wants to get out of the limelight and get this case closed asap, as his family has the need to move forward and get the help they require. I could care less about the rapists family, while i do feel pity for people indirectly involved. Just thankful names havent been released, and i haven't seen links to a comments section, full of arguing from both sides, as so many cases have had lately.

I don't care if he hit him 1 time or 1000 times, i just want to know how long it lasted and if he continued hitting him when he was down so i know how long he had to wait before he had to take his last breath hopefully realizing the man destroying him was deserving of every shot he took. Very sorry to the users here who have had to witness pedophiles (inevitably) re-offend after serving their time.

 

[MsFacetious]

For what it's worth...

When I was no more than 10 years old I got off the school bus in front of my house.
I was MAYBE 4 feet tall and 70lbs? (I'm only 5 feet tall and 100ish lbs now.)
The 150+ pound, 5'10 neighbor football player in high school started beating the crap out of me. (I still don't know what I did to make him mad.)

My Dad had his business in the house and was with a client when he looked out the window prompted by his secretary screaming.

In the 2-3 minutes it took the bus driver AND my Dad to intervene and stop the beating, I already needed surgery for internal bleeding.

The bus driver and my Dad yelled... both tried to pull him off, but my Dad was forced to hit the kid JUST to make him stop.
If my father had simply stayed in the house and called 911 or just yelled at the kid, it would have been much worse.

Now granted, I was not 4 years old. I understood what was happening completely. This kid easily could have killed me.

I do know that as a 10 year old, the incident didn't make me fear my father.
It assured me that if needed he would step up and protect us.

I would have felt abandoned if he hadn't stopped him.
He certainly may have seriously injured the kid if I hadn't been so seriously injured myself.

It is possible that her father HAD to hit the guy to make him stop.
I hope that she sees him as a protector... I think she will when she understands.

The football player who attacked me is in prison for rape and murder now.
I'm guessing that the two guys who protected me, made the right choice... and I think this father did too. :twocents: