TX TX - Joshua Davis, 18 months, New Braunfels, 4 Feb 2011 - # 2

[marycarney]

True, but wouldnt that have left some blood evidence for the dogs to track?
I think it is so odd that the dogs didnt pick up a scent.

While traumatic injuries are usually associated with blood loss, it is not necessarily EXTERNAL bleeding. Plenty of people die from internal bleeding - esp. if some internal organ is ruptured. There are plenty of spaces in the human body that can accumulate massive amounts of blood yet have no communication to the outside.

 

[lillys]

I have to think one or more persons must be failing some LDT's if the baby never left the house. Did something happen in the bedroom and is the 'friend' who left the house involved? This is a very strange case. I really doubt he wandered off and has not been found yet.

pip,
I think you asked good questions. Especially the one about if something happened in the house.
I'm beginning to fear that this little one won't be found.
I just don't know what to think.

 

[lillys]

While traumatic injuries are usually associated with blood loss, it is not necessarily EXTERNAL bleeding. Plenty of people die from internal bleeding - esp. if some internal organ is ruptured. There are plenty of spaces in the human body that can accumulate massive amounts of blood yet have no communication to the outside.

Think JonBenet Ramsey. No blood, no broken skin but a skull fracture over 6 inches long. So in moo a fracture or injury can happen with no blood.

 

[not_my_kids]

http://www.ci.new-braunfels.tx.us/DocumentView.aspx?DID=1594
The trash schedule again.

 

[Tuffy]

IIRC, Monday night on NG the mother said there were 2 doors. One that they used and one that she was certain wasn't used.

ANyone else remember that?

I do. She was certain that the other door hadn't been used because it was broken.

 

[SurfieTX]

I do. She was certain that the other door hadn't been used because it was broken.

Based on what I have seen in photos, I would assume the back door was the one used most often. In the photos linked above, you can see the people going up the stairs in the "back yard" near the truck and covered area. Plus, the vigil looks like it was held in the back yard too.

 

[Sooner Fan#1]

I still am having trouble with the little sweetheart being able to navigate those icy steps. Maybe be tried but fell and hit his head and died. Then whoever went out to smoke, found him dead and panicked and wrapped him in the tarp and put him in the bucket. But I tend to believe all of the adults. Although, there again, the time frame is just to short. :banghead:

 

[TxLady2]

It has been confirmed multiple times that the trailing dogs brought in initially were DOJ Bloodhounds from the prison. And yes, IMO those are NOT the right ones. It has also been stated multiple times that they could pick up a trail. This is not because there was no trail, but because they couldn't. There is a trail there, several of them, it was his house. KWIM?

SAR area search and HRD dogs were brought in later. Obviously the area search dogs have not found him. The one component we don't know anything about is the HRD dogs. They have not found his body, we know that. We do not know if they have been used in the house, to check the cars, to check all around the house and nearby houses. If they were used for these things we certainly don't know what if anything they found. There are only a few FEMA dogs on the list of dogs that they called out, and I don't know if they were actually on the ground or not, so I can't speculate as to the effectiveness of the dogs. It is entirely possible that the HRD dogs found evidence and we just aren't hearing about it.

If that baby has been in that house dead after this many days, they wouldn't need cadaver dogs to confirm it, anyone who walked in the house would smell it. A dead mouse will stink to high heaven after a few days... this child is much bigger than a mouse.

 

[belimom]

Does he mean one of these? I've never hear these called anything other than a knit hat/cap. In Canada, they'd say tuque.

There are also Muslim beanies that are normally knit. Some non-Muslims wear them just because they are fashionable. Also, Rasta beanies.

Sorry, for the confusion guys. I just tried to find an example of a beanie.

I was going to post a picture of the McStay boys who were described as always wearing "beanies" and you can see them in this link: http://www.helpfindmychild.net/gianni-mcstay

But I much prefer to look at The Edge. :rocker:

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Just saw this story this morning and I've been reading through off and on all day. Finally got to the end!

My first thought is something is very fishy here. I honestly don't see how a baby can go missing in a very small home with several other adults in it. There is likely not even a hallway -- so how could he disappear between one room and another??? Plus, with it being dark and cold, I find it highly unlikely he would have ventured out into that.

I, with many others, am very caught up with the whole door thing. It really reminds me of Haleigh's case. Locked/not locked - used/not used. And I know it's possible, but I really don't see this baby opening and exiting the door by himself. My almost 23 m/o niece cannot open my doors. (The doggy door on the other hand is a whole different story :crazy: ) Is it easy to open? Is it a knob you have to turn? Does it make any sound when opened? Does it slam shut? Would he have had to hold it open while exiting? I'd love for someone in the media to check it out - just as they did in Haleigh's case. Give us an up close and personal. A tour of the home would be great, too. To see the proximity of the rooms and where the adults were.

I'll have to do a little more reading. Praying this baby comes home safe!!!

 

[cluciano63]

So it LE still on the 2-mile radius for the search? Is it on-going? I hate to think of the baby out there in a field someplace while they work on forensics.

 

[sherbetjello]

Now, before anyone gets TOO excited... we had the CART team here for Ethan Stacy too and they knew immediately who was responsible for his disappearance. So that doesn't absolutely mean they believe Joshua was abducted... but it is interesting.

Poor Ethan though had his physical torment posted on Facebook.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

looks like Nancy will be coving Joshua tonight... ((thank you Nancy))

 

[sadnpod]

OMG.. Where is this baby? My grandson could open doors at 18 months, although his sister cannot. Just seeing them search the trash cans breaks my heart. I wonder if CART has checked the landfills? Im not overly surprised that the dogs have not found a scent (or that the handlers didnt see what the dogs did). Somer was murdered right on her path home and the dogs missed it.

Praying this baby is found NOW...

 

[Sooner Fan#1]

OMG.. Where is this baby? My grandson could open doors at 18 months, although his sister cannot. Just seeing them search the trash cans breaks my heart. I wonder if CART has checked the landfills? Im not overly surprised that the dogs have not found a scent (or that the handlers didnt see what the dogs did). Somer was murdered right on her path home and the dogs missed it.

Praying this baby is found NOW...

I know, I am just sick at heart over this one.

 

[Sooner Fan#1]

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

looks like Nancy will be coving Joshua tonight... ((thank you Nancy))

Thank you, Nurse! Do you know if the Astrologers have done a chart on Joshua?

Never Mind! I found it.

 

[belimom]

Thank you, Nurse! Do you know if the Astrologers have done a chart on Joshua?

I'm not Nurse... but, yes, they have...

 

[trigger]

Mom posted this on her FB page the other day...

having a prayer thingy today at 6:30 everyone is welcome...its 4 baby joshy

OK imo...weird. Its like she is having a party for him.

Opps forgot to link

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001127199068&sk=wall

 

[peeples]

thingy?????

 

[lillys]

I do. She was certain that the other door hadn't been used because it was broken.

THANKS Tuffy!