GUILTY TX - Kala Golden-Schuchardt, 28, Spring, 17 April 2012

[Isabelle]

Well if it was fairly recent then the baby she was supposedly carrying would have been nearly full term. I am not convinced that she ever had a miscarriage. In this type of cases the woman sometimes pretends she was pregnant without actually being pregnant.

There is a name for that jj, but I can't remember it. It's a psych thing.

ETA: it's called False or psychological pregnancy or pseudoceysis.

 

[Patty G]

Hmmm ... I refreshed the page and WS logged me out. I have been logged in for years. Crazy!

 

[Coldpizza]

Hmmm ... I refreshed the page and WS logged me out. I have been logged in for years. Crazy!

I want the ability to post without my light on! I guess I just have to stay logged on for years! I know your a retired and respected mod, but still waaahhh

ty for all you do btw:seeya:

 

[Shelby2]

Hmmm ... I refreshed the page and WS logged me out. I have been logged in for years. Crazy!

I would have forgotten my password!

 

[Shelby2]

I wonder if Dr.Drew will talk about this.

 

[HMSHood]

Expert: Women who kill for a baby are desperate, not crazy
http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2012/04/expert-women-who-kill-for-a-baby-are-desperate-not-crazy/

According to the American Journal of Nursing, there were 22 cases between 1983 and 2006 in which a mother was killed during her infant child’s abduction. In nine of the 22 cases, the perpetrator cut open the mother to remove the fetus from the womb. That crime even has a name: newborn kidnapping by cesarean section.

Dr. Phillip Resnick, director of forensic psychiatry at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, said killing a mother to steal a 3-day-old baby may express the same desperation as cutting open a woman to kidnap the child.

Some women who commit the crime are psychotic, and may have a delusion the child is actually theirs, but most are not, Resnick said.

“What they have in common is a desperate need for a baby,” he said. “It may be someone who is so self-centered they don’t care about anyone else and they’re willing to do whatever it takes.”

They are not insane. Lisa Montgomery was sentenced to death and is in federal prison.

 

[claudicici]

It just doesn't sit right with me that eye witnesses report a second person.....
I wonder if the sister is involved? it's just odd that the car was found at the sister's apartment and IMO the adoption story stinks....could she have talked her sister into "helping"?how can a woman be so desperate? how could she have thought for a minute she could get away with this???
I feel so bad for Kala's family,especially the dad,I hope he doesn't have to deal with worrying about loosing his children over some minor drug offenses on top of everything else

 

[audie]

Ok, I'm watching KPRC in Houston, the father does NOT have Keegan back, apparently he is with Kala's family. CPS told them they are looking into the home life, the dad's criminal background (?), and they're waiting for the results of a drug test they had him take earlier in the day. He has seen the child since this all happened, but now the baby and his 2 brothers are with Kala's family while CPS investigates the father's ability to care for all 3 kids. The oldest isn't his biological son.

Yes, IIRC, at the PC, they said he was returned to a family member. They didn't say to the dad, I dont think.

 

[Shelby2]

It just doesn't sit right with me that eye witnesses report a second person.....
I wonder if the sister is involved? it's just odd that the car was found at the sister's apartment and IMO the adoption story stinks....could she have talked her sister into "helping"?how can a woman be so desperate? how could she have thought for a minute she could get away with this???
I feel so bad for Kala's family,especially the dad,I hope he doesn't have to deal with worrying about loosing his children over some minor drug offenses on top of everything else

I think the car was found at her apartment and the baby at the sister's apartment, but I feel the same way-I thought more than one witness reported two people. She brought the baby to her sister's and the baby was there for 6 hours, is that right? And the sister didn't hear about any of this on the news? Nobody called and said "Did you hear what just happened??"
I can't figure that part out....

 

[audie]

So, was Verna so delusional that she believed that two AA's could have a caucasian baby? Can this happen?

Hmmmmmm

 

[audie]

I think the car was found at her apartment and the baby at the sister's apartment, but I feel the same way-I thought more than one witness reported two people. She brought the baby to her sister's and the baby was there for 6 hours, is that right? And the sister didn't hear about any of this on the news? Nobody called and said "Did you hear what just happened??"
I can't figure that part out....

IIRC, the car was found at the apts near the abduction site in Montgomery Co. The baby was found in Harris Co. I don't recall who lives where. I do remember one address for the perp being in Conroe.

 

[claudicici]

I thought the sister lived in the apartments? ....not sure though?

 

[helpful]

When I checked here this evening and saw how long Keegan's thread has become since he was found safe, I got a bad feeling...

Said bad feeling hasn't gone away after catch-up reading.

 

[claudicici]

what bad feeling?

....I keep thinking back to the mask a poster pointed out on the balcony of Verna's or her sisters apartment and someone pointed out it was a African fertility mask? ...and all the very sexual pictures of Verna? Did she value fertility and femininity more than anything?Did not having been able to carry her baby have such a tremendous effect I can't even imagine?Did it produce hate for anyone who was able to carry out a healthy baby?

 

[helpful]

When I mentioned a "bad" feeling earlier, I meant that when I saw how many posts there were since Keegan was recovered safely, I assumed something big had happened. Wasn't sure what, but expected that it would be bad.

Not sure if I can express this part well, but please bear with me. I find this case all the more disturbing now that it appears to have been a random act. There is just no reason that Kala shouldn't be home with her son tonight. She was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. I mean, there is no way she ever could have seen this coming. That's part of what gets to me - it could have been anyone, but Kala was the one who had the misfortune to cross paths with McClain. Why her? Why that day? The universe is an absurd place, to be sure.

At least if her murderer had been known to her, we could point to a reason, however sick, for what happened in that parking lot. The fact that it's completely senseless makes it hard to work through cognitively.

 

[jjenny]

Since this was in a public place hopefully they have some surveillance video to see if anyone else was with the suspect.

 

[BuzzieCat]

So, was Verna so delusional that she believed that two AA's could have a caucasian baby? Can this happen?

I guess it could if both AA parents had some Caucasian ancestors somewhere in their line. It would be unusual, I think, but could happen. I heard about two white parents who had a child who looked black - turned out they must have had some African precursors somewhere in their family. Then there was the couple who were each half AA and half Caucasian who had twin girls, one who looked black and one who looked white.

 

[jjenny]

I guess it could if both AA parents had some Caucasian ancestors somewhere in their line. It would be unusual, I think, but could happen. I heard about two white parents who had a child who looked black - turned out they must have had some African precursors somewhere in their family. Then there was the couple who were each half AA and half Caucasian who had twin girls, one who looked black and one who looked white.

That has to be as rare as hen's teeth. I really doubt that her fiancee was going to look at that baby and believe it was hers and his.
If she was planning to pass this child off as her bio child why didn't she kidnap an African-American baby?
It doesn't look like this plan of hers was very well thought out. This poor murdered woman was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Isabelle]

I guess it could if both AA parents had some Caucasian ancestors somewhere in their line. It would be unusual, I think, but could happen. I heard about two white parents who had a child who looked black - turned out they must have had some African precursors somewhere in their family. Then there was the couple who were each half AA and half Caucasian who had twin girls, one who looked black and one who looked white.

Buzzie, I thought that too, but just couldn't put it in writing. Genetics, ugh!

 

[Isabelle]

That has to be as rare as hen's teeth. I really doubt that her fiancee was going to look at that baby and believe it was hers and his.
If she was planning to pass this child off as her bio child why didn't she kidnap an African-American baby?
It doesn't look like this plan of hers was very well thought out. This poor murdered woman was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Somehow I think both sisters were in on this and the plan may have been to sell the baby. Maybe she thought she could get off claiming the miscarriage with possibility of insanity?? Makes no sense at all!