Found Deceased TX - Marisela Botello, 23, visiting Dallas from Seattle, 5 Oct 2020 *arrest*

[evilwise]

Wow Salt Lake City does not seem to me like the kind of place someone like this would flee to but I guess maybe that's why someone tipped off the FBI. I hope all the details on this come out now that the primary suspect is in custody and letting us know at least what the three's relationship is can't hurt the manhunt. Two years is awfully fast to go from Mormon mom to murder accessory attorney and Dykes nee Beltran is named and seems to act like a blood relative to the suspected perp but she sure doesn't look like one.

 

[Filly]

Wow Salt Lake City does not seem to me like the kind of place someone like this would flee to but I guess maybe that's why someone tipped off the FBI. I hope all the details on this come out now that the primary suspect is in custody and letting us know at least what the three's relationship is can't hurt the manhunt. Two years is awfully fast to go from Mormon mom to murder accessory attorney and Dykes nee Beltran is named and seems to act like a blood relative to the suspected perp but she sure doesn't look like one.

Looking back several posts ago there's an obituary which states Ms. Marano was married to a man who is LDS. They have connections to Utah, Colorado, NYC, and PA.

The Dykes woman is originally from Kentucky. Plus a bunch of other places over the years.

JMO one of them dimed him out.

 

[Filly]

So did he go AWOL from the Marines?

Little late on my part, but I wonder?

Can the USMC just arrest anybody?

I don't get the charge.

 

[Jsizzle]

Wow Salt Lake City does not seem to me like the kind of place someone like this would flee to but I guess maybe that's why someone tipped off the FBI. I hope all the details on this come out now that the primary suspect is in custody and letting us know at least what the three's relationship is can't hurt the manhunt. Two years is awfully fast to go from Mormon mom to murder accessory attorney and Dykes nee Beltran is named and seems to act like a blood relative to the suspected perp but she sure doesn't look like one.

Agreed! I would think he'd stick out like a sore thumb! So glad these 3 are behind bars!! RIP Marisela. How terrible

 

[SuziQ]

I think the details will be very disturbing when they come out.

There seems to be an uptick in murders involving 3 or more purpetrators. A pack mentality or something. Has anyone else noticed that?

 

[Niner]

I think the details will be very disturbing when they come out.

There seems to be an uptick in murders involving 3 or more purpetrators. A pack mentality or something. Has anyone else noticed that?

Yes - following a few cases with the 3 or 4 perps with this pack mentality...

 

[Filly]

So did he go AWOL from the Marines?

Little late on my part, but I wonder?

Can the USMC just arrest anybody?

I don't get the charge.

Little late on my part, but I wonder?

Can the USMC just arrest anybody?

I don't get the charge.

Answer is no but hold you for NSMS. So doubtful he ever served.

 

[Cryptic]

Two years is awfully fast to go from Mormon mom to murder accessory attorney....

I agree. But......

 

[Cryptic]

Two years is awfully fast to go from Mormon mom to murder accessory attorney

I agree.

Then again, Mormonism places a huge emphasis on converts. They then advance this emphasis by directly contacting prospective members. As with any religion with a convert emphasis, Mormonism has a rather high degree of convert turn over as converts drift away, lose interest etc.

Mormons are also known to provide potential converts or actual converts with varying degrees of assistance. This assistance can take the form of job placement, rent assistance, groceries etc.

As a result, I suspect that a certain number of Mormon converts are a "mixed bag". Some convert in a moment of personal crisis resulting from bad lifestyle choices. Others are drawn by Mormon generosity until they exhaust it.

All promise to leave bad life styles behind. But they could well be prone to start uhmm......"regressing" fast. A certain number leave Mormonism. Others never formally leave- but they do leave in spirit. These back sliding converts then continue as very nominal Mormons on the fringes of the religion.

 

[MoeInVA]

I agree.

Then again, Mormonism places a huge emphasis on converts. They then advance this emphasis by directly contacting prospective members. As with any religion with a convert emphasis, Mormonism has a rather high degree of convert turn over as converts drift away, lose interest etc.

Mormons are also known to provide potential converts or actual converts with varying degrees of assistance. This assistance can take the form of job placement, rent assistance, groceries etc.

As a result, I suspect that a certain number of Mormon converts are a "mixed bag". Some convert in a moment of personal crisis resulting from bad lifestyle choices. Others are drawn by Mormon generosity until they exhaust it.

All promise to leave bad life styles behind. But they could well be prone to start uhmm......"regressing" fast. A certain number leave Mormonism. Others never formally leave- but they do leave in spirit. These back sliding converts then continue as very nominal Mormons on the fringes of the religion.

Sure anytime you convert to a religion that is not passed down for generations it is less “sticky” than a multi- generational religion. But we do see evidence Nina was a Mormon for decades. Sealed in the church 30 years ago. This wasn’t just a passing fling. JMO. William Michael Marano | Cherubini McInerney Funeral Home

 

[Charlot123]

Wow Salt Lake City does not seem to me like the kind of place someone like this would flee to but I guess maybe that's why someone tipped off the FBI. I hope all the details on this come out now that the primary suspect is in custody and letting us know at least what the three's relationship is can't hurt the manhunt. Two years is awfully fast to go from Mormon mom to murder accessory attorney and Dykes nee Beltran is named and seems to act like a blood relative to the suspected perp but she sure doesn't look like one.

It seems to me that they all ran to different directions.

 

[Sincerely]

I am perplexed by the latest outcomes of this case. I’m wondering since none of the three are talking and there’s evidence of all three being in the home and the two women left the home together with her body (I think that’s what I read) that all three are being charged until one of them breaks and finally talks? I guess I just can’t imagine a mother and a son to be a part of killing a random stranger. I can see husband and wife, but not son and mother. This is just very bizarre. All of this is IMO.

 

[Niner]

I am perplexed by the latest outcomes of this case. I’m wondering since none of the three are talking and there’s evidence of all three being in the home and the two women left the home together with her body (I think that’s what I read) that all three are being charged until one of them breaks and finally talks? I guess I just can’t imagine a mother and a son to be a part of killing a random stranger. I can see husband and wife, but not son and mother. This is just very bizarre. All of this is IMO.

one case comes to mind of mother/son killers:


Sante Kimes - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Sante_Kimes
Sante Kimes was an American criminal who was convicted of two murders, as well as robbery, forgery, violation of anti-slavery laws, and numerous other crimes. Many of these crimes were committed with the assistance of her son, Kenny ... Despite the fact that Silverman's body was never found, both mother and son were ...

just googled - there are quite a few....

 

[Cryptic]

But we do see evidence Nina was a Mormon for decades. Sealed in the church 30 years ago. This wasn’t just a passing fling. JMO.

I agree.

Of course, Mormonism, just like any group of people has criminally inclined members as well as long term believers who have drifted from once active into nominal.

Even still, hard core criminality seems rarer with long term Mormons. My guess is that this is due to the very social aspect of the religion that builds higher levels of accountability to the family unit and then to society.

In the end, I was mentally betting heavily on the "recent mixed bag converts" possibility. That does not seem to be the case. Another indicator pof long term membership is one suspect fled not to say, Miami, but to Utah. Thanks for the good information.

 

[Cryptic]

Can the USMC just arrest anybody?

Answer is no but hold you for NSMS. So doubtful he ever served.

I am thinking there is a pretty good chance that he served.

As you stated, the Marines technically do not arrest wayward Marines as the Navy is the source of their arrest authority. I imagine that to wayward Marines under arrest, it makes little difference that say, Marines just detain him, while a naval officer places him into legal custody.

Likewise, a clerk updating warrant information into the master data base might not realize that Marines technically do not arrest anybody.

Instead, as the Army, Navy and Airforce arrest and prosecute their respective wayward members, he / she presumes the Marines must follow suit. They then input USMC instead of say, USN.

 

[Charlot123]

I agree.

Of course, Mormonism, just like any group of people has criminally inclined members as well as long term believers who have drifted from once active into nominal.

Even still, hard core criminality seems rarer with long term Mormons. My guess is that this is due to the very social aspect of the religion that builds higher levels of accountability to the family unit and then to society.

In the end, I was mentally betting heavily on the "recent mixed bag converts" possibility. That does not seem to be the case. Another indicator pof long term membership is one suspect fled not to say, Miami, but to Utah. Thanks for the good information.

I can absolutely see why some are attracted by LDS. However, there are rotten apples everywhere, and the percentage should likely be similar in all religious/ethnic/cultural groups; they just might be packaged differently. This case, if Nina, indeed, is found guilty of murder, only proves that people can not hide between any religion of philosophy, that at the end of the day, they should be accountable to themselves. I don’t care about the past lives of beliefs of these three, they are implicated in a hideous killing of a young woman, and this is all what matters.

 

[mlhenn]

Slain Woman Was Last Seen Alive Leaving Dallas Nightclub with Man, Who Is Now 1 of 3 Suspects

April 5
Three people have been arrested in connection with the death of a Seattle woman who was last seen alive leaving a nightclub in Dallas.

Charles Beltran, 31, was taken into custody in Utah on a capital murder charge on Friday in connection with the death of 23-year-old Marisela Botello Valadez. Nina Marano, 50, and 57-year-old Lisa Dykes were arrested in Florida last month.

Charges have yet to be filed in the three cases and it's unclear if any of the suspects has a lawyer.

3 Arrested in Murder of Missing Seattle Woman

April 7
Charles Beltran, 31, was taken into custody without incident in Utah on a capital murder charge on Friday in connection with Botello Valadez's death. Nina Tamar Marano, 50, and 57-year-old Lisa Jo Dykes were also arrested in Florida last month, according to a statement by the Dallas Police Department.

 

[iQuill]

Wow! Just wow! I hadn’t checked in on this case for a long time and just discovered Marisela’s body has been found and that three are arrested and charged with her murder. I’ve just caught up on the thread and ... yikes ... so confusing ... the connection of the perps to each other and then to LDS is ... well mind boggling for sure...waiting to hear details ... but quite sure they will be horrific! RIP innocent Marisela... prayers for her family and for her ex boyfriend who must be grappling with his own emotions over Marisela’s death. MOO

 

[Niner]

Monday, April 12th:
*Extradition Hearing (@ 9am ET) – FL/TX – Marisela Botello-Valadez (23) (Missing Oct. 5, 2020 while visiting ex in Dallas from Seattle, found deceased on Mar. 24, 2021 in a wooded area near E. Belt Line Rd & Post Oak Rd in Wilmer, TX) – only for *Nina Tamar Marano (49) (aka Nina Tamara Oliver, aka Nina Beltran) arrested (in Miami, FL on 3/25/21) & charged (3/25/21) with capital murder. $500K bond. In Miami-Dade County jail-Turner Guilford Knight Correctional Center.
3/25/21 Update: Extradition hearing on 4/12/21 @ 9am in Fla.
*Charles Anthony Beltran (31) arrest warrant out (3/25/21) & wanted for capital murder. Arrested (in West Jordan, UT on 4/1/21) & charged (4/2/21) with capital murder.
4/2/21 Update: Beltran has been arrested near Salt Lake City, Utah on 4/2/21. Beltran was in West Jordan, Utah, a suburb of Salt Lake City & that they took him into custody without incident with the help of the U.S. Marshals North Texas Violent Fugitive Task Force & the West Jordan Police Dept. Dallas police said Beltran is expected to be charged with capital murder. He is in the Salt Lake County jail & waiting extradition.
*Lisa Jo Ahmed Dykes (57) (aka Lisa Beltran, aka Lisa Ahmed) arrest warrant out (3/25/21) & arrested (in Orange County, FL on 3/27/21) & charged (3/27/21) for capital murder.
3/27/21 Update: Dykes was taken into custody in Florida. She will be extradited to Dallas. 4/1/21 Update: Waiver of extradition (fugitive) & complaint after arrest without warrant (fugitive).
Last seen on security footage appeared to show Botello leaving Select Start, a bar in the 2800 block of Elm Street, with a man about 1:15 a.m. Oct. 5 & that she last used her cellphone about 4 a.m. Her belongings are at her ex's house, no phone or banking activity. LE looking for POI Charles Beltrán. Beltran is not considered a suspect, but police want to speak with him because he was the last person seen with Botello. Botello missed her flight back to Seattle on 10/6/20.
3/24/21 Update: Botello's remains were found Wednesday (3/24/21) in a wooded area near E. Belt Line Road & Post Oak Rd. in Wilmer, Texas. A 49-year-old woman Nina Marano (aka Oliver aka Beltran) was arrested Thursday (3/25/21) in Miami, FL. in connection with the death of 23-year-old Marisela. Nina Tamar Marano faces a capital murder charge in the death of Valadez. The other suspects are Charles Beltran, 31 & Lisa Dykes, 57, (also known as Lisa Beltran & aka Ahmed) are still at-large & are currently wanted for capital murder charges in Botello's death, police said." A phone analysis showed the 3 suspects were allegedly with Botello the night she went missing & investigators found Botello's blood at a suspect's apartment, according to an arrest warrant affidavit. An analysis of phone records shows that the suspects were together at Dykes & Beltran's residence in Mesquite, the affidavit said. The analysis also shows that Dykes & Marano went to an area south of Dallas near Hutchins, which is densely wooded & close to several bodies of water & a concrete plant. After traveling to Hutchins, both Dykes & Marano traveled back to Dykes' residence. A later search of their residence showed that the carpet had been cleaned, but streaks of brown & red color were underneath the carpet, the affidavit said. Items seized were submitted for forensics analysis & confirmed human blood. Blood found on the carpet in what was believed to be Beltran's room was matched to Botello.

 

[Niner]

Marano - from Miami-Dade court

Seq. No. Date Book/Page Docket
7 04/12/2021 CLOSING JUDGE GLAZER, MINDY S

6 04/12/2021 CASE CLOSED

5 04/12/2021 MOTION TO QUASH-GRANTED

link: https://www2.miami-dadeclerk.com/cjis/CaseSearch.aspx


4/12/21 Update: Motion to quash-granted. Case closed by Judge Mindy Glazer.



Tried to look her up in the Dallas County court site - but it's down for maintenance - will try later to see if her case is there yet.

Don't really know "what" it means by "case closed" - maybe extradition is not happening re "Motion to quash" - ??