TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022 #2

[Curiousobserver]

And if the outing was with someone you had a romantic relationship with five or six months ago and it was a source of grief for your long term relationship, it would be really inappropriate, on top of being inappropriate anyway, IMO.

Understanding he is not currently a POI. Moo- The interview really did paint his personality in a dim light, and his judgement about that last encounter is beyond poor. MOO- there is a part of this we haven’t heard yet.

 

[SteveP]

Would KA have been careless enough to phone her father to wish him a Happy Father' Day today? How likely is it that LE is monitoring phone calls going into her home and family? IF they are, even a burner phone could give her away. JMO

 

[SMK777]

Would KA have been careless enough to phone her father to wish him a Happy Father' Day today? How likely is it that LE is monitoring phone calls going into her home and family? IF they are, even a burner phone could give her away. JMO

I hadn’t thought of this, but now that you mention it……do they need a warrant to trace the father or sister’s calls?

 

[SteveP]

I hadn’t thought of this, but now that you mention it……do they need a warrant to trace the father or sister’s calls?

I would think that they surely would have to have a warrant.

 

[SMK777]

I would think that they surely would have to have a warrant.

Do you think they have one?

 

[Spider92]

Do you think they have one?

Could be sealed. I think that's how they did it on The Wire.

 

[SteveP]

Do you think they have one?

I would think they likely do, but I have no legal knowledge that leads me to that thought. It's just a hunch that the US Marshals can get things a lot easier than many law enforcement agencies. JMO

 

[SMK777]

I would think they likely do, but I have no legal knowledge that leads me to that thought. It's just a hunch that the US Marshals can get things a lot easier than many law enforcement agencies. JMO

I think also the fact it’s been shown that she turned to family, and it’s a major fugitive case with a first-degree murder warrant would bolster their chance of securing one.

 

[SMK777]

Could be sealed. I think that's how they did it on The Wire.

What is that in reference to?

 

[Spider92]

What is that in reference to?

Sorry - TV series about 20 years ago, took place in Baltimore and LE relied heavily on wiretaps , approved by local judge, to gather evidence.

 

[CocoChanel]

ADMIN NOTE:
CS has NOT been named as a SUSPECT or a POI in this murder case.
He is not a subject to bash on this thread no matter what your personal opinion of him may be. He cannot be sleuthed nor speculated about.

Please keep the focus on the victim and the suspect in this case, and move on from gossip about CS.

 

[Charlot123]

That’s what I was thinking also - that KA wanted to corner both MW and CS and get explanations. This could have turned out much differently. I am thinking of the old movie “Two Girls and a Guy” with Robert Downey Jr. where the two women being played by a two-timing guy join forces and confront him to demand answers and apologies from the cad. Had KA not turned to violence, this could have had a triumphant ending with everyone still alive, and CS simply dumped by both. Instead, we have a bright young woman murdered. Sad story.

The fact that she checked the area the day before somewhat contradicts it. JMO.

 

[Charlot123]

I agree completely and share your surprise.

Because it had the stereotypical romantic ingredients (elite Dartmouth graduate champion cyclist, who was young and beautiful, allegedly murdered by a jealous educated professional GF, etc. over a male star cycling celebrity) , I had thought it would be all over mainstream media including Dateline/20-20 type feature shows.

But it seems to have gotten very little attention (much less than the Summer Wells case, for example). Nobody I mention it to has heard of it.

Perhaps, wrong sport?

It’s not golfing, tennis, or basketball. It is gravel cycling. Plus, the newspaper with their “love triangle” has altered the perspective, and wrongly so. Very sad.

 

[Cryptic]

But most people, despite having probably worse financial means and less family support than KA, manage to finally get out, taking their extreme anger and pain and coping until time starts to heal the wounds.

I wonder what exactly a good psych evaluation would diagnose in this case...

Me too- well, perhaps not a psych evaluation, rather just a review for other incidents of aggression by KA. Toxicity can work both ways.

In the end:

- KA is physically attractive, with plenty of potential dating options. So, less chance of "I cant compete- and now young Miss Hardbodie has taken my only viable romance" emotions.

- The relationship was not long term and did not produce children. Thus, less likely to generate the intense emotions stemming from: "The rival is a threat to family and a home existence that I have known for decades".

- KA has viable income options independent of her boy friend. In addition to real estate, KA could well be the brains behind the " trendy RV's for trendy cyclists" business. So.... less chance of a thought process of: "Losing the relationship also equates to an irreplaceable loss of income, social status etc."

- No build up to the extreme violence. There is no evidence that KA contacted the victim with demands or pleas to break the relationship. So.... less chance for a line of thought of: " Well, I gave her a final chance- now its war".

Yet..... KA still apparently commits murder despite her dating / social options, lack of children, business skills etc? Something might be deep seated with her.

 

[SMK777]

Me too- well, perhaps not a psych evaluation, rather just a review for other incidents of aggression by KA. Toxicity can work both ways.

In the end:

- KA is physically attractive, with plenty of potential dating options. So, less chance of "I cant compete- and now young Miss Hardbodie has taken my only viable romance" emotions.

- The relationship was not long term and did not produce children. Thus, less likely to generate the intense emotions stemming from: "The rival is a threat to family and a home existence that I have known for decades".

- KA has viable income options independent of her boy friend. In addition to real estate, KA could well be the brains behind the " trendy RV's for trendy cyclists" business. So.... less chance of a thought process of: "Losing the relationship also equates to an irreplaceable loss of income, social status etc."

- No build up to the extreme violence. There is no evidence that KA contacted the victim with demands or pleas to break the relationship. So.... less chance for a line of thought of: " Well, I gave her a final chance- now its war".

Yet..... KA still commits murder despite her dating / social options, lack of children, business skills etc? Something might be deep seated with her.

I agree. There was no logical reason to believe murdering MW was her only option, or any option at all. Plus she had great support from her sister and father, and as you note, money, business savvy, looks and youth. She had traveled the globe and was not some poor, disenfranchised outsider. Her overreaction speaks loudly to some real psychological wounding from childhood.

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Perhaps, wrong sport?

It’s not golfing, tennis, or basketball. It is gravel cycling. Plus, the newspaper with their “love triangle” has altered the perspective, and wrongly so. Very sad.

Good points. The Sun does seem like one the most tabloid-like MSM sources. Unfortunately if it wasn't for their reporting, plus that from some Canadian cycling journalists, there would be few, if any, updates to find.

 

[Curiousobserver]

I agree. There was no logical reason to believe murdering MW was her only option, or any option at all. Plus she had great support from her sister and father, and as you note, money, business savvy, looks and youth. She had traveled the globe and was not some poor, disenfranchised outsider. Her overreaction speaks loudly to some real psychological wounding from childhood.

I am still in the camp where I think KA allegedly murdered MW...

I agree with the whole argument above about how strong her emotional consequences would have been if her boyfriend were cheating.

 

[Sundog]

I don't doubt that KA murdered MW, but I do wonder about the defense of "crime of passion" and if an attorney could use that defense to lower the charge against KA. Having the gun with her works against this and speaks to premeditation, but I wonder if there are cases where this has been argued effectively, in spite of having a weapon on her person.

I do want justice for MW, but am keeping an open mind regarding KA's defense, until we hear more from KA or her lawyer, when and if it gets to that stage.

 

[Cryptic]

Her overreaction speaks loudly to some real psychological wounding from childhood.

Or, maybe from being willfully aggressive towards any body who crosses her for any reason. One does not need to be from say, the inner city to have inner city attitudes.

 

[SteveP]

I don't doubt that KA murdered MW, but I do wonder about the defense of "crime of passion" and if an attorney could use that defense to lower the charge against KA. Having the gun with her works against this and speaks to premeditation, but I wonder if there are cases where this has been argued effectively, in spite of having a weapon on her person.

I do want justice for MW, but am keeping an open mind regarding KA's defense, until we hear more from KA or her lawyer, when and if it gets to that stage.

As far as trying to negotiate first degree murder charges down, KA is doing herself no favors by staying on the run from authorities. It would be in her best interests to hire a good attorney, which she should be able to afford, based on what has been reported, and get that attorney to call the US Marshals, and arrange for her immediate surrender. JMO