TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022

[SMK777]

I've been reading along but not commenting. My thoughts from the beginning have been that she really has three choices. She can continue to run, turn herself in, or sadly she may have considered ending her life. I hope she chooses to turn herself in.

Yes, I’ve thought that, too. If she gets exhausted and starts to think of all she’s lost, and the chances of doing life without parole, if she manages to escape the death penalty in Texas….it may seem like too much. I also hope she turns herself in. If she has any contact with her father, he may convince her to do so……

 

[Herat]

Below is an interesting quote from the above article.

I am unsure what, if any, inside knowledge the quoted professor possesses, but they seem to believe that there was no pre-fabricated get-away plan (e.g., fake IDs or passports).

It doesn't really matter whether it was pre-meditated or not.

She needs to turn herself in and deal with the consequences, or face an exiled life, always looking over her shoulder, never able to see her family and friends again.

By now it's apparent she isn't saving any relationship with CS, that's toast.

She can't be the nice, smart, handsome, independent woman she once was.

It the eyes of LE and the court, she is a despicable cowardly murderer, until proven otherwise.

 

[jash]

Is she likely to do as they say and turn herself in? ​

US Marshals’ message to Texas love triangle murder suspect​

US Marshals’ message to Texas love triangle murder suspect

The U.S. Marshal leading the search for a woman accused of killing a cyclist as part of a love triangle dispute said her capture is inevitable.

www.newsnationnow.com

According to the Deputy U.S. Marshal interviewed, they have no evidence that she boarded another flight. He said they "lost the footprint in the sand" after LaGuardia.

He said they have generated 37 tips, a lot of which are valuable. Seems low to me but it just takes one good one I guess!

 

[Sundog]

It doesn't really matter whether it was pre-meditated or not.

She needs to turn herself in and deal with the consequences, or face an exiled life, always looking over her shoulder, never able to see her family and friends again.

By now it's apparent she isn't saving any relationship with CS, that's toast.

She can't be the nice, smart, handsome, independent woman she once was.

It the eyes of LE and the court, she is a despicable cowardly murderer, until proven otherwise.

I think it will matter if it was pre-meditated or not. I think her attorney will argue that the charge should be reduced to voluntary manslaughter as a reduced charge to murder, and s/he will say that KA acted in the heat of passion.

What is a “Heat of Passion” Murder? | Chambers Law Firm

In many cases, voluntary manslaughter is offered as a reduced charge to murder. For example, if a person has been charged with murder, the prosecutor might offer a plea deal for voluntary manslaughter if he admits to the killing. Alternatively, if the case goes to trial, the jury might find that the defendant is guilty of voluntary manslaughter (a lesser offense) instead of murder.

 

[Sundog]

Is it possible that she flew to NY city because she knew of a good lawyer for her situation in the area of NY city or nearby?

 

[jash]

Is it possible that she flew to NY city because she knew of a good lawyer for her situation in the area of NY city or nearby?

Anything is possible but if she has a specific reason for going there (beyond it just being a hub to literally the rest of the world and maybe a place she can blend in) my money would be on her having a close personal contact in the area whom she trusts.

 

[SMK777]

Is it possible that she flew to NY city because she knew of a good lawyer for her situation in the area of NY city or nearby?

That’s a possibility, certainly. But you’d think he or she would have call the US Marshals office by now, to make plans for her to turn herself in, because she landed in NYC quite some time ago— May 14, which is now 16 days ago…..

 

[SMK777]

Anything is possible but if she has a specific reason for going there (beyond it just being a hub to literally the rest of the world and maybe a place she can blend in) my money would be on her having a close personal contact in the area whom she trusts.

But this contact if he/she exists, is at risk for obstruction of justice felony charges, and aiding a fugitive from justice. Would you be willing to risk that, if a close friend of yours contacted you while committing unlawful flight to avoid prosecution for murder?

 

[Sundog]

That’s a possibility, certainly. But you’d think he or she would have call the US Marshals office by now, to make plans for her to turn herself in, because she landed in NYC quite some time ago— May 14, which is now 16 days ago…..

Would the attorney have to inform LE that s/he received a phone call consultation with KA and they didn't meet in person? And if the attorney advised KA to turn herself in and offered to arrange this but KA turned the attorney down regarding this offer, does the attorney have any obligation legally to do anything else? Also, if the attorney didn't ask KA where she was calling from, she wouldn't be witholding any information, I don't think.

 

[SMK777]

Would the attorney have to inform LE that s/he received a phone call consultation with KA and they didn't meet in person? And if the attorney advised KA to turn herself in and offered to arrange this but KA turned the attorney down regarding this offer, does the attorney have any obligation legally to do anything else? Also, if the attorney didn't ask KA where she was calling from, she wouldn't be witholding any information, I don't think.

I think because there’s a federal warrant out now for “unlawful flight to avoid prosecution” for murder, an attorney would in fact be obstructing justice not to inform LE of the call, even though they didn’t know her location or if she refused an offer to turn herself in. In fact, she may be avoiding lawyers because of this.

I’m not positive about these facts, but I’d be really surprised to find out that they weren’t obligated to inform LE of any contact.

 

[jash]

I haven't heard anything about her phone. Curious if she had it with her until NYC at least or if she ditched it for a burner before leaving TX.

I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but here's her LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaitlinmarmstrong/

She has worked for a lot of banks, mostly as a mortgage consultant.

 

[SMK777]

@Sundog KA is committing a crime in progress, “unlawful flight to avoid prosecution”.​

Crime-Fraud Exception​

If the communication was made for the purpose of committing a crime or fraud, or in the furtherance of fraud or other crime, it is no longer protected by attorney-client privilege. So if the client is trying to use the attorney's services to commit or cover up a crime or fraud, the attorney is not only permitted, but in some instances required, to disclose information to prevent the crime or fraud.

Can My Lawyer Turn Me In? - FindLaw

A lawyer can only adequately represent her client if she knows all the facts. On the other hand, a client may be wary of telling his attorney everything, for fear of it reflecting poorly on his case or that the attorney will turn around and spill the beans to prosecutors or the judge.

www.findlaw.com

 

[Sundog]

But this contact if he/she exists, is at risk for obstruction of justice felony charges, and aiding a fugitive from justice. Would you be willing to risk that, if a close friend of yours contacted you while committing unlawful flight to avoid prosecution for murder?

A sister might do that. We can't sleuth family members, but I wonder if she has a sibling or close relative in NY.

 

[Mariposa]

I think it will matter if it was pre-meditated or not. I think her attorney will argue that the charge should be reduced to voluntary manslaughter as a reduced charge to murder, and s/he will say that KA acted in the heat of passion.

What is a “Heat of Passion” Murder? | Chambers Law Firm

In many cases, voluntary manslaughter is offered as a reduced charge to murder. For example, if a person has been charged with murder, the prosecutor might offer a plea deal for voluntary manslaughter if he admits to the killing. Alternatively, if the case goes to trial, the jury might find that the defendant is guilty of voluntary manslaughter (a lesser offense) instead of murder.

I don’t think this any manslaughter charge going to fit, if so any jilted lover could kill under this theory and escape murder raps. Premeditation can be in terms of seconds.

In this case I predict there will be evidence KA formed this intent before MW even landed in Austin. From what we know from the affidavit, there is a chain of events showing a motive going back months of KAs friend saying KA was shaking in rage and said she wanted to kill MW, and the gun acquisition around that time (January), and KA making a hostile “back off he’s mine” type call to MW, and the relatively recent Instagram following of MW by KA. Not in the affidavit but alluded to in MSM stories have been possible use of Strava to stalk MW in Austin, and a report (Daily Mail) that KA was caught on a neighborhood Ring camera (reportedly the same one that recorded her Jeep right before the murder) biking down Maple Street the day before the murder. I wonder if KA was just waiting to see if CS got together with MW in Austin and once she somehow realized that indeed happened it was go time. I do wonder if KA was sure that CC, the friend MW was staying with was out of the apartment at the time. Honestly I wonder if KA might have killed both women if they both happened to be present.

IMO murder not manslaughter is the right charge for sure.

 

[Sundog]

I haven't heard anything about her phone. Curious if she had it with her until NYC at least or if she ditched it for a burner before leaving TX.

I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but here's her LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaitlinmarmstrong/

She has worked for a lot of banks, mostly as a mortgage consultant.

Interesting that her LinkedIn page says that she worked in Bali, Indonesia.

 

[Sundog]

I don’t think this any manslaughter charge going to fit, if so any jilted lover could kill under this theory and escape murder raps. Premeditation can be in terms of seconds.

In this case I predict there will be evidence KA formed this intent before MW even landed in Austin. From what we know from the affidavit, there is a chain of events showing a motive going back months of KAs friend saying KA was shaking in rage and said she wanted to kill MW, and the gun acquisition around that time (January), and KA making a hostile “back off he’s mine” type call to MW, and the relatively recent Instagram following of MW by KA. Not in the affidavit but alluded to in MSM stories have been possible use of Strava to stalk MW in Austin, and a report (Daily Mail) that KA was caught on a neighborhood Ring camera (reportedly the same one that recorded her Jeep right before the murder) biking down Maple Street the day before the murder.

IMO murder not manslaughter is the right charge for sure.

Her lawyer might argue that the lying text she received from CS sent her over the top, that she had the gun in her car where she usually kept it, and that she planned just to have a conversation with MW but then when she got CS's text she lost it. Anyway, not saying I agree with this defense, just saying that it is possible her attorney might use it.

 

[Herat]

Interesting that her LinkedIn page says that she worked in Bali, Indonesia.

Bingo

Indonesia does not have an extradition treaty with the US.

LE definitely should be looking for those white jeans in Indonesia. Plenty of places to work as a yoga instructor, although that would seem to be a hand-to-mouth existance.

Unless she does have access to a lot of funds squirreled away.

In any rate, she is going to have to live out the next 50 years of her life in exile, unless she wants to clear her name and and explain what happened. She will always have to wonder who is in her yoga classes. Who is knocking on her door.

Until then, she is a fugitive wanted for murder (IMHO) and we shouldn't be ameliorating this fact.

 

[jash]

Interesting that her LinkedIn page says that she worked in Bali, Indonesia.

Wow, I totally missed that. So she was/is a partner in a yoga studio in Bali? Hmm.

Edit: When I click on the link, it says it's in Singapore.

 

[Herat]

Her lawyer might argue that the lying text she received from CS sent her over the top, that she had the gun in her car where she usually kept it, and that she planned just to have a conversation with MW but then when she got CS's text she lost it. Anyway, not saying I agree with this defense, just saying that it is possible her attorney might use it.

I would argue that she had many non-lethal options to deal with a potentially unfaithful partner.

One of which was just walking away from a loser, and not committing murder.

 

[Sundog]

I would argue that she had many non-lethal options to deal with a potentially unfaithful partner.

One of which was just walking away from a loser, and not committing murder.

That probably wouldn't be a good argument for her attorney.