TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022

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  • #981
… she went to EWR to do one of six things.
1) Board an international flight. This was May 18 - was her warrant issued May 18? Possible she made it out before her passport got flagged? If she did this they know where she went.
2) Board a domestic flight. Texas DL not yet flagged at TSA? Higher likelihood that she could get through with a fake drivers license and ticket, but even then, TSA has pictures of her and facial recognition and they know where she went and if she boarded.
3) Rent a car. This is the one that intrigues me. I think any fake drivers license, anyone’s credit card, a very long-duration booking, she would’ve ridden a shuttle bus to most of the lots, low probability she’s on camera if she never entered a terminal …
4) Take a shuttle bus to NYC or Philadelphia, Coach USA or similar. She would’ve been memorable to a driver appearing without at least a carry-on.
5) Take NJ Transit. Difficult without an app and a cc.
6) Stood on the curb and got picked up by someone else.
I would bet 60/40 on “took a vehicle to Philly or NYC”. Uber, too - any phone number can be used for Uber.

One possibility no one has mentioned- she may pass for a man, especially if hair is cut shorter. Look at her straight shoulders on some photos. She is not tall, but with hair cut short and colored dark, she could pass for a cute guy. JMO. At the time when one can change name like nothing, it is by not changing it on all documents that a person can be lost, or acquire dual identity. You don’t need type I forgery. So, I would not bet that one has to look for a female. I wonder if at this moment, even gender is questionable.
 
  • #982
Whew! Just catching up here. Watch out, Kaitlin. If the US Marshals don't nab you, someone in WS is bound too.

Y'all are good. Now, about the reward money....

MOO
 
  • #983
The cruise ship idea could be super risky for her, though. What is the US's relation regarding criminals with places like Bermuda, Bahamas, etc., if she were to get on a cruise ship and land in one of those places? Could US authorities be waiting for her there? She'd be trapped.
I believe that US law enforcement relations with Bahamas is strong. If (key word) she was identified as a US fugitive, my guess is that like you suggested, US law enforcement would be welcomed in and would be waiting for her.

Even if she were not identified as a fugitive, she may get an unwelcome reception in Bermuda as a "drift in". Bermuda is a self governing territory of the United Kingdom. Even UK citizens need residency permits to live there. Similar to US Native tribes, self governing UK territories have strict rules regarding who is a member of say, the Bermudan community.

I once read that as an island, Bermuda has limited resources. Likewise, islanders also fear getting priced off their own island. So.... residency permits are given out only on very rare occasions and illegal "drift ins" with expired visas or ship jumpers were said to be identified and booted fast.

Bahamas is and independent country and maybe a little more lenient, but my impression that other UK self governing islands (Turks and Caicos, BVI etc) all take the Bermudan road regarding residency- or more accurately, lack thereof.
 
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  • #984
I would bet 60/40 on “took a vehicle to Philly or NYC”. Uber, too - any phone number can be used for Uber.

One possibility no one has mentioned- she may pass for a man, especially if hair is cut shorter. Look at her straight shoulders on some photos. She is not tall, but with hair cut short and colored dark, she could pass for a cute guy. JMO. At the time when one can change name like nothing, it is by not changing it on all documents that a person can be lost, or acquire dual identity. You don’t need type I forgery. So, I would not bet that one has to look for a female. I wonder if at this moment, even gender is questionable.
I just don’t understand why she would bother going to the airport at all if she was just going back (?) to NYC or heading to Philly, as NY Penn Station is right there and, while covered in cameras, is still less intensely surveilled than the airport.
 
  • #985
Apple Watch or Fitbit tracker? Tracked to an end location and then poof?
I'm not sure how they work.
 
  • #986
I just don’t understand why she would bother going to the airport at all if she was just going back (?) to NYC or heading to Philly, as NY Penn Station is right there and, while covered in cameras, is still less intensely surveilled than the airport.
I think she left the country from another airport. You fly to one airport, and leave the country via another one. With a few “legs” of the travel, by the time the Marshals sort it all out, she has dissipated somewhere in the world.
I think she has prepared it well, although I don’t understand, why. Unless she felt that CS was the only man for her. It happens. I don’t believe she killed herself. I think now, assuming she has lost him, she will totally change her personality, everything.
 
  • #987
I think she left the country from another airport. You fly to one airport, and leave the country via another one. With a few “legs” of the travel, by the time the Marshals sort it all out, she has dissipated somewhere in the world.
I think she has prepared it well, although I don’t understand, why. Unless she felt that CS was the only man for her. It happens. I don’t believe she killed herself. I think now, assuming she has lost him, she will totally change her personality, everything.

I do not believe there is any danger that KA has, or will try to commit suicide, or do any self-harm, even if she feels her capture is imminent. Something about her gives me a Jodi Arias kinda vibe. She will run as long as she can, but when finally caught, I believe she thinks that she can talk herself out of a murder charge, and if she can't, and does get charged, and she will, then she can surely convince a jury that she just went to the apartment MW was staying at to have a civil chat with the woman who was trying to steal her bf, and something transpired that elevated the situation to a heated exchange, and she was forced her to shoot her in a moment of self-defense. I also do not believe she has cut her curly long mane, because surely a jury could see that no one who looks like her would be a cold-hearted killer. JMO
 
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  • #988
I do not believe there is any danger that KA has, or will try to commit suicide, or do any self-harm, even if she feels her capture is imminent. Something about her gives me a Jodi Arias kinda vibe. She will run as long as she can, but when finally caught, I believe she thinks that she can talk herself out of a murder charge, and if she can't, and does get charged, and she will, then she can surely convince a jury that she just went to the apartment MW was staying at to have a civil chat with the woman who was trying to steal her bf, and something transpired that elevated the situation to a heated exchange, and she was forced her to shoot her in a moment of self-defense. I also do not believe she has cut her curly long mane, because surely a jury could see that no one who looks like her would be a cold-hearted killer. JMO

Your observations are very deep. Yes, she is like Jodi Arias. Her insecurities are of a deeper, slightly different, type, and I believe she had fallen hard for CS, though.
However, I do not believe she will be caught. I wish I were wrong.
 
  • #989
I do not believe there is any danger that KA has, or will try to commit suicide, or do any self-harm, even if she feels her capture is imminent. Something about her gives me a Jodi Arias kinda vibe. She will run as long as she can, but when finally caught, I believe she thinks that she can talk herself out of a murder charge, and if she can't, and does get charged, and she will, then she can surely convince a jury that she just went to the apartment MW was staying at to have a civil chat with the woman who was trying to steal her bf, and something transpired that elevated the situation to a heated exchange, and she was forced her to shoot her in a moment of self-defense. I also do not believe she has cut her curly long mane, because surely a jury could see that no one who looks like her would be a cold-hearted killer. JMO

Your observations are very deep. Yes, she is like Jodi Arias. Her insecurities are of a deeper, slightly different, type, and I believe she had fallen hard for CS, though.
However, I do not believe she will be caught. I wish I were wrong.
 
  • #990
I found the audio from CNN (better than nothing). Jump ahead to 36:40.


[Randi Kaye speaking:]

They are pouring over all the security camera video, both inside and outside the airport, trying to see if maybe they can spot her, possibly even wearing a disguise at the airport.
This seems somewhat significant if it came directly from LE. So they know 1) she was there and 2) she was dropped by private car. However, they do not know 1) what she may have been wearing nor if she was disguised and 2) when exactly she was dropped. (Incidentally this likely confirms Nancy Grace was wrong). What kind of transportation situation could result in the known facts combined with the unknown facts?

This really sounds more like a person providing a reliable tip to LE rather than some verifiable fact they have learned. maybe from where she stayed or someone that figured out they had been around her until she left sometime on the 18th. It might stand to reason that she raised no suspicion to someone until the news of the warrant being issued made it to NYC (or wherever she was) and caught the attention of people in her proximity. which arguably could have been a day or two after the 17th.
 
  • #991
I read that she was dropped off in a "private car" - would an Uber count as a private car? Of all the Ubers I've taken in NYC, only one had a video recording of us passengers set up and that was the slightly more expensive UberXL service. So IMO it's not all that likely but still very possible for footage to exist if she took an Uber. And, of course, your Uber driver does see your profile picture in the app, but she could easily change that.

edit: typos and grammar
hitchhiking...

She could live off the land pretty easily. Plenty of willing citizens offering food, shelter, rides, cash etc. Most real estate types are "good with people"
 
  • #992
I think she left the country from another airport. You fly to one airport, and leave the country via another one. With a few “legs” of the travel, by the time the Marshals sort it all out, she has dissipated somewhere in the world.
I think she has prepared it well, although I don’t understand, why. Unless she felt that CS was the only man for her. It happens. I don’t believe she killed herself. I think now, assuming she has lost him, she will totally change her personality, everything.
She is smarter than they gave her credit for. She may have 2 fake identities because for domestic travel all you need is an enhanced ID version of a driver's license. LE would need to verify the identity of every "single" passenger on the manifest of the first leg, then again for the second leg before they knew which was her and where she went. She would have days to go somewhere. Genius. Even more diabolical if she scanned her ticket at the gate and then left the airport.

By now they know the ID she used however.
 
  • #993
I love that you posted this, and humor me because I’m going to play devil’s advocate for a minute, not because I think you’re wrong but because I’m tinkering with a theory.
I think she feels like this is mission accomplished (posted that a long time ago here. Maybe back in May).
I think she felt like all involved got what they deserved and she was judge jury executioner.
I think she is strutting. I think if she never sees CS again she could care less. She had months of percolating rage, like a pressure cooker, inside her. She’s a remarkably anonymous and chameleonlike human. Consider this: we have heard from her dad. We have heard from one high school friend. Beyond that, crickets,
Can I ask you,
If you were suspected of capital murder at 35 years old,
And there were some facts to support that you weren’t Ted Bundy or whatever. That there were extenuating circumstances that certainly don’t justify what you’re accused of, but most women can kinda sorta see a tiny bit of where you were coming from,

… would your mother be on TV
… would your best friends be on TV
… would your former colleagues be on TV
… would people who know you well and can describe you in healthier times be showing up?

I think you’d be hard pressed to get my mother off NBC if this were me. In her mom jeans. Loving the youknowwhat out of me.

There’s so much missing in this story.

ETA: several verb tense violations that could not be allowed to stand, I was taught grammar by Italian Catholic nuns and they still whisper in miniature on my shoulder.
@caradana...hammer and nail here, well stated.
 
  • #994
I would bet 60/40 on “took a vehicle to Philly or NYC”. Uber, too - any phone number can be used for Uber.

One possibility no one has mentioned- she may pass for a man, especially if hair is cut shorter. Look at her straight shoulders on some photos. She is not tall, but with hair cut short and colored dark, she could pass for a cute guy. JMO. At the time when one can change name like nothing, it is by not changing it on all documents that a person can be lost, or acquire dual identity. You don’t need type I forgery. So, I would not bet that one has to look for a female. I wonder if at this moment, even gender is questionable.
True. And she’s 5’8, so that’s actually a bit on the tall side, which would make it easier for her than for women who are 5’1 or 5’3.
 
  • #995
I found the audio from CNN (better than nothing). Jump ahead to 36:40.


[Randi Kaye speaking:]

I spoke with Deputy US Marshal [BF] and he told me that they are still trying to figure out who dropped Kaitlin Armstrong at Newark airport. He said that this was not some sort of mass transit drop; this was a private vehicle so they're still trying to figure that out. And of course they've searched the database. Nobody with her name shows up on any sort of outbound flight from Newark so they're trying to figure out if possibly she was traveling using a fake ID or maybe just using the airport to throw investigators off her trail and possibly left the airport on foot or by some other means. They are pouring over all the security camera video, both inside and outside the airport, trying to see if maybe they can spot her, possibly even wearing a disguise at the airport.
Average daily passengers at Newark Liberty per May 2021 statistics is around 41,600. AMOO
 
  • #996
Apple Watch or Fitbit tracker? Tracked to an end location and then poof?
I'm not sure how they work.
Surely KA would have removed the apps or got a new phone before she went on the lam? She is said to have used the cycling app Strava to track CS and MW, so she’s savvy about tracking apps.

JMO
 
  • #997
One possibility no one has mentioned- she may pass for a man, especially if hair is cut shorter. Look at her straight shoulders on some photos. She is not tall, but with hair cut short and colored dark, she could pass for a cute guy. JMO.

I also do not believe she has cut her curly long mane, because surely a jury could see that no one who looks like her would be a cold-hearted killer. JMO

RSBM

I also have a strong feeling that KA would only consider cutting her hair as a last resort. This whole event (IMO) was triggered by insecurity and ‘competition’ over a man / tied up in ‘attractiveness’ - and KA’s lovely long wavy red hair is clearly a signature part of her look. IMO, she’d hide it under a hat, or potentially use (non permanent?) color but she’s not cutting it off into a pixie unless she’s completely out of options.
 
  • #998
Are they all required to have cameras? Or personal preference as they don't use company cars, but rather, their own.
I’m assuming that for their own liability and protection they’d use cameras (altercations with passengers, false accusations of robbery, rape, etc.).
 
  • #999
This really sounds more like a person providing a reliable tip to LE rather than some verifiable fact they have learned. maybe from where she stayed or someone that figured out they had been around her until she left sometime on the 18th. It might stand to reason that she raised no suspicion to someone until the news of the warrant being issued made it to NYC (or wherever she was) and caught the attention of people in her proximity. which arguably could have been a day or two after the 17th.
Do you think it may have been some man she deliberately flirted with and told a sob story to, to gain sympathy and assistance? And then when he saw the news, realized he’d been played by a fugitive and phoned the tip line?
 
  • #1,000
This seems somewhat significant if it came directly from LE. So they know 1) she was there and 2) she was dropped by private car. However, they do not know 1) what she may have been wearing nor if she was disguised and 2) when exactly she was dropped. (Incidentally this likely confirms Nancy Grace was wrong). What kind of transportation situation could result in the known facts combined with the unknown facts?

This really sounds more like a person providing a reliable tip to LE rather than some verifiable fact they have learned. maybe from where she stayed or someone that figured out they had been around her until she left sometime on the 18th. It might stand to reason that she raised no suspicion to someone until the news of the warrant being issued made it to NYC (or wherever she was) and caught the attention of people in her proximity. which arguably could have been a day or two after the 17th.

This got me thinking that perhaps KA was staying with someone who didn't know she had committed the murder. If they had seen the news, then perhaps KA convinced them it was all a mistake, she didn't do it, but everyone thought she did, so she had to get away to figure out how to handle the situation, etc. But then when the warrant came out on the 17th, the person she was staying with said they had to call LE so she had to leave, otherwise they would be in big trouble. KA understood, and perhaps asked to be dropped off at Newark airport which would give her some transportation options. So as soon as KA was dropped off, the person called LE with their tip. It could have been a friend or a family, who knew they could not help KA any longer now that an official warrant was issued for her arrest.

ETA: changed date of when the warrant came out to May 17th
 
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