TX - Multiple Dallas Police Officers shot during downtown protest, 7/7/16

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Cariis, for some reason it's not letting me reply with a quote, but we have not heard word yet. We think we may have seen one of them in a quick panning camera in front of the 7/11 last night, but it was so quick and even rewinding and pausing we couldn't be certain. And when I say these are clients, my husband is good friends with the mother of the daughter, my MIL visited the couple(who both are dpd) yesterday late afternoon and they were going in at 7. They want to both be FBI, but are putting in their dues. The woman's father(another good friend to our family) asks her to quit her job every day. I feel selfish praying for extra safety for them, I know there are so many friends and family of officers praying for the same thing and we won't all get the answer we want.
 
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I keep thinking that this was a deliberate organized disruption of what was a PEACEFUL comingling of mournful citizens and police in UNIFIED exercise of their rights and duties. It was an attack on unity, for the purpose of destroying it. I'm seeing home-grown terrorism.......I guess we'll find out. So very tragic, and frightening. JMO

I hope this acts as a wake up call for all sides. We are not enemies. Like the police chief said, the police there last night were there protecting and upholding the rights of the protestors, and things were going great. I think it's important to remember, the actions of a sick few do not dictate the whole. A bent ear doesn't hobble the horse. We can do this together.
 
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I hope this acts as a wake up call for all sides. We are not enemies. Like the police chief said, the police there last night were there protecting and upholding the rights of the protestors, and things were going great. I think it's important to remember, the actions of a sick few do not dictate the whole. A bent ear doesn't hobble the horse. We can do this together.

I do not agree with the violence. But I can see why some are totally fed up with feeling like they are not comsidered to be human beings- black people. I imagine it gets to you after awhile. Knowing that your life does not matter.

When you have nothing, you have nothing to lose. I pray we can go a different direction.

The snarky racist views towards people of color is going to kill us all.
 
  • #405
Not sure what truth there is in this, but I heard that the police there last night didn't wear helmets/armor and dressed down to not look threatening to the protestors. jmo idk
 
  • #406
Not sure what truth there is in this, but I heard that the police there last night didn't wear helmets/armor and dressed down to not look threatening to the protestors. jmo idk

Where did you hear this?
 
  • #407
How sensationial --media. The big take away this AM is that they wanted to kill white people.

Well of course they wanted to kill white people. I really cant imagine any of us last night were not fully aware of that in the context of the events this week.

. Saying that over and over all day today, is gonna be the deal, and distant last nights events from the reasons behind the sad fact that the Black Lives Matter, for evolving - a relentless prelevance of evidence - cell phones - that LE, in far greater numbers than most of us were aware, of LE excessive use of force, and killing human beings that were not being threatening to LE.

That is the story here. The focus in terms of govt should be in imprlemting a training program, paid for by federal govt, educating police department on racism, how it impacts cops out in the field, while the justice department should be charging these members of LE with murder, and incaracerating them.

We have seen over the past several years, how embedded racisim is in many police dept across our so called enlighted nation.

Media needs not to lose its focus- AA males being killed by those that are suppossed to protect and serve all members of the area the taxpayers are paying them to do so

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  • #408
Cariis, for some reason it's not letting me reply with a quote, but we have not heard word yet. We think we may have seen one of them in a quick panning camera in front of the 7/11 last night, but it was so quick and even rewinding and pausing we couldn't be certain. And when I say these are clients, my husband is good friends with the mother of the daughter, my MIL visited the couple(who both are dpd) yesterday late afternoon and they were going in at 7. They want to both be FBI, but are putting in their dues. The woman's father(another good friend to our family) asks her to quit her job every day. I feel selfish praying for extra safety for them, I know there are so many friends and family of officers praying for the same thing and we won't all get the answer we want.

Praying for your friends, Dogface. We, too, have a good friend at the DPD and are in the process of checking on his status. This is an unbearably sad day and I'm too heartbroken for words today.
 
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Los Angeles Times (Verified account)
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#Breaking: Dallas gunman is ID'ed as Micah X. Johnson, 25. No known criminal history or ties to terror groups.


Tom Winter @Tom_Winter (Verified account)
BREAKING: A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News that the dead Dallas shooter is believed to be Micah Xavier Johnson, age 25.
 
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Not sure what truth there is in this, but I heard that the police there last night didn't wear helmets/armor and dressed down to not look threatening to the protestors. jmo idk

Mayor said that those things had been seen as a sign of escalation. So basically our cops wanted to make protestors comfortable, and then this happens. I hope at future events people are understanding of why cops will likely be dressed with more gear.
 
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Praying for your friends, Dogface. We, too, have a good friend at the DPD and are in the process of checking on his status. This is an unbearably sad day and I'm too heartbroken for words today.

Prayers for your friend as well, this is truly unbelievable. DPD is inherently good, people forget how big and how populated the area they safekeep truly is.
 
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Los Angeles Times (Verified account)
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#Breaking: Dallas gunman is ID'ed as Micah X. Johnson, 25. No known criminal history or ties to terror groups.


EDIT: Not to be confused with a well known baseball player.

TBH I'm more interested in his military history if he has one. How did he learn how to do what he did last night? Can you possibly teach yourself to be a sniper, especially such a skilled one?

Ugh. I hate saying "skilled" but I don't know what other word to use. "Effective" is even worse.
 
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I do not agree with the violence. But I can see why some are totally fed up with feeling like they are not comsidered to be human beings- black people. I imagine it gets to you after awhile. Knowing that your life does not matter.

When you have nothing, you have nothing to lose. I pray we can go a different direction.

The snarky racist views towards people of color is going to kill us all.
"I do not agree with the violence..."""BUT"""?????!!!!!!!


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Mayor said that those things had been seen as a sign of escalation. So basically our cops wanted to make protestors comfortable, and then this happens. I hope at future events people are understanding of why cops will likely be dressed with more gear.
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  • #417
I'm over the political correctness of all this. If you are a criminal with a long rap sheet, showing disregard for the law, gangbanger, drug dealer, or whatever offenses, it shows lack of respect for the law and LEO. They, no matter what race, are a danger to approach, especially if they are 'carrying'. They do NOT want to go back to jail or have a probation violation. I'm not speaking just of the latest case, but all of them. Did ANY ONE of them have a clean record? But yet they were all 'good people' and not a threat. Really? I wouldn't want to meet any one of them in a dark alley. White, Black, Yellow, Red, Purple. Doesn't matter. The times they are a changin'. and NOT for the good. Black lives matter is MAKING it more of an issue. Pretty much every (NOT ALL) video i've seen over the last few years was ESCALATED because of resistance. Then quietly or not, the family is paid WAY more then they could ever have dreamed of... Don't see this going on with white criminals shot. Or just your innocent person shot by a criminal. How many people may think "hey, i'm gonna end up back in jail anyway... let em shoot me and my family becomes millionaires'? I've HEARD kids *late teens* talking about this. How sick is it that they think this way? YES, there are bad cops. But if this keeps up, its going to be harder and harder to get GOOD cops because they will be too worried about coming upon this situation. Then all we will get are the ones that are power hungry and aggressive. You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in todays world. And i come from a family of LEO. Luckily all retired. Bending over backwards when the race card is played is ridiculous. Its being taken advantage of in so many ways now that i'm ashamed of this country. You want equality... then make EVERYTHING equal. I call a big ol' BS on Black Lives Matter wanting 'equality'. Its about this generation and the 'its all about ME ME ME' thought process. I DESERVE more, NOW. I don't have to work for it, i want it GIVEN to me, no matter what.' BS. Work for it like the rest of society has to do. Obey the law, be respectful of other people, educate yourself, work hard, and you too can be like most in this country. Living paycheck to paycheck, barely able to afford healthcare, and working 2 jobs. I'll have a log more respect for you by TRYING to be a decent human being, instead of taking the 'easy way' by drug dealing, stealing, violence etc.
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TBH I'm more interested in his military history if he has one. How did he learn how to do what he did last night? Can you possibly teach yourself to be a sniper, especially such a skilled one?

Ugh. I hate saying "skilled" but I don't know what other word to use. "Effective" is even worse.

I can't believe that he did this alone!!! What's going on? JMO
 
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Time after time in these events, we have found officers lie, write false reports etc, and dont get fired just for that in and of itself.

.....previous cases of police killings saw no charges against the officer. So when have police faced charges?


In 2013, Russell Rios, 19, fled a Wal-mart in Conroe, Texas, after allegedly stealing about $50 (£32) in goods from the store.


An officer, Sgt Jason Blackwelder, responded and chased Rios on foot to a wooded area. Blackwelder left the woods, Rios did not.
Blackwelder later said in his report during a struggle Rios had choked him .... prosecutors said evidence from the scene contradicted that account, including the fact that Rios had been shot in the back of the head.
convicted in a jury trial.


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Juries - both grand juries and trial juries - tend to "give every possible benefit of the doubt" when it comes to police officers that curruption went on for years before the cell phone arrived.

It has blown my mind, the last couple of years, how many cops are free despite video tape of their crimes.

The FBI does record "justifiable homicides" by police officers. It does not for the opposite - just think about the implications of that reality in and of itself.

.. research found 41 police officers were charged with murder or manslaughter between 2005 and 2011. In the same time period, recorded several thousand justifiable homicides.
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..... process by which police officers face charges depends on the state. ........... are charged by grand juries, others are charged directly by police through arrest warrants.
In Baltimore in 2008, Police Officer Tommy Sanders .... said Hunt assaulted him and ran off. After giving chase, Sanders told the court he saw Hunt reach for something.
Hunt in the back.... witnesses said Hunt had never assaulted the officer, nor did he reach into his coat while running. Hunt was unarmed. found not guilty.
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Media captionHow one shooting sparked a movement

Sanders himself is black.


And in at least one case, when prosecutors do not get an indictment, they try again.
Last September, Jonathan Ferrell, 24,.....
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it ended with Mr Kerrick shooting at the 24-year-old 12 times, 10 of the shots hitting Ferrell.

First he was found innoent (lost the cut and paste!) .... convened a second grand jury, which did indict.

...... benefit appears to extend to the sentencing as well.
After his conviction, Blackwelder was given five years probation for the crime. He had faced up to 20 years based on the charge.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30339943
 
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