Found Deceased TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, Fort Hood military base, items left behind, 22 Apr 2020 #2 *arrests*

[oviedo]

sorry for those choppy posts but they really were just answering "I can't comment" - "it's not my jurisdiction" - hopefully @Seattle1 will find us a transcript -
JMO

 

[ImDone]

From the attached article:
When Guillen arrived at work, Robinson was already inside the armory room working. Guillen reportedly spotted photos of Aguilar on his phone and confronted him about having an affair with someone married to a former soldier.
At that point, an argument ensued, and Robinson allegedly told Guillen that he wouldn’t let her ruin his military career. He then grabbed a hammer and bludgeoned her to death, Kwaham said, leaving blood all over the armory room.

The information in this article is cited as being shared by the family Atty Kwaham as related to her by the US Army Criminal Investigation Unit.

BREAKING: Fort Hood soldier Vanessa Guillen bludgeoned dead with hammer in armory room, family lawyer says [EXCLUSIVE]

I know I heard that first guy who spoke say It was a rumor that "Robinson was Pfc. Guillen superior/supervisor and that they worked in different buildings.

 

[Jackielee09]

I’m so sickened. Lies from the get go from military. Haven’t even watched it all. the family has said over and over they were not contacted by military. The family contacted them. I believe the family. Military said “day 1 we were in touch with family”. Bullllllllllll

 

[muppethead]

Is anyone thinking of A Few Good Men and a cover up for something bigger? Because if it isn't I am worried about the state of our armed services. MOO.

 

[Boxer]

"I'm not aware of the internal procedures..." 2 star guy

Well ***
READ THEM

There is no need for leaders like this.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

what does that mean @dixiegirl1035 ? i've heard of a 2 star general, but just wondering what that means exactly. (explain it like i'm 5 lol).

Was just an observation and I have no idea at all what 2 stars mean on the sleeve. That's why I commented as so many here know of such. With a high profile case... I have no idea at all in the military the level of someone with two stars has.

 

[ImDone]

I know I heard that first guy who spoke say It was a rumor that "Robinson was Pfc. Guillen superior/supervisor and that they worked in different buildings.

Matter of fact he said they worked in 2 different buildings that are beside each other.

 

[Seattle1]

I've read that CA was released on bond but didn't a presser participant deny this? Huh???

 

[ImDone]

Is anyone thinking of A Few Good Men and a cover up for something bigger? Because if it isn't I am worried about the state of our armed services. MOO.

I say we start a petition to change Ft. Hood name to "DA HOOD".

 

[freeinformation]

I've read that CA was released on bond but didn't a presser participant deny this? Huh???

Yes, he said she is still in custody according to latest information

 

[dixiegirl1035]

From the attached article:
When Guillen arrived at work, Robinson was already inside the armory room working. Guillen reportedly spotted photos of Aguilar on his phone and confronted him about having an affair with someone married to a former soldier.
At that point, an argument ensued, and Robinson allegedly told Guillen that he wouldn’t let her ruin his military career. He then grabbed a hammer and bludgeoned her to death, Kwaham said, leaving blood all over the armory room.

The information in this article is cited as being shared by the family Atty Kwaham as related to her by the US Army Criminal Investigation Unit.

BREAKING: Fort Hood soldier Vanessa Guillen bludgeoned dead with hammer in armory room, family lawyer says [EXCLUSIVE]

Just coming back and reading most recent first .

WHAT?

"
From the attached article:
When Guillen arrived at work, Robinson was already inside the armory room working. Guillen reportedly spotted photos of Aguilar on his phone and confronted him about having an affair with someone married to a former soldier.
At that point, an argument ensued, and Robinson allegedly told Guillen that he wouldn’t let her ruin his military career. He then grabbed a hammer and bludgeoned her to death, Kwaham said, leaving blood all over the armory room."




'How did this information come out? He died and without talking, she never talked.... was this from a person who witnessed the entire thing to give this detail.. Those are only options for this statement MOO

swimmmmmmmmmmmmmmming up to see! (is this true or MSM twist?)

 

[MsBetsy]

Called my senator.

Why are these people not following their procedures.
From false roll calls to having the last person to see her before she went missing MEET with the family, to letting the family find out devastating things in the media its a steaming mess.

Did I hear him say that he is not familiar with what the procedure is for keeping track of who goes in and out of the armory room or what the process is for the roll call?

 

[kaen]

That was a terribly frustrating press conference. I understand that the two people in the room are dead and we won't know for certain what happened but.....

How can it be that Gen. comes to a presser where there will be questions and doesn't know how she was accounted for?

How can it be that there was a large amount of blood that didn't tip them off to Robinson? And, if they knew about his potential role, why was he free on base?

How can it be that the CID guy says that he is not sure who the entity is that can speak about the second suspect?

AND, on sexual harassment...

With so many people lying about sexual harassment of this soldier, what are the ramifications to the people who lied?

They have so many issues. There are enough soldiers being killed or committing suicide but they seem clueless as to the issues that are present.

I don't think this case is going to be able to be hushed up in the way so many others are.

 

[Deleted member 718]

"Investigators said they have found no evidence that Robinson sexually harassed her and he was not her superior officer, despite social media rumors to the contrary."

Investigators identify suspects, found no connection yet between Vanessa Guillen’s disappearance and sexual harassment | KETK.com | FOX51.com

The denial of sexual harassment and/or assault seemed to be the focus of the presser. I expected to hear more about a soldier being bludgeoned to death and dismembered at Fort Hood. Right?

 

[MassGuy]

I think this all going to be quite simple, and it does only involve these two suspects.

AR finds himself alone with Vanessa, and makes a move. She rebuffs him, and he then decides he has to kill her. Vanessa was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong man.

AR kills her, hides her body, cleans up, and contacts his girlfriend for help.

He lucked out because he didn’t work in the same building, and wasn’t in her chain of command. This gave him enough time to get her body out of there, as CID didn’t become involved until the following day.

 

[Herat]

"Investigators said they have found no evidence that Robinson sexually harassed her and he was not her superior officer, despite social media rumors to the contrary."

Investigators identify suspects, found no connection yet between Vanessa Guillen’s disappearance and sexual harassment | KETK.com | FOX51.com

The denial of sexual harassment and/or assault seemed to be the focus of the presser. I expected to hear more about a soldier being bludgeoned to death and dismembered at Fort Hood. Right?

A loyal soldier being bludgeoned to death and dismembered INSIDE a secured building in a large military base.

YEAH. I sure expected to hear much more about this.

 

[Boxer]

If Robinson worked in a different building how did he get in the armory?

MOO think this is the scenario.
A buddy seargent set VG up to go to an empty work place to get raped by Robinson who was laying in wait outside the armory. She opened door and he forced in.

 

[PatLaurel]

If she is divorced as they're saying she possibly stills have an ID for her and kids so yes it's possible that she could go onto base at any given time with an ID card otherwise she would have had to go get a visitor's pass at the main gate. But, she is not AUTHORIZED to be in a Arms Room or any other Gov't facility outside of the PX (Post Exchange), Commissary, and the Hospital or Doctors office. To even work in the Arms Room you need a security clearance.

IF CA was still married she would have a dependent ID and be granted access to the base. Entering the armory would depend on who all was working that day. Just my opinion

Worked in arms room 1 year and at bliss...for MPs around 1999 it would be easy. Our arms room was in our building 6 ft from front door. First room on the left. Outside is the parking lot and the street. Anything can get in. We worked 24/7 and especially at night or on weekends the place was dead. I spent my 12 hours on call, I took the keys with me especially off hours. A lot maybe has changed.

Thank you. I was just trying to understand if a jealous girlfriend could enter the base and kill her partner's beautiful co-worker. And, apparently, given CA's previous marital status, she could... SOME

MOO JMO SOME

 

[kaen]

Just coming back and reading most recent first .

WHAT?

"
From the attached article:
When Guillen arrived at work, Robinson was already inside the armory room working. Guillen reportedly spotted photos of Aguilar on his phone and confronted him about having an affair with someone married to a former soldier.
At that point, an argument ensued, and Robinson allegedly told Guillen that he wouldn’t let her ruin his military career. He then grabbed a hammer and bludgeoned her to death, Kwaham said, leaving blood all over the armory room."




'How did this information come out? He died and without talking, she never talked.... was this from a person who witnessed the entire thing to give this detail.. Those are only options for this statement MOO

swimmmmmmmmmmmmmmming up to see! (is this true or MSM twist?)

I would imagine it is from the civilian who has been arrested as an accomplice. Not necessarily true or correct.

 

[Jackielee09]

Yes, he said she is still in custody according to latest information

If they want a riot. That SHOULD cause one.
No bond!! Ugggg