Found Deceased TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, Fort Hood military base, items left behind, 22 Apr 2020 #2 *arrests*

[Seattle1]

Grrrrrr -- can anybody hear the questions being asked at presser?!!

 

[oviedo]

No one seems to want to stand at the podium.

exactly - it's NOT ME.....

so disappointing. We've been spoiled by the Sheriff in Mollie's case, Mackenzies case - DA May - but this? I have zero confidence in all these men. sigh.
JMO

 

[carbuff]

I don't think it's about sex or her personal relationships. Not sure what I do think it was about, though...stealing government property maybe.

 

[oviedo]

I feel like I now have more questions than I had before the press conference.

As this guy wasn’t in her chain of command, and worked in an adjacent building, then motive is still up in the air.

I now believe he found himself with an opportunity, and made sexual advances towards Vanessa. She rebuffed him, and he killed her in a rage.

yes I'm thinking this is a possibility but they could be more forthright about it - it just feels like they are reluctant but maybe that's the Army thing?
IMO

 

[irridescentmoon]

exactly - it's NOT ME.....

so disappointing. We've been spoiled by the Sheriff in Mollie's case, Mackenzies case - DA May - but this? I have zero confidence in all these men. sigh.
JMO

I wish I could do the questions. I would be grilling that General. He is THEIR leader, and he has to take responsibility good/bad for what happens under his command. I'm so emotional right now.

My only hope is that they are investigating her direct leadership, and that's why they aren't talking. JMO.

 

[MassGuy]

exactly - it's NOT ME.....

so disappointing. We've been spoiled by the Sheriff in Mollie's case, Mackenzies case - DA May - but this? I have zero confidence in all these men. sigh.
JMO

It’s the format. Everyone stands back and reporters ask the question to whoever belongs to the particular agency they have a question for. This is standard.

 

[Seattle1]

David Gonzalez[URL='https://twitter.com/DavidGonzKHOU']@DavidGonzKHOU[/URL]
Fort Hood Maj. Gen. Scott Efflandt says, "Vanessa Guillen is loss to everyone... She's part of our family as well." #FindVanessaGuillen #VanessaGuillen #KHOU11
12:24 PM · Jul 2, 2020

David Gonzalez@DavidGonzKHOU
Army CID says there is NO information or evidence that shows Specialist #VanessaGuillen had been sexually harassed. They say their investigation is ongoing. #FindVanessaGuillen #KHOU11
12:18 PM · Jul 2, 2020

David Gonzalez@DavidGonzKHOU
Specialist Aaron David Robinson has been identified as the suspect who killed himself in Killeen after fleeing Fort Hood. Army CID says he was NOT in #VanessaGuillen's chain of command. #FindVanessaGuillen #khou11
12:17 PM · Jul 2, 2020·

David Gonzalez@DavidGonzKHOU
Army CID has ONLY identified two suspects. #FindVanessaGuillen #VanessaGuillen #khou11
12:13 PM · Jul 2, 2020

 

[LaborDayRN]

I feel like I now have more questions than I had before the press conference.

As this guy wasn’t in her chain of command, and worked in an adjacent building, then motive is still up in the air.

I now believe he found himself with an opportunity, and made sexual advances towards Vanessa. She rebuffed him, and he killed her in a rage.

This is what I'm thinking as well......
From what I'm hearing, I believe investigators believe that any sexual harassment complaints were not related to Robinson.

 

[cvaldez1975]

i just saw this, idk if its here yet but here it is

BREAKING: Fort Hood soldier Vanessa Guillen bludgeoned dead with hammer in armory room, family lawyer says [EXCLUSIVE]

 

[oviedo]

"not in my jurisdiction.." CID guy
no one is apparently responsible for investigating this.

Why isnt' the civilian agent there then?

 

[Deleted member 718]

Let the Texas Ranger and Killeen LE answer questions.

 

[MassGuy]

yes I'm thinking this is a possibility but they could be more forthright about it - it just feels like they are reluctant but maybe that's the Army thing?
IMO

No, because it’s still an ongoing thing. Only two people were in that room, and both of them are dead.

What he told CA was likely a lie, so they wouldn’t want to repeat that lie, or shoot it down without having done a complete investigation.

You basically reach the conclusion that this was a sexually motivated crime of opportunity when that’s all there is left.

 

[oviedo]

"i can't comment" - 2 more questions

 

[oviedo]

SHARP is inspection not investigation - 2 star guy

 

[Boxer]

Called my senator.

Why are these people not following their procedures.
From false roll calls to having the last person to see her before she went missing MEET with the family, to letting the family find out devastating things in the media its a steaming mess.

 

[oviedo]

"I'm not aware of the internal procedures..." 2 star guy

 

[Gardenkeep]

I feel like I now have more questions than I had before the press conference.

As this guy wasn’t in her chain of command, and worked in an adjacent building, then motive is still up in the air.

I now believe he found himself with an opportunity, and made sexual advances towards Vanessa. She rebuffed him, and he killed her in a rage.

From the attached article:
When Guillen arrived at work, Robinson was already inside the armory room working. Guillen reportedly spotted photos of Aguilar on his phone and confronted him about having an affair with someone married to a former soldier.
At that point, an argument ensued, and Robinson allegedly told Guillen that he wouldn’t let her ruin his military career. He then grabbed a hammer and bludgeoned her to death, Kwaham said, leaving blood all over the armory room.

The information in this article is cited as being shared by the family Atty Kwaham as related to her by the US Army Criminal Investigation Unit.

BREAKING: Fort Hood soldier Vanessa Guillen bludgeoned dead with hammer in armory room, family lawyer says [EXCLUSIVE]

 

[oviedo]

I wish I would have screenshot that line up - we know nothing IMO.

 

[Seattle1]

David Gonzalez[URL='https://twitter.com/DavidGonzKHOU']@DavidGonzKHOU[/URL]
Army CID says more than 300 interviews have been conducted since their investigation started. #FindVanessaGuillen #VanessaGuillen #khou11
12:12 PM · Jul 2, 2020·

David Gonzalez@DavidGonzKHOU
The attorney for #VanessaGuillen's family says positively identifying the remains found 30 miles outside of Fort Hood would take 48 - 56 hours. It has been almost 48 hours since those remains were found. #FindVanessaGuillen #KHOU11
12:09 PM · Jul 2, 2020·

David Gonzalez@DavidGonzKHOU
GRAPHIC new details in the #VanessaGuillen investigation - According to the family's attorney, Army CID told them Vanessa was hit over the head with a hammer and dismembered. Her body was taken off site, burned, then encased in concrete and buried. #FindVanessaGuillen #khou11
12:00 PM · Jul 2, 2020·

David Gonzalez@DavidGonzKHOU
NEW THIS MORNING: #VanessaGuillen was promoted to specialist yesterday due to time in service according to
@forthood
. She would have celebrated two years in the #Army last month. Fort Hood's senior commander will hold a press conference today at 2 pm. #FindVanessaGuillen #khou11

8:18 AM · Jul 2, 2020

 

[MassGuy]

From the attached article:
When Guillen arrived at work, Robinson was already inside the armory room working. Guillen reportedly spotted photos of Aguilar on his phone and confronted him about having an affair with someone married to a former soldier.
At that point, an argument ensued, and Robinson allegedly told Guillen that he wouldn’t let her ruin his military career. He then grabbed a hammer and bludgeoned her to death, Kwaham said, leaving blood all over the armory room.

The information in this article is cited as being shared by the family Atty Kwaham as related to her by the US Army Criminal Investigation Unit.

BREAKING: Fort Hood soldier Vanessa Guillen bludgeoned dead with hammer in armory room, family lawyer says [EXCLUSIVE]

Yes, I do believe the family was told this, but I don’t believe it’s going to pan out.

He needed to tell his girlfriend something that would convince her to help him, but wouldn’t be so bad that she’d refuse.

So it’s a lie.