TX - Sandra Bland, 28, found dead in jail cell, Waller County, 13 July 2015 #1

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  • #81

From the arrest affidavit (unable to copy any of it).

'I had Bland exit the vehicle to further conduct a safe traffic investigation.'

No so - Trooper Encinia had Bland exit the vehicle when she questioned why she had to follow his request to put her cigarette out while sitting in her car on a public road. I'm very curious as to why she had to exit the vehicle for questioning that request.

Imo, Encinia is using a fancy phrase to cover/skirt by/avoid acknowledging his passive-aggressive behavior towards Ms Bland. Regardless of why Ms Bland was found deceased after 3 days in jail over this incident, Encinia should be removed from any role dealing with the public - and all of his colleagues everywhere that behave in the same manner. This type of behavior is causing the public to fight with each other now as to whether it is acceptable or not. A terrible situation for any free country.
 
  • #82
This is so sickening. I bet her family is beyond devastated.

I am so sorry that this happened to this vibrant young woman .

i want to say more. My anger is too much.
 
  • #83
Here it is 90 days after the first seizure and 6 months after the second.
(For people who have seizures for idiopathic reasons and don't have an Epilepsy diagnosis.)
I don't know how that varies in other states including Texas, or with someone who has a diagnosis of Epilepsy.

I didn't catch it but will take your word for it that she said this. In that case:

Driver Information By State

Every state regulates driver's license eligibility of persons with certain medical conditions. The most common requirement for people with epilepsy is that they be seizure free for a specific period of time and submit a physician's evaluation of their ability to drive safely. Another common requirement is the periodic submission of medical reports, in some states for a specified period of time and in others for as long as the person remains licensed...

https://www.epilepsy.com/driving-laws
 
  • #84
RSBM

Very strange what happened to the le dashcam --- wouldn't there be glitches in the audio as well as the video ? I understand if it was uploaded and not all of it loaded correctly ; it just seemed there'd be audio malfunctions as well.
Maybe some sleuthers here can explain how this works ?

And I wonder if Ms. Bland tried to beat up a cop after she was brought into the police station ? That would define the "...assaulting a public servant ..." part of this.

:moo:

She wasn't arrested for assaulting a public servant at the scene? I thought he arrested her for that and then took her to the station.
 
  • #85
My posts keep getting pulled without any explanation so who knows if this will last - but I didn't see her kick the cop? I know he said she did - but I sure didn't see it.
RSBM Snipped for brevity

Did this "..assault on a public servant.." bit happen after she was brought into the jail.police station ?
If so, the public deserves to see the video.
Anytime there's a coverup, people start asking questions.

Not sure what to think until more evidence is released.
Isn't there a Freedom of Information Act program to uncover what happened ?
:moo:
 
  • #86
She wasn't arrested for assaulting a public servant at the scene? I thought he arrested her for that and then took her to the station.

RSBM

One would think if that part (trying to beat up the cop at the scene) was on the responding officer's dashcam , he sure as H3LL wouldn't want it deleted or messed with -- that is his defense we're talking about !

:moo:
 
  • #87
1. I do think she killed herself in her jail cell.
2. Don't get pissed off at a police officer and DO what they say, Do NOT kick them, call them names etc. cuss at them etc. and there will not be any issues.

People need to learn to respect LO.

JmO
 
  • #88
1. I do think she killed herself in her jail cell.
2. Don't get pissed off at a police officer and DO what they say, Do NOT kick them, call them names etc. cuss at them etc. and there will not be any issues.

People need to learn to respect LO.


JmO

BBM. And LEO needs to learn to respect the citizenry. It works both ways.
 
  • #89
The phone calls.
I just watched CNN and the officer said they let her use their office phone 3 times to try to accommodate her. He implied she was having trouble with her phone calls. I'm sure they took her cell phone away. Most ppl ( myself included) don't know ph numbers by heart anymore. Contact list, voice command...We have our life line in that cell phone.

The $500 bail.
Some articles say she spoke to a bonds man...some articles say her family was trying to get the bond together..perhaps this was depressing her ..needing bond. Far from family & friends. New job. Not getting out possibly felt like an eternity. All of it.
So very sad.

JMO.
 
  • #90
BBM. And LEO needs to learn to respect the citizenry. It works both ways.

Yes yes yes. They are PEACE officers, aren't they? So many have power and control issues. I wish there was a way of weeding them out.

I know there are some forces that use the MMPI. Obviously, that is not a tool that works.

They need training on human relations. Disgusting
 
  • #91
How tall was she? What was the height of the cell? I saw inside it when a reporter from ABC went in there
 
  • #92
Yes yes yes. They are PEACE officers, aren't they? So many have power and control issues. I wish there was a way of weeding them out.

I know there are some forces that use the MMPI. Obviously, that is not a tool that works.

They need training on human relations. Disgusting

Exactly. It's not their job to taunt and antagonize citizens.
 
  • #93
Absolutely disagree. LEO's normally have policies that when transporting prisoners of the opposite sex, they call it in...in fact, every agency I have worked with, actually have us call it in with beginning and ending mileage. 100% fact.

OK, but why her race? Is that part of policy too? Because if it is, there is no reason for it, except to discriminate. Prisoners should be treated the same regardless of their race. So there should be no reason for officers to even discuss it.
 
  • #94
I love these comments on how we should be respectful to police officers OR THEY CAN ARREST AND KILL US?

It reminds me of what I used to learn about the Soviet KGB. Feared by citizens.

Did anyone see the video of a guy carrying a big rifle on his back being confronted by the police? The guy was so rude it was astounding.

Do you know what happened to that white guy? NOTHING!

I wish I knew where that video is.
 
  • #95
Dénouement;11945808 said:
How tall was she? What was the height of the cell? I saw inside it when a reporter from ABC went in there

She was 6ft tall. I don't know the height of the cell. But at her height... hanging herself with a plastic bag?
 
  • #96
I love these comments on how we should be respectful to police officers OR THEY CAN ARREST AND KILL US?

It reminds me of what I used to learn about the Soviet KGB. Feared by citizens.

Did anyone see the video of a guy carrying a big rifle on his back being confronted by the police? The guy was so rude it was astounding.

Do you know what happened to that white guy? NOTHING!

I wish I knew where that video is.

This one?

Black Man Vs White Man Open Carry An AR-15 In Oregon.

[video=youtube;EvW_zBvJlsA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvW_zBvJlsA[/video]
 
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She was 6ft tall. I don't know the height of the cell. But at her height... hanging herself with a plastic bag?

Supposedly the little thin white ones.
 
  • #99
Wonder what the female officer has to say about the arrest of Bland?

On the video she seems to support it. No surprise there. We know that all cops stick together.
 
  • #100
RSBM

One would think if that part (trying to beat up the cop at the scene) was on the responding officer's dashcam , he sure as H3LL wouldn't want it deleted or messed with -- that is his defense we're talking about !

:moo:

If that's true why haven't we seen video of her assaulting him?
 
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