TX - Sandra Bland, 28, found dead in jail cell, Waller County, 13 July 2015 #3

  • #421
The gravy train is on the way now. Though I don't believe they have any chance on BE, they may be able to get some money out of Waller County.
 
  • #422
Gravy train. What a respectful phrase to use in reference to a victim's family.
 
  • #423
The gravy train is on the way now. Though I don't believe they have any chance on BE, they may be able to get some money out of Waller County.

If not for BE we wouldn't be having this discussion and SB would still be living her life. IMO
I hope they sue him right out of his little trooper pants.
For starters for false imprisonment. IMO
 
  • #424
The head of the DPS has admitted himself that BE did not follow correct procedure. Kinda hard to argue against that one would think but that's JMO.
 
  • #425
Gravy train. What a respectful phrase to use in reference to a victim's family.

That was just ugly. As if any amount of money could take the place of a loved one. IMO
 
  • #426
I will agree that no amount of money will replace a loved one. So what's the point of trying to get money, just to make someone, (the taxpayers) pay?
 
  • #427
I will agree that no amount of money will replace a loved one. So what's the point of trying to get money, just to make someone, (the taxpayers) pay?

Sadly it is the only recourse for justice at this point. You can't allow the people that did it wrong just to walk away.
Also some might lose their jobs as another form of being made to answer for their actions,but that depends on the results of the investigation.
 
  • #428
I will agree that no amount of money will replace a loved one. So what's the point of trying to get money, just to make someone, (the taxpayers) pay?

To show LE that there are consequences to abuse and neglect, so that it's less likely to happen again. It's their only recourse.
 
  • #429
I will agree that no amount of money will replace a loved one. So what's the point of trying to get money, just to make someone, (the taxpayers) pay?
You can sue to have different systems put in place. You can sue to force compliance with the standards that the jail already had, but which they seem to be fall short of.

And, when you get down to the nitty gritty, the upper command in police departments at the very least will think twice about how to avoid a situation similar to the one that just cost them beaucoup bucks.

Also: probably any money recovered will be paid by the insurer for the police dept.

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  • #430
As far as SB being a victim, I'm no sure exactly how that fits if she committed suicide. Anyone else care to elaborate?
 
  • #431
As far as SB being a victim, I'm no sure exactly how that fits if she committed suicide. Anyone else care to elaborate?

I knew that was coming next. No, I don't care to elaborate. I believe, personally, views of others who do see Sandy as a victim have already been most eloquently expressed.

JMO
 
  • #432
Sadly it is the only recourse for justice at this point. You can't allow the people that did it wrong just to walk away.
Also some might lose there jobs as another form of being made to answer for their actions,but that depends on the results of the investigation.

There's also the hope it will draw attention to the deficiencies that led to her death and changes will be made, preventing the same thing from happening to someone else.
And if they have to pay for their mistakes maybe they'll be more careful next time.
 
  • #433
I knew that was coming next. No, I don't care to elaborate. I believe, personally, views of others who do see Sandy as a victim have already been most eloquently expressed.

JMO

You read my mind. If some don't get it they never will. IMO
 
  • #434
There's also the hope it will draw attention to the deficiencies that led to her death and changes will be made, preventing the same thing from happening to someone else.
And if they have to pay for their mistakes maybe they'll be more careful next time.

We can always hope. She may have made the difference and change she spoke about after all. IMO
 
  • #435
As far as SB being a victim, I'm no sure exactly how that fits if she committed suicide. Anyone else care to elaborate?

She's a victim of suicide/suicide victim. I'm not sure what's not to understand. Google "suicide victim" if you need help.
 
  • #436
The unemployment rate for young adults, especially black young adults, is very high. Good jobs are still very difficult to find, especially those in sectors other than food service, etc. Many of these people will even work very long hours in unpaid "internships" in hopes of getting a paid position.

So, the idea of her going to TX even for a paid, temporary job working in the field she wanted to pursue is not unusual these days for her age cohort.


SB was working in IL. One of the umpteen msm articles talks about her leaving her IL job for the TX job. With a college degree she would have no problem finding a job in the Chicago area. Also, just west of Naperville starts the farming communities. She resided in an area she could have found work in her chosen field.
 
  • #437
As far as SB being a victim, I'm no sure exactly how that fits if she committed suicide. Anyone else care to elaborate?
Putting aside terms like "victim" and "fairness", there are standards the jail has to follow to minimize the possibility someone will commit suicide while in custody.

And dayum, everything I've seen supports that they did not follow those for Sandra. AND they have not followed their own requirements for others, based on external audits.

For the reasons above, they are going to be sued. Quite rightfully, IMO.

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  • #438
SB was working in IL. One of the umpteen msm articles talks about her leaving her IL job for the TX job. With a college degree she would have no problem finding a job in the Chicago area. Also, just west of Naperville starts the farming communities. She resided in an area she could have found work in her chosen field.

So, wait. We're now arguing about and questioning her decision to move to Texas? Really?
 
  • #439
She's a victim of suicide/suicide victim. I'm not sure what's not to understand. Google "suicide victim" if you need help.

I don't have to google anything to know that people that kill themselves are not victims. jmo idk
 
  • #440
So, wait. We're now arguing about and questioning her decision to move to Texas? Really?

Yes again my thoughts as well. It's almost like she shouldn't be allowed to travel. I don't get it.
 

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