TX - Shots fired, injuries reported at ICE facility in Dallas - Sept 24, 2025

  • #61
Interesting point.

I wonder if shooters like this have the urge to destroy and harm and retro-fit an issue to push them into action. They might indeed not care deeply about the issue or be more than superficially informed, but are perhaps driven to destruction, reaction, and relief (for themselves).

I don't know. Just pondering aloud.

jmopinion
I also wonder if they think that choosing a target related to a hot-button political issue will generate more headlines
 
  • #62
ETA - Pictures at link of rooftop

What we know:

At a news conference, local, state, and federal law enforcement officials confirmed that the shooting happened around 6:30 a.m. at the detention facility located on North Stemmons Freeway.

Dallas police officers found four people who had been shot. Two of those people were dead, including the shooter. The other two were taken to the hospital in an unknown condition.

FOX 4 originally reported that a second victim had died at the hospital, but officials would not confirm that information.

None of the victims are law enforcement officers, officials confirmed.

 
  • #63
I have absolutely no experience with firearms so I’m sure some of you can answer my question. I know a photo was shown of a bullet with a message written on it and I believe it was an unfired bullet? Would they be able to determine if the fired bullets had messages written on them? Like is there enough of a fired bullet left to see a message on it or if it was written on, even if indecipherable?
 
  • #64
I have absolutely no experience with firearms so I’m sure some of you can answer my question. I know a photo was shown of a bullet with a message written on it and I believe it was an unfired bullet? Would they be able to determine if the fired bullets had messages written on them? Like is there enough of a fired bullet left to see a message on it or if it was written on, even if indecipherable?
Yes. When a bullet (really a cartridge if you want to be exact) is fired, the casing/shell is ejected and left behind. So, engraving/stamping the casing could definitely leave a message behind.

Ink theoretically could burn off due to heat, but obviously not in this case, since the round was not fired.
 
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  • #65
I have absolutely no experience with firearms so I’m sure some of you can answer my question. I know a photo was shown of a bullet with a message written on it and I believe it was an unfired bullet? Would they be able to determine if the fired bullets had messages written on them? Like is there enough of a fired bullet left to see a message on it or if it was written on, even if indecipherable?
In this case, the messages were scrawled on the casing, which would be ejected from the side of the weapon after the bullet was fired and another round was chambered. The round fired wouldn't likely retain anything written or etched on it.

The clip shown with the writing on it looks to my eyes like 30-06 175 grain rounds, which typically look like this after impact.

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  • #66
ETA - Pictures at link of rooftop

What we know:

At a news conference, local, state, and federal law enforcement officials confirmed that the shooting happened around 6:30 a.m. at the detention facility located on North Stemmons Freeway.

Dallas police officers found four people who had been shot. Two of those people were dead, including the shooter. The other two were taken to the hospital in an unknown condition.

FOX 4 originally reported that a second victim had died at the hospital, but officials would not confirm that information.

None of the victims are law enforcement officers, officials confirmed.

Thanks for sharing! That is definitely not the apartment building I was looking at and mentioned in my previous post. This building is directly behind the ICE facility and when I look on google maps, I see this is an immigration attorney's office building. Maybe there are apartments there also or maybe the AP had it wrong when they listed it as an apartment building.
 
  • #67
Oh, I’m very behind today and hadn’t heard about this as I haven’t watched or read any news yet.

I’ll scroll back. I’m sure there must be multiple comments about this already but what is this now with everyone shooting from rooftops????

I suppose easy enough to climb and to be inconspicuous and also better able to aim a gun? Easier to disappear? Although I see the shooter killed himself.

Are we going to have to remove roofs from every building? Impossible, of course.

Scrolling back now and thence I’ll learn more.

ETA: now I see through scrolling back that this killer also inscribed a message on the bullet casing. It seems like this has become the “trendy” way for killers now to broadcast their messages. Such a horror.

IMO
 
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  • #68
In this case, the messages were scrawled on the casing, which would be ejected from the side of the weapon after the bullet was fired and another round was chambered. The round fired wouldn't likely retain anything written or etched on it.

The clip shown with the writing on it looks to my eyes like 30-06 175 grain rounds, which typically look like this after impact.

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Thank you! Kash Patel’s X post showed a photo of bullets (casings?) and said “One of the unspent shell casings was recovered with the phrase “ANTI ICE””, and the photo did indeed show one bullet with those words on it. When he says “unspent”, does that mean that the bullet he referred to in the picture was not fired?

 
  • #69
Have a link that shows suspect on roof dead, am i allowed to post.?
 
  • #70
That doesn't look "engraved."

It looks like someone hurriedly scrawled something on a single casing with a blue ballpoint pen.
 
  • #71
Have a link that shows suspect on roof dead, am i allowed to post.?
If it’s posted by a mainstream media source, you may. If you’re not sure, DM me and I’ll review it ASAP.
 
  • #72
Thank you! Kash Patel’s X post showed a photo of bullets (casings?) and said “One of the unspent shell casings was recovered with the phrase “ANTI ICE””, and the photo did indeed show one bullet with those words on it. When he says “unspent”, does that mean that the bullet he referred to in the picture was not fired?

Correct. That clip contained unified rounds.
 
  • #73
DBM, duplicate post.
 
  • #74
Have a link that shows suspect on roof dead, am i allowed to post.?
Unfortunately I've already seen it quite by accident. I would STRONGLY caution anyone, before viewing this horribly graphic image.
 
  • #75
I wonder if the shooter had family or friends that were taken into custody by ICE.

Jmo
 
  • #76
Unfortunately I've already seen it quite by accident. I would STRONGLY caution anyone, before viewing this horribly graphic image.

Thats why I asked because links now show images when posting the link.
 
  • #77
That doesn't look "engraved."

It looks like someone hurriedly scrawled something on a single casing with a blue ballpoint pen.
Or a Sharpie. Jmo.
 
  • #78
Correct. That clip contained unified rounds.
Thank you! One theoretical question and one rhetorical question. Theoretically, the bullets that were fired should have their respective ejected casings near where the gun fired them, as long as the shooter didn’t move them prior to his death, correct?

If so, I wonder if the fired casings had messages written on them, or if there was only the unfired one with writing on it that we’ve been shown? I know you can’t answer that obviously, I just wonder if we will find out.
 
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  • #79
Unfortunately I've already seen it quite by accident. I would STRONGLY caution anyone, before viewing this horribly graphic image.
Same. If you don't like blood or dead bodies don't do it. Ugh.
 
  • #80
Thank you! One theoretical and one rhetorical. Theoretically, the bullets that were fired should have their respective ejected casings near where the gun fired them, as long as the shooter didn’t move them prior to his death, correct?

If so, I wonder if the fired casings had messages written on them, or if there was only the unfired one with writing on it that we’ve been shown? I know you can’t answer that obviously, I just wonder if we will find out.
One account of the incident said there were 20 shots fired. How accurate that is, who knows? But, I'd think there would be a fair amount of casings scattered around. That unfired 5-round clip sitting there, just looks odd.
 

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