TX - Austin Metcalf - 17 - fatally stabbed at track meet, 2 April 2025

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4/14/25

During the hearing, we learned Karmelo is the oldest child and has three siblings. The family moved to the DFW area in 2021.

He was the captain of the football and track teams, and he had never been arrested before this incident. He has worked at Foot Locker for two years and worked a second job at H-E-B.

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They brought up the GoFundMe page that is operated by Anthony's mother. The goal was raised from $450,000 to $500,000. It is currently at $412,000.

Bill Wirsky, Collin County First Assistant, asked if they had more than $400,000, why haven't they bonded him out of jail yet?

The family said it is a difficult process to get the money and "it isn't as simple as giving a phone call to access it." The family also said a lot of the money has to go to the legal defense.

The judge reduced the teen's bond to $250,000, and he will be placed on house arrest.
 
  • #183

4/14/25

During the hearing, we learned Karmelo is the oldest child and has three siblings. The family moved to the DFW area in 2021.

He was the captain of the football and track teams, and he had never been arrested before this incident. He has worked at Foot Locker for two years and worked a second job at H-E-B.

[..]


They brought up the 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 page that is operated by Anthony's mother. The goal was raised from $450,000 to $500,000. It is currently at $412,000.

Bill Wirsky, Collin County First Assistant, asked if they had more than $400,000, why haven't they bonded him out of jail yet?

The family said it is a difficult process to get the money and "it isn't as simple as giving a phone call to access it." The family also said a lot of the money has to go to the legal defense.

The judge reduced the teen's bond to $250,000, and he will be placed on house arrest.
I just have no words for it all today!! :mad: It's insanity to lower his bond AT ALL never mind the 🤬🤬🤬 page and funds.. moo
 
  • #184
I don't know what the terms are on the use of the funds raised. And honestly, I don't know how this works. It puts a fund raising site and its authorizer in a potentially risky position. I certainly hope that Anthony's family is discussing this with an accountant to understand the taxation implications of that fund. They should not rely upon the site or their criminal defense attorney to do that for them.
 
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I don't know what the terms are on the use of the funds raised. And honestly, I don't know how this works. It puts a fund raising site and its authorizer in a potentially risky position. I certainly hope that Anthony's family is discussing this with an accountant to understand the taxation implications of that fund. They should not rely upon the site or their criminal defense attorney to do that for them.
GSG 100% allows donated funds to be used for criminal legal defense.
 
  • #186
GSG 100% allows donated funds to be used for criminal legal defense.
I understand their platform and statement. But who gets to decide exactly how those funds are spent? Is there an attorney oversight board that determines that? Does bond fall into that? Its ethically dicey.
 
  • #187
I understand their platform and statement. But who gets to decide exactly how those funds are spent? Is there an attorney oversight board that determines that? Does bond fall into that? Its ethically dicey.
The person creating the campaign decides. In this case, it's the accused's stepmother.
 
  • #188
I don't know what the terms are on the use of the funds raised. And honestly, I don't know how this works. It puts a fund raising site and its authorizer in a potentially risky position. I certainly hope that Anthony's family is discussing this with an accountant to understand the taxation implications of that fund. They should not rely upon the site or their criminal defense attorney to do that for them.
My understanding is that as long as the donations made are "gifts" and that no "goods or services" are exchanged for the donations/gifts, then the donations are not taxable.


ETA I am not an accountant or financial advisor.
 
  • #189
Interesting. The family states here that they don't have access to the "defense fund". I wonder if they can raise the collateral for the bond. Seems like the judge went pretty light here, for a murder charge. $250,000. That would be $25,000 cash, standard 10%, and the rest can be property worth the rest of the bond.

Would you put up your home as bond for your son? Charged with murder? There was a movie with Oprah Winfrey, exact situation, she did, and her son ran off. She lost her house. "Women of Brewster Place."

 
  • #190
My understanding is that as long as the donations made are "gifts" and that no "goods or services" are exchanged for the donations/gifts, then the donations are not taxable.


ETA I am not an accountant or financial advisor.
Interesting. I would have thought it would be seen as income, therefore taxable. Does anyone know if there is a limit on the $$ amount in "gifts" someone can receive during one fiscal year? I know there is in the place I come from, so wondering if that applies here too..

ETA: Google educated me on this:

Annual gift tax exclusion: The gift tax limit is $18,000 in 2024 and $19,000 in 2025. Note that this annual exclusion is per gift recipient. So, you could give away the limit to several different people in a single year and still not have to file a gift tax return and possibly pay the gift tax.


I take it to mean it's all tax-free as it does not come from the same person. That's lucky.
 
  • #191
I appreciate seeing the victim's name in the thread title. Thank you.
 
  • #192

4/14/25

A teen who fatally stabbed a 17-year-old boy at a Texas track meet was involved in an 'assault' at his school earlier this year, prosecutors said.

Karmelo Anthony's father was questioned in court over an incident in the teen's high school back in February that involved an altercation 'assault.'

It's not clear whether Anthony was an aggressor, victim or witness in the incident, which was handled internally by Frisco's independent school district.
That should come out in court.
 
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Can they use the funds to bail out KA? The attorneys might not like that. They have a blank check now.
 
  • #195

Jmo but I thought the reporters' queries were fair enough ?
Hardly, 'brutal'.


"...But that money, his family argued, was to fund his legal defense and to pay for them to relocate and hire security to escape chilling death threats they've received during the highly publicized case..."
Rbm.

Re. the 1st red bolded: Does "relocate" include house hunting with an upgrade in mind ?
Difficult to imagine using the money raised for KA's defense to buy a new home.
Why not stay, and use every penny to get your son off the hook, so to speak.
And who could think of house buying when faced with what your child has done.

As to the 2nd red bolded ; people can and have been arrested for online or mail in threats -- have the Anthony's turned this information over to LE ?
Or do we have to just believe what they're saying.
Not dismissing true threats --but I keep thinking this is the family who raised Karmelo and despite what we may think it has the appearance of benefitting from this terrible murder.

It feels like an episode of the twilight zone, tbh.
Wonder if Karmelo will be able to plea down to a manslaughter, the same as a drunk driving accident ?
I will not be shocked if KA winds up serving four years in prison or less.

Also from the link : "...
This family needs to be able to survive.'
The way I see it, even if KA receives a lengthy sentence, his family can still see him, hug him, hear his voice, and send him some spending money for the commissary, etc.

The Metcalf's will never be able to do that.
All they have left are photos and videos.

I'm esp. worried for his parents and his twin, Hunter, who held Austin in his arms as he died.
The loss is staggering and there will be no more 'good' days.
Maybe, 'OK' days.
The Metcalfs are the ones who will need to be able to survive !
Imo.
Omo.
 
  • #196
@Chimera agreed. Your son is in jail, so why do you need to take a month off from work? He isn't going anywhere. (Unless they use the funds for bail money), but if they are buying a new house, I guess that money is going to drain pretty fast.

Honestly, that kid, 17 years old, can't leave the house! Unless the judge allows it. Maybe to go to school? Unless the District kicks him out for having a weapon on school property. So, maybe work?

That would drive me crazy, to have a 17 year old at home every second of the day.
 
  • #197

Jmo but I thought the reporters' queries were fair enough ?
Hardly, 'brutal'.


"...But that money, his family argued, was to fund his legal defense and to pay for them to relocate and hire security to escape chilling death threats they've received during the highly publicized case..."
Rbm.

Re. the 1st red bolded: Does "relocate" include house hunting with an upgrade in mind ?
Difficult to imagine using the money raised for KA's defense to buy a new home.
Why not stay, and use every penny to get your son off the hook, so to speak.
And who could think of house buying when faced with what your child has done.

As to the 2nd red bolded ; people can and have been arrested for online or mail in threats -- have the Anthony's turned this information over to LE ?
Or do we have to just believe what they're saying.
Not dismissing true threats --but I keep thinking this is the family who raised Karmelo and despite what we may think it has the appearance of benefitting from this terrible murder.

It feels like an episode of the twilight zone, tbh.
Wonder if Karmelo will be able to plea down to a manslaughter, the same as a drunk driving accident ?
I will not be shocked if KA winds up serving four years in prison or less.

Also from the link : "...
This family needs to be able to survive.'
The way I see it, even if KA receives a lengthy sentence, his family can still see him, hug him, hear his voice, and send him some spending money for the commissary, etc.

The Metcalf's will never be able to do that.
All they have left are photos and videos.

I'm esp. worried for his parents and his twin, Hunter, who held Austin in his arms as he died.
The loss is staggering and there will be no more 'good' days.
Maybe, 'OK' days.
The Metcalfs are the ones who will need to be able to survive !
Imo.
Omo.
I can't tell you how much the financial details of this story irk me. He was whisked/escorted away from the courthouse and placed in something that looked like a secret service vehicle.

This case is going to get ridiculous. The VICTIM Austin Metcalf, is going to be swallowed up and lost to the side agendas others are already pushing.
 
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I can't tell you how much the financial details of this story irk me. He was whisked/escorted away from the courthouse and placed in something that looked like a secret service vehicle.

This case is going to get ridiculous. The VICTIM Austin Metcalf, is going to be swallowed up and lost to the side agendas others are already pushing.
There are SO MANY people seeing the same thing you're seeing, and rightfully pretty ticked off about it. None of this should be happening, and that poor kid should still be alive.
 
  • #199
I live in Frisco. The community has rallied around the families. Basically, at the track meet, the victim was under his tent for his team. Another athlete that was from the other team came into the tent. The victim told him, he was not in the right tent. He told him twice. That's when the child pulled out a knife. I believe they were both at fault. It was not a race thing.

the community has rallied around them
. extremely sad.
Emphasis mine.

Re. the first bolded : At 17 years of age I do believe Karmelo knew right from wrong and he also knew plunging a knife into another teen's chest could kill him.
Seventeen is just a year shy of legal age to get married, vote, smoke, drink, join the military, etc.

Just my opinion but Karmelo was not a 'child' in any sense of the word.
A minor, yes, but nearly an adult.

Am referring more to how some of the media is referring to him (from my earlier comment) than your post --this was not a brief shoving match between kids, it was a murder by one young man of an innocent victim who in no way provoked such an act. Just saying.

I do not believe Karmelo's life has been ruined; as I'd bet money he will not spend the remainder of his days behind bars; and am amazed (albeit not in a good way !) at some of the funds and support being shown to him.

Austin Metcalf's life is over.

Re. the second bolded : I don't know yet, it may come out if there's a trial, but I'm not holding my breath.
It would be interesting to know about any previous incidents that Karmelo had ?

As far as the murder, possibly a rage against someone who K.A. felt had shown him disrespect.
From where or whom did he learn that ?

It looks like the media may be spinning this to become a race thing. The media has done more harm than good in some of these cases, in my opinion.

This is sad for the Metcalfs' who will never see Austin smile or hear his voice again.
His murder had to be terribly painful and it was definitely savage.

Re. the third bolded : With the apparent community and legal support for KA, I expect he will have a future and he will go on to live his life.
It's horribly unfair.

Murder needs to be dealt with for what it is, but I fear KA may get off easy.
Imo.
 
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The
Texas judge who reduced the bond of a teen who killed another boy at a track meet has been forced to go private on social media after being widely criticized for her ruling.

Collin County district judge Angela Tucker set her X account to private after she reduced Karmelo Anthony's bond from $1million to $250,000 on Monday.

Anthony, 17, will await his trial for Austin Metcalf's murder in home arrest after bonding out of jail following Tucker's decision. Metcalf, 17, died in his twin brother Hunter's arms after being stabbed in the heart at a track meet in Frisco.
At the same time the judge has been receiving support from Anthony's supporters, who have donated more than $425,000 for his defense.

During Monday's hearing, judge Tucker said 'they've never had the security issues they've faced with this case.'
Rbm.

It's understandable why judge Tucker is facing some criticism.

Regarding the bolded : Soooo... wouldn't Karmelo be safer behind bars, in this case ?
Imo.
 

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