TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

Maybe i mentioned this before, or it has been sitting at the back of my head, but- FWIW. speculation, imo.....
Reminded of the perp who shot a female clerk in Michigan in 2017.
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I genuinely can't believe that case has remained unsolved. It does remind me of Missy's for some reason. Probably just because the cases with video surveillance that remain unsolved are so frustrating in particular. Missy, Chelsea, Liz Barazza. I can't remember the names now, but also the woman who was working as an escort and they have video of the guy entering her apartment building and the woman murdered outside her divorce lawyer's offices.
 
LE already consulted with a forensic podiatrist, who knows far more than any person offering anedoctal observations, and he has said that he can't really conclude anything and the gear and footwear is a factor that is not measureable in it's affect on the walk/gait. Therefore, IMO, ideas put forth by us, the unqualified, are not of use. The podiatrist also explained that LE had him look at videos of (unknown) persons walking and he could not give an opinion about how he saw them walking compared to the suspect.
Correct. My response agrees with yours. There are many people who walk this way and the gait is not conclusive. After all this time, it has led exactly nowhere. Moo
 
imo only but i think the gait is intentional. creepy and cartoonish almost. the murderer wanted to be seen — that’s why they’re opening up doors, lurking about casually. this person was confident. MB must have been terrified and moo, that’s by design
The gait and touching of the wall reminds me of when I broke my ankle and was healing. I would "grab" at walls the same way as the suspect does to help steady myself/feel confident in my balance.
 
I have been following this case off and on since the beginning. If this has been discussed in one of the threads I apologize in advance. Could the suspect have been casing the church because they had planned to come back later to commit a mass shooting. I'm sure the police have looked into anyone that might have add a grudge against the the church or someone who worked at the church.
 
I have been following this case off and on since the beginning. If this has been discussed in one of the threads I apologize in advance. Could the suspect have been casing the church because they had planned to come back later to commit a mass shooting. I'm sure the police have looked into anyone that might have add a grudge against the the church or someone who worked at the church.
Why wear all that exaggerate gear and not bother to bring a weapon to practice with?

The perp wasn’t even making pretend air weapons.

This, among many other things, makes me extremely apprehensive of LARP theory.
 
Pretty safe to say they had a weapon with them since the victim was shot.
This is a great point. Why didn’t they have it out? This (when piecing together other context clues) leads me to believe the perp intended to produce the weapon after intentionally finding and confronting Missy. I think it’s possible a gun was used after the perp realized they were no match for Missy and had to use an equilizer.

Admittedly, targeted or no targeted theories both have some highly compelling points. Both theories also have tons of “but but but” and “then why did” questions that just cannot seem to find the proper footing.

I did read an interesting claim once about a man who may have been in the SWAT gear but I could not confirm any of the claims through research. I did find the man’s photo, and he has a slight effeminate face and unusually thick (more like chubby) neck and throat area. It was making me question things, as when you see the footage of the perps face after they fumble around with the locked door and then walk to the double Dutch doors, the perps face can kind of be seen for just a split second, and it matches that description (albeit it the cctv footage was not very high quality and did not catch too much, could have been almost any Caucasian man or woman)
 
I have been following this case off and on since the beginning. If this has been discussed in one of the threads I apologize in advance. Could the suspect have been casing the church because they had planned to come back later to commit a mass shooting. I'm sure the police have looked into anyone that might have add a grudge against the the church or someone who worked at the church.
I think, because it wasn't Missy's church (she was a member of Cowboy Church, afaik) and MB was so obviously targeted, it wasn't someone with a mass shooting in mind. His target was Missy only for whatever reasons. IMO
 
I think, because it wasn't Missy's church (she was a member of Cowboy Church, afaik) and MB was so obviously targeted, it wasn't someone with a mass shooting in mind. His target was Missy only for whatever reasons. IMO
I personally feel thats most likely the case, too.

However, there is extremely compelling arguments and counterpoints for this theory that I cannot discount.
 
I'm sure the police have looked into anyone that might have add a grudge against the the church or someone who worked at the church.

I think, because it wasn't Missy's church (she was a member of Cowboy Church, afaik) and MB was so obviously targeted,
Hold your horses, equal time and consideration for the statement that it was so obviously not a planned murder of anyone, especially not of Missy. IMO
 
If Missy were shot, when she arrived at the SW entrance and left her car - would we have a quite different picture (and possible reason) of her murder? At the entrance, in the open= targeted? In the church, in a corner without surveillance= not targeted?
To me I would maybe think the opposite— in the open=not targeted (she surprised the perp), in a corner more hidden away=targeted

Jmo
 
I might be missing something, but several posts above reference MB being shot. I've only ever seen the COD as being 'multiple puncture wounds' consistent with weaponry the perp was seen on camera with.

Hopefully this is an approved source. Just one of the many that comes up when performing a search for MB's COD: Missy Bevers Died From Multiple Puncture Wounds to Head and Chest: Police
 
I might be missing something, but several posts above reference MB being shot. I've only ever seen the COD as being 'multiple puncture wounds' consistent with weaponry the perp was seen on camera with.

Hopefully this is an approved source. Just one of the many that comes up when performing a search for MB's COD: Missy Bevers Died From Multiple Puncture Wounds to Head and Chest: Police
Please refer to post #601 in this thread.
Tl/dr: FBI database indicates that a homicide of a woman the same age as MB in that location on that date was committed with a gun.

No one knows why LE uses this odd verbal circumlocution rather than saying she was shot. There may have been other wounds, or not, but we don't know.
 
I might be missing something, but several posts above reference MB being shot. I've only ever seen the COD as being 'multiple puncture wounds' consistent with weaponry the perp was seen on camera with.

Hopefully this is an approved source. Just one of the many that comes up when performing a search for MB's COD: Missy Bevers Died From Multiple Puncture Wounds to Head and Chest: Police

Please refer to post #601 in this thread.
Tl/dr: FBI database indicates that a homicide of a woman the same age as MB in that location on that date was committed with a gun.

No one knows why LE uses this odd verbal circumlocution rather than saying she was shot. There may have been other wounds, or not, but we don't know.
I also questioned this for a while.

SteveS provided a direct link to the search results.

It is a massive MASSIVE pain in the neck to use that database.
 
I believe the man that interviewed the husband for the Waxahachie Sun (don't know his name) said in an interview with Nancy Grace that he speculates that the unknown object used was a screwdriver.
That's what I'd speculate too. It goes along with the hammer seen on CCTV as well as the puncture wounds we know to have caused MB's death.
 
The victim died of a gunshot and it's been accepted as a fact on this thread for a long time. I have attached SteveS's post, which has been relied for this information but we all have the same access to the facts.


That's what I'd speculate too. It goes along with the hammer seen on CCTV as well as the puncture wounds we know to have caused MB's death.
I have provided this for you before. The page is a screen grab straight from the FBI's UCR files. (They were in person and investigating it from the day of the murder.)
1 They have a massive database on crimes committed in the US, which by law is made available to LE and to researchers.
2 Their search engine seemed almost impossible to navigate from the outset - having been told it was there somewhere, it took me MANY MANY hours of various inputs to finally find a path to the info. You have to use what we know, in odd screens where they ask for this but not for that, and eventually work your way to a results screen.
3 I did find the info multiple times (and shared it in this forum) and others found ways to do the same. The crimes are not listed by name, so you have to enter some parameters to make it unique. It's helpful that Midlothian and Ellis Co have few unsolved murders.
4 Each time took trial-and-error and MANY hours of persistence. You have to put in just the right search inputs, in just the right order, and navigate through multiple searches to get what is buried there. I would try this, then that, over and over. I landed back at start with much frequency.
5 I learned the hard way that there's not a defined path to get there again - it can be repetitious and feel like luck, and what works one time doesn't seem to work the next. You have to find the right search page, then use just the right parameters (what we know of the crime, the victim, etc), and hope you do it in the right order.
6 Also it's behind a wall that does not let you copy a URL and return to the results at your leisure. Each time, you have to trial-and-error anew for many unpredictable hours.
7 Unfortunately, in the years since, they kept changing their search screens and input options, making the path different and more difficult imo. The last time was my personal "last time" and I just made a screen shot and decided "never again."
8 Depending on the path you take, the search results come up in varying ways. Below is the result I happened to get the last time, when I decided I wasn't doing it again.
9 It could be easy now. I dunno. I don't have any reason to undergo the beating again and find out.

FWIW, there is a website (Murder Accountability Project) that D/L'ed the database and layered their own search engine on it. The info was there as well in their own search results, although formatted a bit differently. There may be other research orgs that have it online. That could be a secondary path. I can't promise who has what, anymore. But they had the same info, of course -- she was killed with a "Handgun - pistol, revolver, etc". If one is too frustrating, maybe another works for you. But it was always a long project for me to look up each time, and some times I would bail because I couldn't figure out how to get there this time with their latest overlays.

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If you wish, you can theoretically look it up yourself.
 

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