TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #13

[cady]

As I am aware of, the two campers who called 911 have not been identified. Right?

Do we know who called BB? Were they personal friends with BB/Missy? How did they know his phone number?
I am sure many of Missy's friends and campers did not have BB's phone number. Just curious.

What we are led to believe, is that the person who called BB was one of the mystery campers. How they knew BB's number we do not know. A lot to speculate about there. I really wonder if they called him and said the word "accident" or if, he used that word when he called his mother.......because there was some obvious confusion about what happened to Missy......and it was quite clear to all the campers that it was no car accident, in fact, if the campers saw her in a pool of blood, it was obvious that this was no accident, at all. JMO

 

[CrimeDawg123]

She could still have fought back after that. The perp must have either used something to subdue her like chloroform, a stun gun or a gun first or been a very strong male.

I totally agree with you. If it is a woman who did this, with everything else being so carefully planned, I would bet she had a stun gun or something to be absolutely sure she could overpower MB.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

What we are led to believe, is that the person who called BB was one of the mystery campers. How they knew BB's number we do not know. A lot to speculate about there. I really wonder if they called him and said the word "accident" or if, he used that word when he called his mother.......because there was some obvious confusion about what happened to Missy......and it was quite clear to all the campers that it was no car accident, in fact, if the campers saw her in a pool of blood, it was obvious that this was no accident, at all. JMO

Will be interesting to find out what they thought when they came across her. I can't imagine how horrible that was for them. Seeing blood and broken glass, it seems reasonable to me that they might have assumed accident of some kind as opposed to an attack.

 

[Scout]

Yes and I think I just found some of those class room photos. And I figured out also that the doors to those classrooms open out. I am thinking thats where that #12 room is. The only doors I have seen so far that open inward are the Kitchen doors. The others open ... pulling out towards the hall. The Kitchen, pulls in toward the kitchen and rests against the wall.

Are you certain of the room numbers 6 and 8 on the north side of the building?

 

[cady]

Will be interesting to find out what they thought when they came across her. I can't imagine how horrible that was for them. Seeing blood and broken glass, it seems reasonable to me that they might have assumed accident of some kind as opposed to an attack.

Possibly.............it also may have been the gentlest way to relay the message. JMO

 

[Dollcat]

It's a locking mole wrench. It has red plastic tips on the ends. The jaws are wide open holding a round bolt. "Shiny" is metal, silver to be exact and the round bolt head in the jaws is either copper, brass or gold colored. The "braided" appearance is pixelation.

You say that it's holding a bolt - so it has been used to disassemble something. So maybe swatperp had taken something apart and was hurriedly moving to his next task (altho nothin in the video screams he does anything in a hurry of course we don't see the footage when he is done and getting the h😳ll outta Dodge. Probably not ambling along then...I would think it were taking something apart and not planning on using the screws,bolts etc to put it back together and not wanting to leave a mess to pick up off the floor later(in your own home or under normal circumstances)--I wouldn't care about it falling on floor and would want it out of the grip to be able to move on to my next "task",seems like it would hamper my efforts. Of course this whole lackadaisical, nonchalant behavior is very very weird. JMO

 

[liltexans]

Im new here so bare with me. Ive gone over this in my mind back and forth. Im now convinced the perp is nobody we suspect. Ever wonder how they got away so easy or why they strolled down the halls so nonchalantly? Im wondering if the perp might actually be a cop? Hmmm

Some here have speculated that the perp is a cop or is related to a cop.

Welcome to WS!

:welcome:

 

[Scout]

Yes and I think I just found some of those class room photos. And I figured out also that the doors to those classrooms open out. I am thinking thats where that #12 room is. The only doors I have seen so far that open inward are the Kitchen doors. The others open ... pulling out towards the hall. The Kitchen, pulls in toward the kitchen and rests against the wall.

Room 12 is likely a classroom. Ladies Bible Study meets there.

There is also a room called the Connection Cafe near the kitchen. And there is a library somewhere in the church, too.

http://www.creeksidecc.com

 

[Scout]

What is the number next to the door in the section of the video where the perpetrator is walking away from the camera, intermittently touching the wall with his hand. It looks like twenty-something.

https://youtu.be/ePS8TJ6UAqY

 

[BeesInMyBonnet]

I might have missed something but a post on MB facebook in March shows that previously when raining they trained under the awning. Why did the rain in April cause them to move inside? Was this move inside unusual in which case the amount of planning for a SWOT Perp might not have been about Missy? I can't get out of my mind the question of why at the church, with cameras & campers arriving imminently where there are plenty of other locations they could have spent longer with her to scare her if it was a crime of revenge / passion.

Missy BeversMarch 9 · Waxahachie, TX, United States ·
Good Morning CG MIDLO....you know your training is never put on hold, no matter what the weather! We are under the awning at Creekside Church of Christ. See you soon!!

The reason for training outside in the rain versus moving training inside, IMO, could be as simple as in March the rain was light while in April the rain was torrential and there was thunder and perhaps lightning.

 

[faw720]

Will be interesting to find out what they thought when they came across her. I can't imagine how horrible that was for them. Seeing blood and broken glass, it seems reasonable to me that they might have assumed accident of some kind as opposed to an attack.

I agree. Most of us even in our wildest imaginations would never think we would find a murder victim.

 

[1&2&3]

In my mind, this is how I see it happening.

Perp is hiding behind door in dark room.
Missy enters room with hands full and leans against wall under wall switch as she reaches up to turn light switch on.
Perp has a perfect time to strike her over the head as she is steady, non-moving.
Depending on the power behind s/his hit as to what happens next.
Weak hit, she is dazed, but tries to run, however, she is too dizzy to run.
She tries to fight back, to no avail.
Powerful hit, she is unconscious from the start.

IMO, the suspect had plenty to say to her, and was talking the whole time! Not that Missy was aware of any of it. It was the killer getting his/her rage out.

My opinions only.

 

[DesiredJustice]

It appears a few posters here are familiar with the inside of the church. My question is...what type of room or what is inside the room that the SWATperp went into before attempting to jar the door open of the room next to it? I'm trying to figure out what in the world the white elongated thing is that you all were posting pictures of last night.

 

[arkansasmimi]

How do we know that the double doors in the NE part of the church were broken?

Someone found a link after I made my drawing confirming what I thought. And this is those doors at the end of that hallway That brown door openout is at room 8.

 

[Limaes]

In my mind, this is how I see it happening.

Perp is hiding behind door in dark room.
Missy enters room with hands full and leans against wall under wall switch as she reaches up to turn light switch on.
Perp has a perfect time to strike her over the head as she is steady, non-moving.
Depending on the power behind s/his hit as to what happens next.
Weak hit, she is dazed, but tries to run, however, she is too dizzy to run.
She tries to fight back, to no avail.
Powerful hit, she is unconscious from the start.

IMO, the suspect had plenty to say to her, and was talking the whole time! Not that Missy was aware of any of it. It was the killer getting his/her rage out.

My opinions only.

I have thought about whether she would have been knocked out after the first hit. However, I remember reading that there were small signs of a struggle so she put up a bit of a fight. You're right though, she was unable to make a run for it back out the door. Perhaps she was tackled to the ground first?

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[giagreen]

In my mind, this is how I see it happening.

Perp is hiding behind door in dark room.
Missy enters room with hands full and leans against wall under wall switch as she reaches up to turn light switch on.
Perp has a perfect time to strike her over the head as she is steady, non-moving.
Depending on the power behind s/his hit as to what happens next.
Weak hit, she is dazed, but tries to run, however, she is too dizzy to run.
She tries to fight back, to no avail.
Powerful hit, she is unconscious from the start.

IMO, the suspect had plenty to say to her, and was talking the whole time! Not that Missy was aware of any of it. It was the killer getting his/her rage out.

My opinions only.

I always pictured he hid behind a door also. I think Missy could of out ran him so I guess that's why I've always been stuck on him getting her from behind while hiding.

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[arkansasmimi]

Are you certain of the room numbers 6 and 8 on the north side of the building?

Yes I am

 

[Scout]

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Someone found a link after I made my drawing confirming what I thought. And this is those doors at the end of that hallway View attachment 94199 That brown door openout is at room 8.

Thanks, mimi. Very helpful!

 

[Bill Carson]

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See, I think the perp could park beside that tree on the left side of the picture, and Missy nor anybody else would have seen his/her car. And it would not have been visible from the road or the gun store. And especially if there were no cameras in the back of the building.

In fact, until someone shows me some proof that there were any exterior cameras other than the the one next to the doors under the awning (which was probably used to "buzz" people into the building during the week when the church office was open but they were not having services), then I am going to assume that there were no other exterior cameras, despite what the sign at the front of the property says.

IMOO

 

[leep]

Will be interesting to find out what they thought when they came across her. I can't imagine how horrible that was for them. Seeing blood and broken glass, it seems reasonable to me that they might have assumed accident of some kind as opposed to an attack.

But not a "car accident" i don't think....