TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #28

[arkansasmimi]

Just jumping off your post ArkansasMimi, hope you don't mind.

The morning before we (BB and Mother Tucker) knew anything had happened = Sunday, April 17th.

Three days before Missy was murdered, she showed "creepy" LinkedIn message to friend = Friday, April 15th.



http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-10&p=12528313#post12528313

:moo: It must have been BB or significant other family member (SIL, MIL), rather than a close girlfriend I had Assumed , that MB showed the "creepy" message on Friday before she was murdered :cow: Otherwise, what was the reason for the conversation regarding Missy's safety between BB and MT the day before MB was murdered?

Respectfully BBM, no problem and I agree.

I have often wondered about this post .. maybe this is who MB showed the message to while in Austin? Kin to RB in prior marriage. Would/could make sense, especially since it appears all the in laws/out laws appeared to still be friends at least on social media. JMHO

Missy Bevers
April 17 (Sunday 2:50 pm Central Time)· Cedar Hill, TX ·
Look who I had lunch with, while in Austin. It was great seeing you and those sweet pretty girls, XXXXXXXXXX! ❤️ https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...&set=a.3571350162298.169611.1229322185&type=3

 

[No it's not]

Looking forward to hearing where exactly MB was found by the fellow campers. If she was targeted, I would almost expect her to have been moved by the perp possibly into another room, possibly bathroom(s), if there are any close by. Why? To make it look like MB ran into the "burglar" as opposed to the perp was waiting for her inside the room/ location, where the workout would take place. If she was not moved and MB was found in a room other than where the workout would take place, then the burglary angle would have to be considered again.

Just kicking the can down the street.. (almost typed "cat", oh my)

-Nin

 

[arkansasmimi]

Wasn't that the January 3 post above? Re: MB feeling under the weather.

Exactly, that's why I posted it last night. Some are getting things they have read intertwined with other dates. Which is easy to do. But it does not make it factual. That's why we are suppose to have links unless it just someones opinion. JMHO

 

[SandyQLS]

Missy's last post was on April 17 at 9:23 pm. Here is what it said: ...SB.DM...
ETA - this is from a screenshot; time is Central Daylight Time (Texas )

Then hubby stated that they spoke on the phone from about 9:30 pm to about 10pm and she was falling asleep on the phone.

BB specifically said around 9:00 - 9:30 PM (thanks to Jsoeur) :

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Husband-of-Slain-Fitness-Instructor-Speaks-Publicly-376270351.html

"...BB: Yes. Every day for the last -- every day for the last 10 months, she`s made it a point to text me at work that she loves me and have a good day, honey. When I finally arrived in Biloxi around 7:30, which was later than I was supposed to be there, you know, I spoke to her, and she said good night, and it was still about 8:00. And I`d called her anyway probably around 9:00 or 9:30 to tell her I love her, and she was already half asleep, and that`s the last time I spoke to her...."

Thank goodness BB's exact phone records were obtained through the SW's so it is unnecessary to rely on BB's memory. This appears to be another contradiction - she was actively typing and posting on FB in the same time frame that BB claims she was "already half asleep".

JMO PC is born of contradictions, in some cases, maybe.

 

[11frogs]

Could you please provide a link? Thank you.

this was on BB page before he took it down.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Looking forward to hearing where exactly MB was found by the fellow campers. If she was targeted, I would almost expect her to have been moved by the perp possibly into another room, possibly bathroom(s), if there are any close by. Why? To make it look like MB ran into the "burglar" as opposed to the perp was waiting for her inside the room/ location, where the workout would take place. If she was not moved and MB was found in a room other than where the workout would take place, then the burglary angle would have to be considered again.

Just kicking the can down the street.. (almost typed "cat", oh my)

-Nin

I agree, that is one of the many things we are all waiting to hear (where found, who suspect is, male or female so forth ).

Per SW and MPD they knew from video where the Suspect was at the time MB was walking down the main hallway... so even though they may not have the actual assault on video, if MB was moved that could also be one of the things that only the Suspect would know. * also possible that if that scenario was to be true.. moving... possible there is something on video of Suspect doing something after the initial assault happened that they may have, again something only the Suspect would know. JMHO and this is as your post stated just Theory.. and speculation. We have no factual information in regards to this other than MB was located in SW corner of the building.

 

[Batbrat]

To those who suggest that there were 2 SP's at the scene but LE is keeping this information secret, can you explain how this would assist in identifying the killer(s)?

I understand that we can not reconcile BatBrat's work with the height estimates of LE being 5'2" to 5'7" and that the presence of another SP could be the reason. But it seems more likely that LE would wiggle on the height of SP to keep people from harassing the person in the cross hairs than to keep a second perp a secret. And LE has certainly wiggled on the height by giving out a 5 inch range of possibilities.

My opinion has always been that LE would never simultaneously ask for the public's help to identify someone and intentionally mislead the public about height. Their released estimates would put the subject well below half the population, eliminating the vast majority of men entirely. Think about it. Someone thinks they recognize the subject but doesn't bother to let LE know because that person is an average height male.

So that means either LE has accurate measurements and the subject really is that short, or they have miscalculated. IMO, no way would they intentionally mislead the public on this particular detail.

 

[Scout]

My opinion has always been that LE would never simultaneously ask for the public's help to identify someone and intentionally mislead the public about height. Their released estimates would put the subject well below half the population, eliminating the vast majority of men entirely. Think about it. Someone thinks they recognize the subject but doesn't bother to let LE know because that person is an average height male.

So that means either LE has accurate measurements and the subject really is that short, or they have miscalculated. IMO, no way would they intentionally mislead the public on this particular detail.

Completely agree. Suggesting otherwise is just wishful thinking (polite way to say foolishness, IMO).

 

[curiousjo]

My opinion has always been that LE would never simultaneously ask for the public's help to identify someone and intentionally mislead the public about height. Their released estimates would put the subject well below half the population, eliminating the vast majority of men entirely. Think about it. Someone thinks they recognize the subject but doesn't bother to let LE know because that person is an average height male.

So that means either LE has accurate measurements and the subject really is that short, or they have miscalculated. IMO, no way would they intentionally mislead the public on this particular detail.

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I just don't see how the LE can say SP 6 feet tall, then 5'7", then 5'2"! I still wonder if there are 2 SPs - a tall order male and short woman?

 

[GA_Peach]

My opinion has always been that LE would never simultaneously ask for the public's help to identify someone and intentionally mislead the public about height. Their released estimates would put the subject well below half the population, eliminating the vast majority of men entirely. Think about it. Someone thinks they recognize the subject but doesn't bother to let LE know because that person is an average height male.

So that means either LE has accurate measurements and the subject really is that short, or they have miscalculated. IMO, no way would they intentionally mislead the public on this particular detail.

With respect to the last paragraph, which one do you think it is? It would be odd for LE to ask for help in identifying a subject with the "wrong" height.

 

[Bootsctr]

Gosh! I am more confused than ever about SWAT perp's gender... Watching an old Western and wondering why real life can't be as simple as the bad guys wearing the black hats (think Jack Elam) and the good guys wearing the white hats (Marshall Dillon)... :sigh:

Kind of had in mind the perp looked like this... Back to the drawing board again! Perp may be more like Miss Kitty!

 

[Deleted member 718]

The search warrant stating she died of a wound to the head by an "unknown instrument" happened Monday night. The autopsy was 7:30 am Tuesday. There were no dogs searching on Monday - in fact the crime scene was reportedly wrapped up by about noon. But the news reported Wednesday pm that ATF had come into the investigation with their bomb and gun-residue sniffing dog Titan. So the dog search was apparently sometime between the completed autopsy and the Wednesday night prayer service.

JMO, but I believe the completed autopsy (with its results not public) led investigators to go back and check with Titan.

Jumping off your post (TY) I hadn't seen this video before. It's dated Thurs April 21 very early morning in Midlothian. So the doggy part would be from the day before Wed April 20. Listen carefully at :20 in the video. Reporter says LE is trying to match the distinctive walk to videos from the gun store a half mile away. (SWFA) LE wants to know if the perp shopped in the gun store prior to Missy's murder. Also reported that the federal agents and dogs were indeed searching for explosives.

Explosives! Not gun residue. So odd. What did they find at the church? SWFA sells Tannerite, an explosive used with target practice. It makes things blow up.

http://www.today.com/video/feds-joi...-bevers-texas-fitness-instructor-670661699846

http://swfa.com/Tannerite-C11928.aspx

 

[Bootsctr]

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I just don't see how the LE can say SP 6 feet tall, then 5'7", then 5'2"! I still wonder if there are 2 SPs - a tall order male and short woman?

That kind of makes sense to me too. Unless it is the incredible shrinking perp? We talked about the Nissan being a girl car...

 

[Bootsctr]

Jumping off your post (TY) I hadn't seen this video before. It's dated Thurs April 21 very early morning in Midlothian. So the doggy part would be from the day before Wed April 20. Listen carefully at :20 in the video. Reporter says LE is trying to match the distinctive walk to videos from the gun store a half mile away. (SWFA) LE wants to know if the perp shopped in the gun store prior to Missy's murder. Also reported that the federal agents and dogs were indeed searching for explosives.

Explosives! Not gun residue. So odd. What did they find at the church? SWFA sells Tannerite, an explosive used with target practice. It makes things blow up.

http://www.today.com/video/feds-joi...-bevers-texas-fitness-instructor-670661699846

http://swfa.com/Tannerite-C11928.aspx

They brought in dogs in Orlando to sniff for explosives too, so I'm wondering with the church being a "soft target" that it is now SOP to bring in dogs every time to check for explosives.

Tannerite is FUN! We have some. Bought it over the internet! Maybe we need to drive to Midlo next time and keep the business local. I love watching those Doomsday Prepper shows because they do simulations all the time and use A LOT of Tannerite to blow stuff up!!!

ETA: I can't get the video to play. It is just going around and around and around....

 

[Gwyndolyn]

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I just don't see how the LE can say SP 6 feet tall, then 5'7", then 5'2"! I still wonder if there are 2 SPs - a tall order male and short woman?

I think the original height was 5'8-5'9" so not quite as far off considering it was an estimate with gear. Jmo

“Investigators have been able to estimate the height of the suspect being approximately 5’08 – 5’09 tall.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fitness-...tinues-to-perplex-texas-police-002259586.html


In addition, I think the latest is still an estimated range.

Police estimate the intruder's height at between 5-feet-2-inches and 5-feet-7-inches

http://www.people.com/article/missy...tructor-murder-mother-in-law-hopes-for-arrest

 

[Elley Mae]

I think the originally height was 5'8-5'9" so not quite as far off considering it was an estimate with gear. Jmo



https://www.yahoo.com/news/fitness-...tinues-to-perplex-texas-police-002259586.html

I think they (le) are clueless, considering there has been no arrest. Not blaming them, they are at a loss. jmo idk Just my opine, it will not be solved. jmo idk

 

[arkansasmimi]

Jumping off your post (TY) I hadn't seen this video before. It's dated Thurs April 21 very early morning in Midlothian. So the doggy part would be from the day before Wed April 20. Listen carefully at :20 in the video. Reporter says LE is trying to match the distinctive walk to videos from the gun store a half mile away. (SWFA) LE wants to know if the perp shopped in the gun store prior to Missy's murder. Also reported that the federal agents and dogs were indeed searching for explosives.

Explosives! Not gun residue. So odd. What did they find at the church? SWFA sells Tannerite, an explosive used with target practice. It makes things blow up.

http://www.today.com/video/feds-joi...-bevers-texas-fitness-instructor-670661699846

http://swfa.com/Tannerite-C11928.aspx

JMHO don't want the church to blow up with a crowd of people coming in that night. JMHO . Creekside post of the Prayer service that night was posted at 1:18pm, and so JMHO they did not post the Prayer Service post to fb until after the Church interior and exterior was cleared.

 

[knowthings]

To those who suggest that there were 2 SP's at the scene but LE is keeping this information secret, can you explain how this would assist in identifying the killer(s)?

I understand that we can not reconcile BatBrat's work with the height estimates of LE being 5'2" to 5'7" and that the presence of another SP could be the reason. But it seems more likely that LE would wiggle on the height of SP to keep people from harassing the person in the cross hairs than to keep a second perp a secret. And LE has certainly wiggled on the height by giving out a 5 inch range of possibilities.

Some have suggested that SP is LE or a fire fighter but knowing many, many people in both LE and FF, SP appears to be too awkward for either duty. But what about an EMT?

. Hmmm, that does make more sense, not trying to be rude but our EMT's are rather large and out of shape, they frequent a lot of restaurants when on duty!

 

[Bootsctr]

Trying to be a Glass-half-full (red TYVM) kind of gal, if it is complicated, which I think it is, then LE has to have more than a hunch to tie this case up in a Big Pretty bow.

In reading the search warrants, I think they tried to cover all their bases (throw everything at the wall and see what sticks), and they got several names with the cell phones. Quite sure those mentioned in that little sting are not too happy with their names being on a SW. I'm thinking the real perp was not caught in that BIG net they were casting, and I guess still casting with NYPD and the StingRay. I'm very curious to see how they connect the dots, and I have faith that they will connect the dots.

 

[Scout]

Jumping off your post (TY) I hadn't seen this video before. It's dated Thurs April 21 very early morning in Midlothian. So the doggy part would be from the day before Wed April 20. Listen carefully at :20 in the video. Reporter says LE is trying to match the distinctive walk to videos from the gun store a half mile away. (SWFA) LE wants to know if the perp shopped in the gun store prior to Missy's murder. Also reported that the federal agents and dogs were indeed searching for explosives.

Explosives! Not gun residue. So odd. What did they find at the church? SWFA sells Tannerite, an explosive used with target practice. It makes things blow up.

http://www.today.com/video/feds-joi...-bevers-texas-fitness-instructor-670661699846

http://swfa.com/Tannerite-C11928.aspx

You're giving too much weight to the reporter's statement. The ATF K9 Titan is trained to search for explosives and firearms to include ammunition and ammunition components. It's already been confirmed that a firearm is associated with this case. In what capacity, we don't know, but, IMO, Titan was brought in to search for evidence regarding that firearm.

ETA link: https://www.atf.gov/about/k9/titan