AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SMK777]

Investigators make progress in Nancy Guthrie case, sheriff says

Sheriff does not plan any media availability:
Carrillo said no news conferences were planned, and the sheriff did not expect to have any media availability for the week of Feb. 23.

The sheriff's last news conference was Feb. 5.

Investigators make progress in Nancy Guthrie case, sheriff says

Investigators returned to Nancy Guthrie's Tucson neighborhood as the search for the missing 84-year-old entered its 22nd day.

www.yahoo.com

 

[flakesofsnow]

has anyone considered that the ransom note perps could have hacked into one of the LE computer systems to learn specific info about the case and details inside the house.

 

[rebel123]

has anyone considered that the ransom note perps could have hacked into one of the LE computer systems to learn specific info about the case and details inside the house.

I'm sure that there systems would be secure.
If it had happened then the 'alarm' would have been raised by now.

 

[SMK777]

has anyone considered that the ransom note perps could have hacked into one of the LE computer systems to learn specific info about the case and details inside the house.

I don't know if they're capable of doing that without detection. Maybe possible -- I'm not sure.

 

[flakesofsnow]

I'm sure that they, there systems would be secure.
If it had happened then the 'alarm' would have been raised by now.

I respectfully disagree.

 

[303gmf]

Yes between the maze of winding roads and the complete darkness they are forced to live in, someone local would know all of this and very easily be undetected strolling around at night. This case scared me so bad I now keep front and back porch lights on, motion floodlights and at least one room lit up on a timer. Sorry stargazers! Safety first!

Forced is an interesting choice of a word

 

[rebel123]

Tracks in the dirt outside NG house were posted a couple of days ago, on this thread, they were 'narrow', did anyone make sense of them?

 

[ab01]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025569001917796839

 

[Soccer Hooligan]

Why wouldn't search parties be welcome because the sheriff isn't doing them?

I wish Tim Miller and Equusearch would come in. I know it’s hard area to be searched - but he’s the man - imo.

 

[dennistakes14theteam]

has anyone considered that the ransom note perps could have hacked into one of the LE computer systems to learn specific info about the case and details inside the house.

I'm sure that there systems would be secure.
If it had happened then the 'alarm' would have been raised by now.

If it was a cop then it would be possible for them to know unreleased details and not raise alarms at their end

 

[ab01]

I wish Tim Miller and Equusearch would com in. I know it’s hard area to be searched - but he’s the man - imo.

I’m not sure there’s enough evidence for proper searches at this point.

I love Tim and the work he does is amazing, but I’m not sure now’s the time for that unfortunately. moo

 

[Sadi]

Good morning,
Did anyone watch Brian Entin’s update last night? Was there any big news? TIA

 

[aamillaa]

has anyone considered that the ransom note perps could have hacked into one of the LE computer systems to learn specific info about the case and details inside the house.

IMO, I think FBI worked with HL on his last statement - it was very put up or shut up. Nothing really left for the writer to say at this point, MOO.

Hoax or not, clearly the writer wants media attention. TMZ kept giving it. The last video HL made seem to signal that’s not happening anymore.

IMO, I think FBI convinced the family the notes (hoax or otherwise) are a dead end, for now at least. Family done cooperating with writer, not putting out any new videos. TMZ were the only ones still reacting. The last video made it seem like they wouldn’t anymore unless ransom not guy gives up what they know.

MOO

 

[aamillaa]

DBM

 

[Oldguy]

Have there been other unsolved disappearances of elderly people in the area?


Totally agree, this is 100% what I believe happened as well.
Immediately when I saw the footage, I got the vibe that this is what happened. Can't really explain why, just a horrible gut feeling.
What a terrible end for such a nice lady.
MOO

Yes. Someone asked if sexual assault would leave DNA off body. Well it likely would. But his backpack appears to contain tarps.
One goes under the victim.

This was so preventable. For example, she was just one loved German shepherd away from safety…

 

[aamillaa]

Hello folks...new here. I used to post on the EARONS forum. Got away from this fascinating stuff for a while but...can't stay away.
Regarding Nancy Guthrie...

My instinctive thoughts are:
1. Not a bungled burglary.
2. Not a ransom situation
3. Not a revenge on the family or the celebrity daughter.

This is, I believe, was a case of an offender with severe psychosexual issues, whose preferred victim(s) is an elderly woman. Nancy led a pretty open life. She was easy to find and surveil. She was incredibly vulnerable.

So on a night of a full moon, he struck. More accurately, he and his submissive sidekick (and likely) sometime sexual partner struck. (Partner probably a very dependent submissive male.)

The time within the house was the dominant partner doing his thing. Once completed...they could not leave a human with his DNA. So they exited with her. And no, Nancy is not with us.

Such offenders are not unknown...there was a guy in Philly a few years ago who selected elderly females.

I'm sorry to write these things-but they make sense to me and explain a lot of why nothing has turned up.

I hope I'm wrong. But I "knew" long before EAR was arrested that he was a cop, and then, a former cop. Based to a great extent on his ammunition selection.

I "knew" in 2004 that BTK was a local code enforcement officer. It just made sense to me.

Has this subject done this or something similar before? Almost certainly. What we know of the crime shows too much complexity and preparation for a first timer.

Will he (they) be caught? Probably. Eventually.

I would suggest that the bodies of any young men in Arizona who suffered a violent death in the near future be examined as a possible reference point to this crime. Tracing their network of acquaintances may lead to the dominant. Why do I say this? Partners, even dependent/submissive ones get antsy. And the dominant one would take care of business.

I hope I am wrong.

God bless her family and all who loved her...

Great post!

This was my initial thought. Some of the wonky-ness of the case (ransom note, etc) have made me reconsider other possibilities.

However, I think your theory makes the most sense and is the “simplest” answer outside of family being involved (and family has been cleared).

Whoever did this got very very lucky with the ransom notes bc (if they’re a hoax) the investigation seemed to really focus on them the first weekish or so. MOO

 

[K9Enzo]

I wish Tim Miller and Equusearch would come in. I know it’s hard area to be searched - but he’s the man - imo.

EquuSearch Texas is equipped and capable in AZ terrain (especially). However, Mr. Miller and team will not step foot in the search for NG unless specifically invited by LE. As it should be this way. IMO

 

[Sarahlou]

Yes. Someone asked if sexual assault would leave DNA off body. Well it likely would. But his backpack appears to contain tarps.
One goes under the victim.

This was so preventable. For example, she was just one loved German shepherd away from safety…

He had a gun and could have shot any dog.
I don't think this was that preventable. It could happen to anyone, but luckily it's incredibly rare.
I agree with you though in thinking this was probably sexually motivated.

 

[aamillaa]

Since there’s been some discussion on this exact topic here -

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025381117918941655

 

[Simply Southern]

Moo… the biological sample collect should have been sent to a lab that specializes in extracting mixed samples.

If he wasn’t gonna send to the FBI, I know where he should have sent ….its the BEST, MOST successful ….starts with “O”. It’s my very strong opinion.

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