TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #34

[Razz]

Razz, I think that you are exactly correct. In addition to the information extracted from MB's personal devices, I am sure that the "Targeted Numbers" were also based on LE's in-person interviews.

The affidavit for the SW states, "Affiant has further probable cause to believe that during the specified date range the "Target Numbers" did in fact have contact with Ms. Bevers." Based on information that can be independently verified, the "Target Numbers" do not represent every person who was in contact with Missy in the days leading up to her death. For example, we know that Missy was in Austin. The only other person from the Austin CG gathering listed in the SW was AT, but he obviously was not the only person with her in Austin (pictures from the Austin CG event can be found on MB's FB page). None of MB's family is listed in the SW. Missy's friend, who she saw immediately before she left for Austin and was later interviewed, was not included. However, RB & VB, who were in California for at least the week leading up to MB's death, were included as "Targeted Numbers." With all of that information, it is logical to conclude that the "Targeted Numbers" were not selected solely because the POI had been in contact with MB. There were clearly other things at play.

Razz, I agree with your assessment that they wanted to further invest things "that could be construed as vital to the case." In other words, LE wanted to investigate those with motive IMO. LE either needed to rule out the people with "Targeted Numbers" or investigate any leads that may be generated based on information unearthed on their devices. And that leads to the $64,000 question - did these people with "Targeted Numbers" pass muster?

ETA - It's interesting to note that LE stated that the "Target Numbers" were imperative in identifying the suspect.

Just adding to your great summary. The times requested in the SW on the TARGET PHONE #S is from March 1 to April 24, 2016.

That is quite a bit of time. All of them must have been burning up the cell phone wires during that period. No doubt something was brewing.

I think we've quasi discussed the Cozines. Were they good friends,
tax preparers, or what? What is their connection to MB and BB?
There was enough there for LE to request their #s.

Does anyone know?!

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[Camerabug]

who knows. No one is really saying.

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In my mind every day that passes is one day closer to justice for Missy. I saw a quote somewhere that said (paraphrasing) the hardest thing for a murderer was silence from the police. It leaves him/her wondering when they are coming...

 

[Razz]

In my mind every day that passes is one day closer to justice for Missy. I saw a quote somewhere that said (paraphrasing) the hardest thing for a murderer was silence from the police. It leaves him/her wondering when they are coming...

I agree. Hee, hee.

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[Camerabug]

Just adding to your great summary. The times requested in the SW on the TARGET PHONE #S is from March 1 to April 24, 2016.

That is quite a bit of time. All of them must have been burning up the cell phone wires during that period. No doubt something was brewing.

I think we've quasi discussed the Cozines. Were they good friends,
tax preparers, or what? What is their connection to MB and BB?
There was enough there for LE to request their #s.

Does anyone know?!

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It's late and right now I don't remember where I saw the quote-I will try to find it and link...but they are CG campers and claimed they had no idea why they were on the list. Maybe somebody else knows more.

 

[Cannonball3804]

I could see how maybe the SWFA camera might have picked up the lights of a car pulling into the church. Or that the sweep of lights across the interior of the church might have activated one of the interior cameras. But that wouldn't give them any insight on how long it took him to make entry into the building. He could have spent 5 minutes or 25 minutes around back. Might have sat in his car waiting for a lull in the rain. So time entering parking lot to time entering hallway doesn't seem like it would help LE determine how long he spent in the kitchen. And that's what I was wondering about specifically - how do they know that he spent a few minutes in the kitchen? I'm sure they can see evidence of things he did in there, but I don't see how that would give them a clue as to time spent.

On the SW it says "the murder of Terri "Missy" Leann Bevers between the hours of 3am-5am on April 18th. Are these approx hours since LE noted SP first seen IN the building at 3:50am or do you think they may have picked up car lights entering the parking lot from either SWFA cameras or from a camera inside CoC being activated?

Good question, but I think they have to be a little broader in a SW to make sure all the bases are covered. Too specific and they could run into issues at trial. They know that the murder didn't happen between 3 and 4, because they know she didn't even arrive until after 4:15. But the start of felony activity (the break-in) which ultimately led to murder - that began after 3 am. And the 911 calls were at 5 am. So I guess that's why they said 3 to 5.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

There must be something, right? What are we missing?

Maybe he/she left them some fresh cookies and cupcakes on the counter? [emoji4]

 

[Treelights]

In my mind every day that passes is one day closer to justice for Missy. I saw a quote somewhere that said (paraphrasing) the hardest thing for a murderer was silence from the police. It leaves him/her wondering when they are coming...

I agree every day that passes is one day closer to justice. On the other hand, I feel at times that this case won't be solved that soon. And that makes me sad.

IMOO.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Razz, I think that you are exactly correct. In addition to the information extracted from MB's personal devices, I am sure that the "Targeted Numbers" were also based on LE's in-person interviews.

The affidavit for the SW states, "Affiant has further probable cause to believe that during the specified date range the "Target Numbers" did in fact have contact with Ms. Bevers." Based on information that can be independently verified, the "Target Numbers" do not represent every person who was in contact with Missy in the days leading up to her death. For example, we know that Missy was in Austin. The only other person from the Austin CG gathering listed in the SW was AT, but he obviously was not the only person with her in Austin (pictures from the Austin CG event can be found on MB's FB page). None of MB's family is listed in the SW. Missy's friend, who she saw immediately before she left for Austin and was later interviewed, was not included. However, RB & VB, who were in California for at least the week leading up to MB's death, were included as "Targeted Numbers." With all of that information, it is logical to conclude that the "Targeted Numbers" were not selected solely because the POI had been in contact with MB. There were clearly other things at play.

Razz, I agree with your assessment that they wanted to further invest things "that could be construed as vital to the case." In other words, LE wanted to investigate those with motive IMO. LE either needed to rule out the people with "Targeted Numbers" or investigate any leads that may be generated based on information unearthed on their devices. And that leads to the $64,000 question - did these people with "Targeted Numbers" pass muster?

ETA - It's interesting to note that LE stated that the "Target Numbers" were imperative in identifying the suspect.

I think there are probably also warrants for other phone companies, with other target numbers listed, that just haven't been released yet.

 

[SteveS]

Cannonball "we know from what LE told BB and which he relayed in one of his first interviews, that the perp spent "a few minutes" in the kitchen. I am still unclear on how LE knows how many minutes he spent in the kitchen since it's off camera..."

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I don't think LE knows exactly how many minutes, nor is saying they know.

"A few minutes" is a vague indication of time. My take is that they simply ascertained some indication of activity there, which means some time had to be involved as well. Maybe they know it because there was a mess or paper towels on the floor where the perp dried off or wet spots on the floor or who knows what. And they may be able to define it somewhat if they see perp coming or going here or there on cam at certain specific times.

 

[SteveS]

5) question: could one obliterate traces of human blood with dog blood? Wash a garment several times and then introduce dog blood to muddy the waters and get inconclusive tests from certain spot tests while getting positive for dog blood in others. Overall scoring as dog blood?

If you're known to have been 1500 or more miles away when the human blood was spilled, then you don't have relevant human blood on your garments regardless. So this is pretty much moot. Just saying.

 

[Razz]

I think there are probably also warrants for other phone companies, with other target numbers listed, that just haven't been released yet.

Why do you think they haven't been released yet?

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[Cannonball3804]

...I think we've quasi discussed the Cozines. Were they good friends,
tax preparers, or what? What is their connection to MB and BB?
There was enough there for LE to request their #s...

It's late and right now I don't remember where I saw the quote-I will try to find it and link...but they are CG campers and claimed they had no idea why they were on the list. Maybe somebody else knows more.

K. Cozine has a FB that is not private, although his wife's is. It's obvious he has an interest in fitness from looking at his FB, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was a CG. No specific references on his FB to CG but lots of fitness references in general. And he has some kids roughly the same age as the Bevers kids so I don't know if the kids were friends or not.

It could be something as simple as a group text message that was on MB's phone from that weekend to/from her CG campers, and LE would have done an initial SW for all the people who were most recently in touch with her electronically.

 

[mcluver23]

Try bookmarking it. That's what I do and it works well.

I save it to my home screen, then I delete the old one. Works great for me! Always opens on the page I last read.

 

[DesiredJustice]

Not necessarily - if they had stock or options and sold them and didn't pay taxes at the time it was sold this could put them in a world of hurt. If they took out monies in a 401k could be reason for large tax bill. Missy might not even know that he had sold off anything if it's in his name because he wouldn't need her permission or signature.

Depends on the Plan. My 401 (k) Plan must have spouse signature to withdraw.

 

[Razz]

K. Cozine has a FB that is not private, although his wife's is. It's obvious he has an interest in fitness from looking at his FB, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was a CG. No specific references on his FB to CG but lots of fitness references in general. And he has some kids roughly the same age as the Bevers kids so I don't know if the kids were friends or not.

It could be something as simple as a group text message that was on MB's phone from that weekend to/from her CG campers, and LE would have done an initial SW for all the people who were most recently in touch with her electronically.

I disagree with you on this one. The SW requested historical data on the Target Phone #s from March 1 to April 24. This was after they extracted info from MB'S and BB phones and MB'S I pad. There was a reason they wanted historical data dating back to March 1 from ALL the Target #s. Something piqued MPD'S interest.

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[Jethro4WS]

Thanks to both of you for your replies. And that clarifies it, and makes sense - - the Stingray can't go back and get pings from the hours before and during the crime, but it can perhaps be helpful if they found that a burner phone was being used in those hours from the cell tower dump(s), and they can't otherwise identify who used that phone.

In that case, they hope that with the Stingray, they can cruise Midlothian and maybe elsewhere, and perhaps stumble across the burner phone itself, and thereby identify its owner. (Sounds to me like a needle in a haystack thing, but it's certainly better than nothing.)

Do I have that right?

Like a needle in a haystack. Heck, the tower dumps alone would be how many phones to begin with? They asked for dumps from all the towers within 5 miles from the church and since each tower generally has the best service within 6 miles of it. That would be all of the phones that are powered on (they don't have to have made a call only ping which they do about once a minute) within a 22 mile wide circle (maximum) with the church in the middle of that circle. Given the population of northern Ellis county that could be as much as 50,000 to 100,000 phones in that circle.

 

[Jethro4WS]

They can especially take - and most certainly already did IMO- the stingray to target locations, like the church, the CG camps around town, gun stores and outfitters, air-soft and paintball grounds, schools, gyms etc..

-Nin

Yes. I suppose that is what they did. Took it to specific locations because a StingRay has a limited range.

 

[Camerabug]

I think there are probably also warrants for other phone companies, with other target numbers listed, that just haven't been released yet.

Somewhere I viewed MPD saying that list of POI phones turned out to be nothing but the further in to the investigation on those numbers more POIs turned up. It was the pressed where the capable guy wore his police uniform instead of a button down shirt and tie..I can't even remember names now..I need to call it a day...

 

[Jethro4WS]

I could see how maybe the SWFA camera might have picked up the lights of a car pulling into the church. Or that the sweep of lights across the interior of the church might have activated one of the interior cameras. But that wouldn't give them any insight on how long it took him to make entry into the building. He could have spent 5 minutes or 25 minutes around back. Might have sat in his car waiting for a lull in the rain. So time entering parking lot to time entering hallway doesn't seem like it would help LE determine how long he spent in the kitchen. And that's what I was wondering about specifically - how do they know that he spent a few minutes in the kitchen? I'm sure they can see evidence of things he did in there, but I don't see how that would give them a clue as to time spent.

Unless ... well, I better not ... don't have time to rehash yesterday right now.

 

[WannaBDetective]

Don't be so fast to give up on your thought WannaBDetective. I still believe as others here do as well that there IS a second perp. AND if SP did have a cell phone I highly doubt they were calling Domino's to order a pizza.
Not being Snarky. Well maybe a little. Really not.

I'm at least 50/50 on an accomplice. That ratio keeps coming up unfortunately.
I hope they took their cell phone along. But with their careful planning. And no arrest thus far. I'm starting to think I may not be so lucky.
Do appreciate those versed in the legal side translating the practical meaning of some of these procedures.