TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #36

[TexasEx]

The video doesn't show someone who seems to be stealing anything. He or she sashays around banging on things for several minutes, seems to take nothing, and doesn't seem to be in a hurry. To me, this behavior is more in line with a killer waiting for his/her target than a burglar looking to find something valuable and leave quickly.

It was raining but this person appeared to drip no water from boots or clothing; that would take the care and planning that you might do for a murder but not a small-time burglary. I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk here about the lack of dripping rainwater.

The perp also managed to get out unseen, as far as we know, before boot camp students arrived. That could be some big luck for the perp, but also seems likely to represent knowledge of Missy's and her students' arrival schedules.

It just doesn't look like a burglary.

 

[Cannonball3804]

The video doesn't show someone who seems to be stealing anything. He or she sashays around banging on things for several minutes, seems to take nothing, and doesn't seem to be in a hurry. To me, this behavior is more in line with a killer waiting for his/her target than a burglar looking to find something valuable and leave quickly.

It was raining but this person appeared to drip no water from boots or clothing; that would take the care and planning that you might do for a murder but not a small-time burglary. I'm surprised there hasn't been more talk here about the lack of dripping rainwater.

The perp also managed to get out unseen, as far as we know, before boot camp students arrived. That could be some big luck for the perp, but also seems likely to represent knowledge of Missy's and her students' arrival schedules.

It just doesn't look like a burglary.

There isn't much to take in that church. That's something the perp might not have fully understood til after he broke in.

No particular hurry because at 4:15 you feel like you have easily 2 hours before it even starts to get light outside, and another couple of hours before business hours would begin.

As for the rain, we know the perp entered thru the kitchen. We know from LE that perp spent some time in the kitchen before venturing elsewhere. Per haps he dried off with kitchen towels. Or maybe there was a break in the rain at the point he broke in so he was still dry.

I don't consider it luck for him to get away before the campers arrived. MB got there 45 mins early because she's supposed to. My theory is MB and perp ran into one another almost immediately. Perp had plenty of time to get away because no camper is going to come to class 45 mins early just to hang around and do nothing.



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[ezrah]

I wonder why BB, KS changed their position about MB not being targeted? I think I recall BB saying that MBs wedding rings nor IPad were taken and the truck wasn't taken even though the keys were probably readily available.


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[TexasEx]

I wonder why BB, KS changed their position about MB not being targeted? I think I recall BB saying that MBs wedding rings nor IPad were taken and the truck wasn't taken even though the keys were probably readily available.


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If it was an interrupted burglary turned murder, maybe the burglar wouldn't want to get caught with the victim's belongings. Or it wasn't a burglary at all.

 

[ezrah]

Would it be plausible for a burglar to waste getaway time by beating a person to the point of death and possibly beyond ? SP was covered head to toe in a costume and the victim would not be able to ID them most likely anyway. Just thinking.


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[WannaBDetective]

FelineGinger, not sure what post(s) you're referencing. Most on here won't discuss anything but BB. Try to bring up alternative theories and all you hear are crickets.

But, LE has not stated that it wasn't a burglary. They have said there is no evidence that anything was taken. Which would not necessarily mean anything, if a burglar was interrupted by the unexpected arrival of Missy Bevers. If you're burgling a church, the last thing you're going to expect is for anyone to be there at 4 am on a Monday morning.

LE initially stated that they believed it to be a burglary or B&E gone wrong. A few days out from the murder, they were sure it was someone who knew MB and they focused all their energies in that direction as evidenced by the search warrants.

The last info we were given a few months ago regarding motive was that they were now coming back around toward "untargeted hit." That phrasing could apply to burglary or to B&E for other reasons such as vandalism, but with no specific targeting of MB herself. Wrong place, wrong time.

If MB and her killer did not know one another, then a lot of precious time and resources were spent chasing rabbits like BB, CW and CT. Hopefully the MPD has avoided "tunnel vision" and kept open minds concerning theories about this case.


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The phrase “untargetedhit” has intrigued me since they used it. I’m not an attorney so any professional insight is appreciated.

When you google it, really nothing related to crime comes up on the first 30-40 suggested pages. The term is connected to technical descriptions. In fact, three of the pages google directs youto are the Bevers case. Which I would read as Midlothian law enforcement using an unconventional, almost “custom” terminology.

Burglary or B&E don’t come first to mind, because that doesn’t seem to take the “hit”portion of the term into account. That’s not really what I think of when I hear the term. Hit to me connotates an attack on (most commonly on life.) And MB was attacked.

It’s almost an oxymoron. My thinking goes toward thrill kills or gang initiations or of the like. Where there is an attack but not against anyone particular individual, but whoever happens to be available.

 

[WannaBDetective]

It’s possible that LE is focusing on someone or some people in MB’s case (whether or not BB and/or family). It took about 8 months for Sievers’ husband to be arrested because LE was busy getting their ducks in a row (i.e. interviewing the deceased wife’s friend who was reporting the husband’s odd behavior as well as getting info on the guy(s) who actually carried out the murder). LE in that case did not announce they were focusing on the husband for a long time before his arrest – perhaps leaving people (the public) to believe they had no good leads, but in reality, they did. Let's hope that's the case for MB's murder.

http://www.news-press.com/story/new...vers-arrested-wright-pleas-25-years/80997770/

I think if we knew how much LE knows we’d be pretty surprised. You can’t put that many professional resources for that long on a relatively small area and not have a pretty good understanding of the landscape.

That’s why I believe them when they say they’re waiting/looking for that piece of evidence to move this thing forward.

BUT that couldtake a couple weeks or a couple years to get enough puzzle pieces yet.

 

[1&2&3]

This case still reminds me of the Dan Markel case in Florida where it seemed like a cold case for around 18 months. However, LE was busy tying up all the pieces and putting them together to make the first arrests. They are still working on trying to tie in the two suspected people who hired the hitmen and it is well over two years.

Let's hope that LE has a lot of information and they are trying to make the connections fit. Personally, I think BB made an alibi for himself too deep and went too far in establishing it. This has to have caught LE's attention. There is a reason he did this. . . We cannot throw away what is so evident and makes one question all the why's to his actions.

 

[KaaBoom]

This case still reminds me of the Dan Markel case in Florida where it seemed like a cold case for around 18 months. However, LE was busy tying up all the pieces and putting them together to make the first arrests. They are still working on trying to tie in the two suspected people who hired the hitmen and it is well over two years.

Those two cases would be similar if, 1. MB was shot in the head as she was getting out of her car at the church. That would be a classic method of operation of a hitman. 2. MB was going through a bitter divorce with child custody issues, and her ex husband had connections to organized crime, such as a friend or relative who was involved with robberies, drug dealing, murder, etc.

Without those connections, I fail to see any significant similarities in the two cases. I'm pretty sure the police knew who was responsible for Dan Markel's killing as soon as they started the investigation. I don't think the investigators in this case have a clue who killed MB, and they seem to be ignoring the obvious possibilities. IMHO there is absolutely zero evidence that MB was targeted.

 

[WannaBDetective]

I see targeting:
-In the meticulous planning and attention to detail that has been the cause of LE's befuddlement. Not sure you'd go through all that for a random hit.
-In the personal nature of the attack. To swing wildly at a victim's head and overall body, wherever you could land a shot, to me indicates the possibility of a random victim. To very specifically target the victims chest indicates something personal to me. We don't know whether chest means her rib cage or more specific exterior organs (sorry, don't know how to tactfully put that). But that would indicate to me a very personal and targeted attack.

 

[Bootsctr]

I don't consider it luck for him to get away before the campers arrived. MB got there 45 mins early because she's supposed to. My theory is MB and perp ran into one another almost immediately. Perp had plenty of time to get away because no camper is going to come to class 45 mins early just to hang around and do nothing.


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It always comes back to the part I bolded in your post. Per Midlothian PD FB timeline for MB's case, a participant in Camp Gladiator arrived at location at 4:35 which is 15 minutes after MB arrived and 25 minutes before class was to begin at 5:00 a.m.

https://www.facebook.com/1950470073...1462364174./10154082916172359/?type=3&theater

And from our WebSleuther catpatrol's fabulous timeline tyou: catpatrol)

04:16 AM – MB’s truck pulls into church parking lot

04:20 AM – MB enters church, first seen on camera

04:26 AM – AT posts to FB about CG class (FB)

04:35 AM – First CG camper arrives at church, waits in car in parking lot

05:00 AM – CG class scheduled to start

https://www.scribd.com/doc/311901273/Missy-Bevers-Timeline

So if perp knew MB's habits of arriving early or CG's requirement to "arrive early and stay late" s/he thought s/he had time to get away w/o being seen by campers, but s/he would not have known that a participant in the class would arrive 25 minutes early unless this particular camper was always early to class.

 

[Razz]

It always comes back to the part I bolded in your post. Per Midlothian PD FB timeline for MB's case, a participant in Camp Gladiator arrived at location at 4:35 which is 15 minutes after MB arrived and 25 minutes before class was to begin at 5:00 a.m.

https://www.facebook.com/1950470073...1462364174./10154082916172359/?type=3&theater

And from our WebSleuther catpatrol's fabulous timeline tyou: catpatrol)

04:16 AM – MB’s truck pulls into church parking lot

04:20 AM – MB enters church, first seen on camera

04:26 AM – AT posts to FB about CG class (FB)

04:35 AM – First CG camper arrives at church, waits in car in parking lot

05:00 AM – CG class scheduled to start

https://www.scribd.com/doc/311901273/Missy-Bevers-Timeline

So if perp knew MB's habits of arriving early or CG's requirement to "arrive early and stay late" s/he thought s/he had time to get away w/o being seen by campers, but s/he would not have known that a participant in the class would arrive 25 minutes early unless this particular camper was always early to class.

I am not understanding your comment (and I usually do). What are you saying or thinking here?

What does AT's post have to do
with your line of thinking?

Sorry, I'm having a case of momentary denseness.

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[Bootsctr]

I am not understanding your comment (and I usually do). What are you saying or thinking here?

What does AT's post have to do
with your line of thinking?

Sorry, I'm having a case of momentary denseness.

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lol! I started to put in my post does that make sense...

I think I am trying to say that the early camper could have seen the perp or a vehicle. That perp did not have "plenty of get away time" is what I am thinking. I did not mean to include CT's time post. I think it is irrelevant at this point. Watched the ID show about the Kaufman County murders of 2 prosecutors. They brought in a hypnotist in that case too. The murder of one of the prosecutors and his wife was described as a home-invasion type assault.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaufman_County_murders

You're not dense at all. I'm having a hard time transcribing my thoughts in a sensible manner. It bothers me that BB has such a neat and tidy alibi. It bothers me that he said he didn't think MB was targeted while his family said they did think MB was targeted. Then he changes his mind that she was targeted. The gist of it is there are a lot of little things bothering me about this case. Together they don't necessarily make me think BB had anything to do with MB's murder, but there is nothing really reassuring me that he is innocent. I do believe MB was targeted and I just think there are more than one that wanted her dead.

Sorry for the rambling! So ready for an arrest...

 

[tbs]

I find myself coming back to the same question I can not seem to answer or get out of my head. If CG Camper came early s/he had to have seen the SP leaving the church. From all the wonderful layouts of the church that have been posted here there is only one enter/exit to the church parking lot (if my memory serves me correctly), so someone leaving in a hurry had to be seen and or noticed by the camper/s. IMO Here is where my minds starts to go wild what if the SP never left the church and just changed somewhere in the church and joined all the campers that where showing up as if s/he was or is a CG Camper. I know this is far fetched and is just my mind trying to make sense of all that we know. Again this is JMO.

 

[Bootsctr]

I find myself coming back to the same question I can not seem to answer or get out of my head. If CG Camper came early s/he had to have seen the SP leaving the church. From all the wonderful layouts of the church that have been posted here there is only one enter/exit to the church parking lot (if my memory serves me correctly), so someone leaving in a hurry had to be seen and or noticed by the camper/s. IMO Here is where my minds starts to go wild what if the SP never left the church and just changed somewhere in the church and joined all the campers that where showing up as if s/he was or is a CG Camper. I know this is far fetched and is just my mind trying to make sense of all that we know. Again this is JMO.

You are correct - there is only one entrance/exit to the church parking lot. I have entertained the same theory that SP never left the church and simply joined the other campers w/o being noticed in the frenzy after finding MB bloody and surrounded by broken glass. Just my opinion too.

I know we have discussed the reasons a camper might arrive 25 minutes early to class and sit there before getting out of their vehicle and entering the church. However, this is one of the things that I find bother me, someone waiting so long to go into the church. What did this person see when they arrived at the church? MB's truck there under the porte cochere and I think probably obvious she was still unloading equipment. Was this person distracted by their phone? Was there some gut instinct of "something is not quite right here" because they did not see MB going in and out of the church unloading equipment? This is just weird to me, but maybe it is me that is weird. JMO.

 

[tbs]

You are correct - there is only one entrance/exit to the church parking lot. I have entertained the same theory that SP never left the church and simply joined the other campers w/o being noticed in the frenzy after finding MB bloody and surrounded by broken glass. Just my opinion too.

I know we have discussed the reasons a camper might arrive 25 minutes early to class and sit there before getting out of their vehicle and entering the church. However, this is one of the things that I find bother me, someone waiting so long to go into the church. What did this person see when they arrived at the church? MB's truck there under the porte cochere and I think probably obvious she was still unloading equipment. Was this person distracted by their phone? Was there some gut instinct of "something is not quite right here" because they did not see MB going in and out of the church unloading equipment? This is just weird to me, but maybe it is me that is weird. JMO.

I agree with you on this. I think that first CG Camper could have saw a lot and not even realize it. I would become a little curious myself if I had arrived early and saw MB's truck but never saw MB herself come back out to load or unload the equipment. (But that's my investigative/curious ways) My other question is was the truck running with head lights on? Does it look like MB would be coming right back out? If it did look like she was and then never did, I would become a little cautious and suspicious as too where she was. JMO

 

[Razz]

You are correct - there is only one entrance/exit to the church parking lot. I have entertained the same theory that SP never left the church and simply joined the other campers w/o being noticed in the frenzy after finding MB bloody and surrounded by broken glass. Just my opinion too.

I know we have discussed the reasons a camper might arrive 25 minutes early to class and sit there before getting out of their vehicle and entering the church. However, this is one of the things that I find bother me, someone waiting so long to go into the church. What did this person see when they arrived at the church? MB's truck there under the porte cochere and I think probably obvious she was still unloading equipment. Was this person distracted by their phone? Was there some gut instinct of "something is not quite right here" because they did not see MB going in and out of the church unloading equipment? This is just weird to me, but maybe it is me that is weird. JMO.

That is true if SP left by car.

I don't know if we spoke about this but what if SP hi tailed it around back, hid in the bushes got out of the clothes and waited for the action to subside to then escape?

Maybe there was supposed to be someone to pick her/him up but they were deterred by all the action.

So if SP was hiding outside, how did he/she eventually get away? With clothes and helmet? Would they go back under cover of darkness to retrieve these items or was the church under constant surveillance at the time?

There had been talk that one of the campers called BB. I don't know that I find that suspicious. Friends often times have the spouse's # and they may not have been aware BB was off on a fishing trip. But if you had discovered your friend beaten to death, would you call their husband? After calling for police? I can't honestly say either way.

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[Bootsctr]

I agree with you on this. I think that first CG Camper could have saw a lot and not even realize it. I would become a little curious myself if I had arrived early and saw MB's truck but never saw MB herself come back out to load or unload the equipment. (But that's my investigative/curious ways) My other question is was the truck running with head lights on? Does it look like MB would be coming right back out? If it did look like she was and then never did, I would become a little cautious and suspicious as too where she was. JMO

I too wonder if she had left the truck running because I don't think she would leave her truck parked there. She would have unloaded and then parked her truck in the parking lot. I guess. Then again it was raining and maybe she never planned on moving the truck. That would be a no parking zone though. Personally I could not see myself arriving early and not getting out to help her unload. How likely would you have called someone for backup if you never saw MB come back out to finish unloading equipment? I suppose if you know other people are coming to the class you would delay calling LE.

 

[tbs]

That is true if SP left by car.

I don't know if we spoke about this but what if SP hi tailed it around back, hid in the bushes got out of the clothes and waited for the action to subside to then escape?

Maybe there was supposed to be someone to pick her/him up but they were deterred by all the action.

So if SP was hiding outside, how did he/she eventually get away? With clothes and helmet? Would they go back under cover of darkness to retrieve these items or was the church under constant surveillance at the time?

There had been talk that one of the campers called BB. I don't know that I find that suspicious. Friends often times have the spouse's # and they may not have been aware BB was off on a fishing trip. But if you had discovered your friend beaten to death, would you call their husband? After calling for police? I can't honestly say either way.

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I don't think SP would have stayed and hid, because my first thought is LE established a perimeter around the church and would have searched the surrounding area for suspects escape route or if SP dropped murder weapon/costume etc.. It would not be safe for SP to stay or come back IMO. Although in alot of cases LE would watch who is at a scene and who is watching behind the yellow tape, because some suspects do stay around and do try to add themselves to the investigation for the thrill and to know what way LE is heading in (in terms of a suspect).

 

[tbs]

I too wonder if she had left the truck running because I don't think she would leave her truck parked there. She would have unloaded and then parked her truck in the parking lot. I guess. Then again it was raining and maybe she never planned on moving the truck. That would be a no parking zone though. Personally I could not see myself arriving early and not getting out to help her unload. How likely would you have called someone for backup if you never saw MB come back out to finish unloading equipment? I suppose if you know other people are coming to the class you would delay calling LE.

That is true my 1st thought would not be let me call LE, it would be let me call MB and see where she is if she needs any help unloading then when the phone call was not picked up then my suspicious meter would start going off crazy and I would be looking all around (while sitting in my car of course) nobody likes to get wet from the rain. But I could not for sure say what I would do unless I was in that situation. JMO