UK - 22 dead in explosion at Ariana Grande gig, Manchester, 22 May 2017 #1

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JUST IN: A Libyan security spokesman says the father of the Manchester bomber has been arrested in Tripoli.
 
  • #742
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/24/manchester-attack-latest-detectives-hunt-terror-network/
Live

Manchester attack latest: Bomber's brother 'was aware of all details' and 'planned own terror attack'
A fifth suspect, believed to be carrying a package, has been arrested in Wigan today as detectives probe a "network" linked to the Manchester suicide bomber.
The man was taken into custody in connection with Monday night's attack and officers are assessing the package, Greater Manchester Police said
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  • #743
Now the New York Times is leaking the pictures taken of evidence at the scene, taken by UK police forensic officers. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...e/manchester-arena-bomb-materials-photos.html

I have been disgusted by the fact that everything we have shared in good faith with the US authorities is being leaked to the press.

If US posters on here want to do something to help, I suggest that you contact your political representatives and tell them to use their influence to stop this happening.

I am truly appalled by the behaviour of our so-called ally.
 
  • #744
Another article where free counselling is being offered to children and parents in the wake of the Manchester bombing:

From article:

"Prendergast, a relationship therapist for 12 years, said it was extremely important that individuals talk to trained professionals."

“The difficulty for young people [is that] children find it very hard to navigate their feelings as they don’t know what they should be feeling and for adults it’s important to be mindful to help children deal with their feelings", she said."


http://www.news24.com/World/News/br...selling-following-manchester-attacks-20170523

Here is their website: http://talklistenchange.org.uk/all-services/counselling-for-you

Here in the States they have brought therapy dogs into the classroom, for example in Abby's and Libby's case, iirc.
 
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JUST IN: A Libyan security spokesman says the father of the Manchester bomber has been arrested in Tripoli.

I'm not sure if this is accurate. Sky news are reporting the BROTHER of the bomber has been arrested in Tripoli
 
  • #746
Okay I am not surprised that the suicide bomber was known to LE. It seems like we hear this so many times. Something needs to change as far as when LE/FBI can step in after finding out someone is radicalized.

My sister was being harassed by a radical Islamist on Facebook because she is in charge of a church outreach that is not Muslim. She had no idea who he was. Somehow she ended up on his radar. He left her audio messages through Facebook,and one of them he hadn't known was being recorded. He was talking to another man about her. He said he was coming to her house.

We checked out his Facebook and through research found out he had two profiles. An American one, and the other one was in Arabic. He was from Pakistan and Iraq. Very disturbing photos of children holding machine guns and The Boston marathon bombing. He was making it look like a joke. It freaked her out. It freaked my whole family out.

She contacted the FBI and after they looked into him they told her they had already known about him. They were aware of his activities and put him on the "no fly list." She had to cancel all her social media and they told her to buy a gun. There wasn't much else they could do. The terrorists pretty much have to commit the crime before they can arrest them. Unless citizens report everything they find suspicious, I don't know how they can be stopped. It's very frustrating.

Qmfr:

There's a great article somewhere I read about a woman who went undercover online as a possible isis recruit iirc...creepcrusher the story is similar, half asleep, marking spot to find and post tomorrow...

Foxfire tal I ed a lot about the ISIS online recruitment process. I actually sent him an article about the heavy duty codes they operate behind...zzzz


Skyping with the enemy: I went undercover as a jihadi girlfriend

When a French journalist posed online as a young woman interested in Isis, she was soon contacted by a fighter in Syria. He proposed marriage – but could she maintain a double life?


"It was 10 o’clock on a Friday night in spring 2014 and I was sitting on the sofa in my one-bed Paris apartment when I received a message from a French terrorist based in Syria: “Salaam alaikum, sister. I see you watched my video. It’s gone viral – crazy! Are you Muslim? What do you think about mujahideen?”

A journalist, I had been writing about European jihadis in*Islamic State*for about a year. I created a social media account, using the name Mélodie, to investigate why European teenagers were attracted to Islamic extremism. I spent hours scanning feeds filled with descriptions of gruesome plans. I had spent that night on my couch, flicking from account to account, when I came across a video of a French jihadi who looked about 35. He wore military fatigues and called himself Abu Bilel. He claimed to be in Syria.

I would later learn that he had spent the past 15 years waging jihad all over the world. But for the moment, I knew nothing of the bellicose man on my screen, proudly unveiling the contents of his SUV glove box: a thick stack of Syrian pounds, candy, a knife. He removed his reflective Ray-Bans, revealing darkly lined, black eyes. I knew that Afghan soldiers wore kohl around their eyes. Still, seeing a terrorist with eyes made up like my own was surprising. He was good-looking. He spoke perfect French, with what to me sounded like a very slight Algerian accent. He smiled broadly as he beckoned viewers and called for*hijrah: leaving a land of unbelievers to join an Islamist country.



<modsnip>

This is an edited extract from In The Skin Of A Jihadist, by Anna Erelle, published by Harper Collins next week in ebook and on 4 June at £12.99 in paperback.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rnalist-poses-muslim-convert-isis-anna-erelle

*************************************


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/undercover-journalist-anna-erelle-recruited-by-isis/


<modsnip>
 
  • #747
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-england-manchester-40007967
[h=2]Summary[/h]
  • The government raises the UK terror threat level to its highest level of "critical"
  • Five people arrested in the UK, and two in Libya
  • Police say it's clear the bomber was linked to "a network"
  • Suspected suicide bomber named as Salman Abedi, 22, a UK-born student of Libyan extraction
  • Twenty-two people died in Monday's attack and 64 were injured
 
  • #748
I'm not sure if this is accurate. Sky news are reporting the BROTHER of the bomber has been arrested in Tripoli


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-security-manchester-father-idUSKBN18K2IR?il=0
The father of the attacker who killed 22 people in a suicide bombing in Manchester has been arrested in the Libyan capital Tripoli, according to a counter-terrorism force spokesman and a witness.

The counter-terrorism force detained Ramadan Abedi outside his home in the Tripoli suburb of Ayn Zara on Wednesday afternoon. An eyewitness said he was handcuffed by armed men who drove him away in two unmarked vehicles.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40032504
In Libya, the bomber's father, Ramadan, and younger brother, Hashem, have been arrested, Reuters is reporting.

Hashem, 20, was reportedly arrested in the capital Tripoli on suspicion of links with so-called Islamic State, according to Reuters.
Older brother, Ismael, was detained in Chorlton, south Manchester, on Tuesday.
Their father was in Tripoli when he was arrested, Reuters has told the BBC.
 
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I've been watching sky news for about the last 3 hours, they still haven't said his father was arrested too. Just the brother, it just went across the ticker again. Weird!!

[video=twitter;867431685016760320]https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/867431685016760320[/video]

Posted an hour ago! Yet still no mention of it on the news channel?!

Serves me right for deciding to sit on the couch and watch the news instead of being on my computer.
 
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  • #752
On the Daily Mail it says the bomber's dad and younger brother were arrested.

ANYONE who knew about or helped with this attack should never see daylight again..
 
  • #753
Manchester bomber Salman Abedi's father and brothers arrested, linked to ISIS, Al Qaeda

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...eda-linked-group-ex-libyan-official-says.html

Hashim Abedi, who was born in 1997, was arrested in Tripoli on Wednesday evening by the Libyan counter-terrorism force Rada on suspicion of links to the Islamic State, and was planning a new attack on the Libyan capital,*a government spokesman told Reuters on Wednesday.

The father of the bomber was arrested in Tripoli on Wednesday, a Libyan security spokesman told The Associated Press. The father,*Ramadan Abedi, had said another brother of the bomber, Ismail, was arrested Tuesday.
 
  • #754
An American Musical Artist....

Do these guys have any ties to the States?
 
  • #755
On the Daily Mail it says the bomber's dad and younger brother were arrested.

ANYONE who knew about or helped with this attack should never see daylight again..

Does that leave a brother, sister,mother?
 
  • #756
Using documents obtained from inside Islamic State, we have been investigating for a year how this group was radicalised, and who did the radicalising.

Information in the 'IS Files' - a huge cache of documents obtained by Sky News - shows how a baby-faced IS fighter called Raphael Hostey, from Moss Side in the south of the city, sponsored hundreds of terror recruits.

http://news.sky.com/story/mancheste...-abedi-linked-to-key-uk-is-recruiter-10891692

Although his death has not been confirmed by UK authorities, Hostey is thought to have been killed by a drone strike in Syria last year at the age of 24.


More at link...
 
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An American Musical Artist....

Do these guys have any ties to the States?

I don't know, but I've been thinking about this and I'm surprised he didn't wait until the Take That gig. As someone mentioned pages ago, is the 22nd significant?
 
  • #759
They probably chose the Ariana Grande gig over the Take That gig because -

a) Ariana Grande is more internationally high-profile.

b) Ariana Grande attracted a very young audience and killing children will be extra shocking to the public.

And possibly -

c) They think that female popstars are immodest and that they encourage other girls to be immodest too.

d) Ariana Grande's gig fell on the anniversary of Lee Rigby's death.
 
  • #760
Now the New York Times is leaking the pictures taken of evidence at the scene, taken by UK police forensic officers. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...e/manchester-arena-bomb-materials-photos.html

I have been disgusted by the fact that everything we have shared in good faith with the US authorities is being leaked to the press.

If US posters on here want to do something to help, I suggest that you contact your political representatives and tell them to use their influence to stop this happening.

I am truly appalled by the behaviour of our so-called ally.

You are not alone. I have been appalled by the behavior of our MSM too.

I am ashamed of their behavior, and I am so sorry they have leaked the evidence that should have remained private, but, sadly, I am not at all shocked they did so.:(
 
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