UK - 39 bodies found in lorry container, Essex, 23 Oct 2019 #2

[CSIDreamer]

Trying to find out exactly how many lorry's they actually have in total, can't find details of operators licence as that would give us a good clue on how many trucks and trailers they can operate, think I'm missing the exact name and address the two companies are using at present!!!!

I swear someone said 9. I also could have dreamed that up.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Essex lorry deaths: Vietnamese police arrest another person

Another Vietnamese arrest. This brings the total to 11 Vietnamese arrests.

 

[Scorpio1]

I swear someone said 9. I also could have dreamed that up.

That was around the number i had in mind around 8 or 9 units each as neater are a big outfit,

 

[HayLouise]

This week we welcomed a delegation of Vietnamese Police and officials who met with officers involved in the investigation.

Pictured here is DCC Pippa Mills and Col Tran Van Du from the Vietnamese Police.

Our latest update can be found on our website:

Investigation launched after 39 people found dead in lorry container | Essex Police



Essex Police on Twitter

 

[HayLouise]

Update: Tuesday 5 November 2019 18:00

ACC Tim Smith, the senior police officer in overall charge of the investigation in to the deaths of 39 men and women discovered at Grays, Essex, on Wednesday 23 October, said: "Essex Police is continuing to progress the complex investigation in to the circumstances which led to 39 people being found dead in a lorry in Grays.

"We are working with national and international partners to get answers for the friends and family of those who died and bring all those responsible to justice.

This week we welcomed a delegation of Vietnamese Police and officials who met with officers involved in the investigation.

"The identities of the victims remain unconfirmed, however we have worked closely with Vietnamese Police over the last two days and anticipate presenting cases to the Identification Commission which is overseen by Her Majesty’s Senior Coroner for Essex Caroline Beasley-Murray.

"It’s an important process which is the culmination of hours of meticulous work by a dedicated team to provide evidence to be presented at the commission.

"Our priority continues to be to the thorough and meticulous investigation into the criminality that resulted in the death of the victims, to preserve the dignity of those who have died and to support their friends and family.”

Investigation launched after 39 people found dead in lorry container | Essex Police

 

[Sillybilly]

FYI ...

Discussion about the video issue that members are experiencing have been moved over to the Forum Finesse thread found here.

 

[PS136]

Trying to find out exactly how many lorry's they actually have in total, can't find details of operators licence as that would give us a good clue on how many trucks and trailers they can operate, think I'm missing the exact name and address the two companies are using at present!!!!

What’s the betting they are ‘piggy backing’ on someone else’s O license? That’s if they haven’t got one? Probably why you can’t find one, as they are based at another haulier’s premises.

 

[CSIDreamer]

What’s the betting they are ‘piggy backing’ on someone else’s O license? That’s if they haven’t got one? Probably why you can’t find one, as they are based at another haulier’s premises.

Listed as freight transport

C HUGHES LOGISTICS LTD. - Overview (free company information from Companies House)

 

[Noseyjosie]

Operators Licence details........Sign in to your Vehicle Operator Licensing account


ON1140332 Standard International
C HUGHES LOGISTICS LTD

ON1140332 SI (83)

C HUGHES LOGISTICS LTD T/A GENERAL HAULAGE Director(s): CHRISTOPHER HUGHES.

353 MONAGHAN ROAD, MIDDLETOWN , ARMAGH BT60 4JQ Operating Centre: 353 MONAGHAN ROAD, MIDDLETOWN , ARMAGH BT60 4JQ Authorisation:3 Vehicle(s) and 4 Trailer(s). Transport Manager(s): ANGELA MCELDUFF New Undertaking: The operator will not carry out operations other than traction only work and will never keep a trailer at the nominated operating centre at 353 Monaghan Road, Middletown, Armagh, BT60 4JQ.. Attached to Licence.

Publication: A&D Northern Ireland(87), Application Granted

Date: 30 Oct 2015

 

[PS136]

Operators Licence details........Sign in to your Vehicle Operator Licensing account


ON1140332 Standard International
C HUGHES LOGISTICS LTD

ON1140332 SI (83)

C HUGHES LOGISTICS LTD T/A GENERAL HAULAGE Director(s): CHRISTOPHER HUGHES.

353 MONAGHAN ROAD, MIDDLETOWN , ARMAGH BT60 4JQ Operating Centre: 353 MONAGHAN ROAD, MIDDLETOWN , ARMAGH BT60 4JQ Authorisation:3 Vehicle(s) and 4 Trailer(s). Transport Manager(s): ANGELA MCELDUFF New Undertaking: The operator will not carry out operations other than traction only work and will never keep a trailer at the nominated operating centre at 353 Monaghan Road, Middletown, Armagh, BT60 4JQ.. Attached to Licence.

Publication: A&D Northern Ireland(87), Application Granted

Date: 30 Oct 2015

The numbers do not match...
MR Scania
EH Scania
Two inc a green seized last week
Two today seized....
All apart from EH were pulling a trailer which were all also seized.
We are missing the Blue Bullnose Scania.

If they are all belonging to Hughes then we have more than what is down on the O licence...
Also where have they been? In the hours following MR arrest in Essex the press went to the company address. Two red/white trucks were seen but were in disrepair imo. Yet days later they were gone. No other trucks were there. So where were they? We know 2 came into Dublin port from overseas either in U.K. or Europe.

They are either owned or leased/HP by owner drivers but with Hughes name on? Doubtful tbh. Most OD would not have another company name on their trucks. Also they wouldn’t be on Hughes O Licence.

 

[PS136]

Essex lorry brothers hunted by gangsters who want to 'get them before cops do'

 

[PS136]

Armagh brothers wanted over Essex deaths still cannot be arrested in Republic

What is going on? I understand that a lot will be going on behind the scenes.

 

[HayLouise]

Armagh brothers wanted over Essex deaths still cannot be arrested in Republic

What is going on? I understand that a lot will be going on behind the scenes.

From link:

'However, it is believed that gardaí do not have the power to arrest them because Essex Police have not yet obtained a European Arrest Warrant (EAW).

The EAW, which can often take weeks to be processed, is required because the alleged crimes were not committed in the Republic.'

Armagh brothers wanted over Essex deaths still cannot be arrested in Republic

 

[HayLouise]

BBC Essex
@BBCEssex

Essex Police are a step closer to identifying the thirty-nine people found dead in the back of a lorry in #Grays - Investigators are set to present cases to the coroner following a visit from Vietnamese police and officials.

BBC Essex on Twitter

 

[HayLouise]

Việt Nam News

@VietnamNewsVNS

Visa waivers for victims' families in #Essexlorry tragedy: UK http://vietnamnews.vn/society/538030/visa-waivers-for-victims-families-in-essex-lorry-tragedy-uk.html… #Vietnam #Essex #HumanTrafficking #Grays

Việt Nam News on Twitter

 

[HayLouise]

6 November 2019

“In light of the tragic circumstances, arrangements are in place to support those family members of victims… These include a visa fee waiver and assistance on the ground in Việt Nam for those who need help with their visa applications, which will be expedited when received,” according to the Home Office.

The announcement was made following a meeting between Vietnamese deputy foreign minister Tô Anh Dũng and the UK Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Minister for Asia and the Pacific, Heather Wheeler.

Visa waivers for victims' families in Essex lorry tragedy: UK

 

[HayLouise]

Viet Nam Diplomacy
@MOFAVietNam

DFM #ToAnhDung worked w/
@HeatherWheeler
@SeemaKennedy
&
@MennaRawlings
on Essex lorry case, expresses gratitude to

competent authorities for close cooperation; affirms that

will carry out all necessary measures if needed for citizen protection;

combating #humantrafficking

Viet Nam Diplomacy on Twitter

 

[Coach]

Is this the company in question? https://vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/451973

 

[Coach]

Sorry, typo Vehicle Operator Licensing

 

[CaptainNancy]

The Hughes Lorry in the picture here ronan o haodha haulage is the one that is in the background of the picture on MR’s Facebook page the first time he posts a picture of ‘his’ red lorry. Which he then seems to park at his house. And doesn’t have the Hughes name on the cab.