UK - 39 bodies found in lorry, Essex, 23 October 2019

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  • #981
...Based on another report they were in early rigor it appears the timetable for the text fits. So. 3 potential causes of death........JMO.

if the process of rigor had started, then i dont believe they could have been frozen.
 
  • #982
Regarding the length of time , there was a link earlier talking about code used by the girls family on Facebook about how the trip was going and I think it translated as ;not going well but it’s nearly Spring (meaning she was nearly in uk) and also a link saying she’d tried to arrive the day before but it didn’t come off
 
  • #983
Thank you guys for the answers! The difference in some news articles makes it confusing. :)
 
  • #984
Apparently it was the perfect place to let them out, along a quiet road with no cctv.

I think that’s probably exactly the spot he was planning to let them out. Answers the question of why he’d have broken the seal also.

upthread somewhere was also a link to something saying MR’s truck had been in that location frequently in the preceding weeks - so perhaps that’s ‘the’ spot for lots of these awful operations.

JMO
 
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  • #986
#Breaking Belgium #police have identified the truck driver who drove the ill-fated container carrying the 39 migrants found dead in Essex to the ferry in Zeebrugge...The man is an Irish national...

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  • #987
From the nature of the charges and the number of people involved, it seems likely we are dealing with an experienced people smuggling ring
As this is an experienced group, led to me believe something went wrong on this occasion.
There's no doubt that something went wrong! :eek:
Or perhaps that was where he was to let them out? Unlikely I suppose, so close to terminal
Seems pretty clear that it was, but I was wondering whether he might have come up with a feasible cover story for opening the trailer.
 
  • #988
if the process of rigor had started, then i dont believe they could have been frozen.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that they were literally frozen. Rather that they may have died of cold, i.e. hypothermia.
 
  • #989
This chap seems to be on the ball.
 
  • #990
  • #991
Brutal.
And I’m shocked by how much the journey was! This is a very profitable industry. Just feel naive here...

Unscrupulous people have always found a way to make money from the vulnerable. Now we now why he has such a nice house, imho
 
  • #992
Unscrupulous people have always found a way to make money from the vulnerable. Now we now why he has such a nice house, imho
Agreed.
And I think it would make sense that some of the money was fronted by the perpetrators with jobs promised.
 
  • #993
  • #994
I hope they can go right up the chain to catch them all !
 
  • #995
i can't believe he's now been charged!!
 
  • #996
Tra My's plan when she got to the UK was to work in a nail salon,

They paid at each leg of the journey , so I presume she phoned home each bit of the trip then parents pay . Hopefully there’ll be bank accounts then or how would they pay each time that the police can follow
 
  • #997
Re: movement in the truck, I'm a horse trainer and haul all sorts of things all the time. 39 bodies, most in a stage of rigor mortis would NOT be rolling around the back of the trailer. 39 bodies should cover the floor pretty well to minimize space to roll around in, and in a state of unconsciousness or "dead weight" (sorry for the analogy), they wouldn't move at all unless the driver was doing some VERY wild driving.
 
  • #998
Are there any updates on the Mahers?
 
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