UK - 39 bodies found in lorry, Essex, 23 October 2019

[LadyL]

The UK Government recommendations for drivers can be found here

Secure your vehicle to help stop illegal immigration

that doesn't address the scenario we were discussing, which is if movement was detected while driving

 

[alice500]

that doesn't address the scenario we were discussing, which is if movement was detected while driving

Secure your vehicle to help stop illegal immigration


If someone hides in your vehicle
Your drivers should contact the police if they suspect that someone is hiding in a vehicle.

Before departing for the UK
Your drivers must not go through UK border control, or board transport to the UK, if they suspect there’s someone hiding in the vehicle they’re driving.

They should contact the police in the country they’re in or speak to border control at the port where they plan to board. They can also contact Border Force at the port where they plan to arrive.

After arriving in the UK
Drivers shouldn’t approach anyone hiding in a vehicle. They should stay in the cab of the vehicle and contact the local police.

The police will take the driver’s details and your company’s details, and tell Border Force about the clandestine entrants.

You and your driver may get letters from the clandestine entrant civil penalty team, which is part of Border Force, asking for information about the security system in place on that day.

Your information will be used to help decide who will be fined, and by how much. For examples of how this is decided, read the ‘Level of penalty: code of practice’.

At UK border control
Your driver may be interviewed about the security system they’re using if clandestine entrants are found in your vehicle at UK border control, at a port in the UK or anywhere in Europe.

They can refuse to be interviewed and leave at any stage, but it’s in their interest to give as much information as they can. Your company and the vehicle’s owner or hirer may also be asked for information.

Your information will be used to help decide who will be fined, and by how much. For examples of how this is decided, read the ‘Level of penalty: code of practice’.

 

[Marysmith]

French police arrest two Romanian lorry drivers
French police arrest two Romanian lorry drivers | Daily Mail Online

ETA - attempting to drive a lorry to the UK. 8 people found safe but in the early stages of hypothermia in a refrigerated lorry.

 

[goldielox]

that doesn't address the scenario we were discussing, which is if movement was detected while driving

I'd imagine the difference in weight would be the first sign ie pulling a trailer with people in would feel significantly lighter than pulling one laden with goods.

 

[Ched]

Migrants found safe in two trucks in Belgium

 

[Ched]

Informative video Belgium federal prosecutors open investigation on UK lorry deaths | WatsupAsia - Asia's Latest News & Entertainment Platform

 

[LadyL]

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if he thought he had a legitimate load and it had shifted is what we were discussing

Secure your vehicle to help stop illegal immigration


If someone hides in your vehicle
Your drivers should contact the police if they suspect that someone is hiding in a vehicle.

Before departing for the UK
Your drivers must not go through UK border control, or board transport to the UK, if they suspect there’s someone hiding in the vehicle they’re driving.

They should contact the police in the country they’re in or speak to border control at the port where they plan to board. They can also contact Border Force at the port where they plan to arrive.

After arriving in the UK
Drivers shouldn’t approach anyone hiding in a vehicle. They should stay in the cab of the vehicle and contact the local police.

The police will take the driver’s details and your company’s details, and tell Border Force about the clandestine entrants.

You and your driver may get letters from the clandestine entrant civil penalty team, which is part of Border Force, asking for information about the security system in place on that day.

Your information will be used to help decide who will be fined, and by how much. For examples of how this is decided, read the ‘Level of penalty: code of practice’.

At UK border control
Your driver may be interviewed about the security system they’re using if clandestine entrants are found in your vehicle at UK border control, at a port in the UK or anywhere in Europe.

They can refuse to be interviewed and leave at any stage, but it’s in their interest to give as much information as they can. Your company and the vehicle’s owner or hirer may also be asked for information.

Your information will be used to help decide who will be fined, and by how much. For examples of how this is decided, read the ‘Level of penalty: code of practice’.

 

[Ched]

Just a reminder now we know he was the one who delivered refrigerator trailer to Zeebrugge Irish truck driver arrested at Dublin Port appears in court today

 

[Kubirai]

I am still catching up with the thread but let me just say that I am thrilled that one of the trafficking networks to UK is coming down and all links to it and to others are being painstakingly investigated, finally.
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I have raised the issue some time ago and adding here thread I made last year. It mentions some other cases there too, also of different nationalities, all trafficked to UK to different ports and cities.

UK - UK - Lingran Lin, 11, & Lingshan Lin, 15, Hove, Sussex, 29 July 2006 (Human Trafficking)

And adding extra case which may be related to the same traffickers discussed here (due to timeframe, nationality and location)

UK - UK - 12 Vietnamese Teens, Ages 14-18, Northamptonshire, Feb 2018

Daily Mail article has a long sidebar with the Bulgarian guy who registered the Scania truck in 2017. Ivan says that he was a student in Rochester, Kent way back in 2000, when he first met Mahers.

The similar tragedy involving 59 Chinese citizens occurred in June 2000. Their trailer also came to UK from Zeebrugge port.

Varna, Bulgaria was also linked to the Aug 2015 tragedy at Nickelsdorf. 71 asylum seekers died, trapped inside a small truck on a very hot day.

Thorough investigation will probably link all of these human traffickers.

 

[Kubirai]

The Irish Times has established that during this time the trailer was leased by its owner, Global Trailer Rentals (GTR), to a Co Monaghan-based haulier.

The lease document was signed by Ronan Hughes, who gave an address matching that of the haulier, C Hughes Transport.

It is understood that Mr Hughes is related to the directors of this company. Efforts to seek comment from the Hughes haulage firm, which was wound up in 2017, were unsuccessful.

Mo Robinson parked the trailer near DTRE office in Essex.

I immediately checked their website and found a senior employee named Robinson. But so far, nothing from police or MSM about that.

 

[Silverlink]

Mo Robinson parked the trailer near DTRE office in Essex.

I immediately checked their website and found a senior employee named Robinson. But so far, nothing from police or MSM about that.

Robinson is one of the most common surnames in Britain, there's probably nothing in that.

 

[alice500]

Mo Robinson parked the trailer near DTRE office in Essex.

I immediately checked their website and found a senior employee named Robinson. But so far, nothing from police or MSM about that.

Do you have a link for that?

I have found ... GTR operators prove difficult to contact as sources say 'nothing suggests involvement'

 

[HayLouise]

27 October 2019
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tragic-vietnamese-migrant-was-kicked-20738392
A Vietnamese woman believed to have been among the 39 migrants who died in the back of a lorry is said to have reached Britain days earlier from France but was deported.

Pham Thi Tra My ’s brother has claimed the 26-year-old was picked up by police after she arrived.

He said in an interview: “She was arrested a few days ago and they returned her to France. Now we heard she might have died.”

Vietnamese migrant ‘was kicked out of Britain' before dying in Essex lorry

 

[LuluR38]

Do you have a link for that?

I have found ... GTR operators prove difficult to contact as sources say 'nothing suggests involvement'

GTR is ran by the devlin family who in themselves have previous it would seem for smuggling laundering type stuff (fuel) - there’s a family tree with online details them all, and from there if you look at the names and google them then companies become apparent and it’s clear that there’s a lot of money in their family too, (seems one son may be a senior lawyer who’s been involved in government type stuff here from a quick glance at his page) and links perhaps to murkier stuff (think racehorses / multiple companies / booze shops or companies / properties company named after the racehorse / fuel smuggling / laundering etc)...

 

[HayLouise]

Notice allegedly posted at the match yesterday between Clapton CFC and CB Hounslow United Reserves. #Essex #lorrydeaths



Nga Pham on Twitter

 

[Ched]

27 October 2019
A Vietnamese woman believed to have been among the 39 migrants who died in the back of a lorry is said to have reached Britain days earlier from France but was deported.

Pham Thi Tra My ’s brother has claimed the 26-year-old was picked up by police after she arrived.

He said in an interview: “She was arrested a few days ago and they returned her to France. Now we heard she might have died.”

Vietnamese migrant ‘was kicked out of Britain' before dying in Essex lorry[/QUOTE

do you think that’s correct ? Police just return her to France ? I didn’t think they could just send them back from where they crossed I thought they would have to hold her to find her country or origin ( that’s why they discard any passports when they get to uk so they can deny where their home country is )

 

[Cherwell]

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if he thought he had a legitimate load and it had shifted is what we were discussing

It was indeed.

I am persuaded that he knew exactly what he was doing, since we are hearing that people had arranged to meet some of the victims at the drop-off.

I was really just musing on whether he could have come up with a credible cover story, but it's gone beyond that now.

 

[HayLouise]

27 October 2019


Essex lorry deaths: Police issue statement over man arrested at Dublin Port

A man arrested at Dublin Port on Saturday is a "person of interest" in connection with the deaths of 39 migrants, police confirmed in a statement released on Sunday night.

A spokesperson for Essex Police said: "Essex Police can confirm that a man arrested by the Garda at Dublin Port on Saturday 26 October is a person of interest in our murder investigation regarding the 39 people found dead in a lorry in Purfleet on Wednesday 23 October.

"His arrest was for an unconnected matter. We are liaising with the Garda via telephone as this man is currently held outside the jurisdiction of the law of England and Wales."

Essex police issue statement over man arrested at Dublin Port

 

[alice500]

Migrants found safe in two trucks in Belgium

One is tempted to ask ... is this good news or bad news? Even if it risks upsetting some people.

Will the migrants on board thank their lucky stars they have been found?

I am not sure this has anything directly to do with this particular thread ... Not sure how this forum works .. but I think each disappearance (for example) is treated as a separate thread, unless they can be shown to be linked?

 

[HayLouise]

27 October 2019

Family of woman feared among Essex lorry victims 'begged her not to go'