UK - 39 bodies found in lorry, Essex, 23 October 2019

[Kubirai]

Do you have a link for that?

I have found ... GTR operators prove difficult to contact as sources say 'nothing suggests involvement'

Chillbox, DTRE, GTR all appeared in this early article, which focused too much on Chinese "snakehead" gangs and Fujian province. I quickly googled DTRE.

Essex lorry victims' horror journey at hands of deadly Snakehead gang

 

[Ched]

They have lost £1.2 million in earnings in this problem. So they will go again, this time different route and different drivers.

From above

 

[Kubirai]

Pham Thi Tra My family confirmed that she paid the highest amount, for what the traffickers called a VIP Ticket, so it is very likely that she flew to UK on a fake passport.

Since she kept her family informed, even when suffocating, we can trust the family's account.

Only UK authorities can confirm where she flew from, and where she was sent back.

 

[Mrs Marple]

Pham Thi Tra My family confirmed that she paid the highest amount, for what the traffickers called a VIP Ticket, so it is very likely that she flew to UK on a fake passport.

Since she kept her family informed, even when suffocating, we can trust the family's account.

Only UK authorities can confirm where she flew from, and where she was sent back.

Happy to be corrected but there is no evidence that she flew into the UK on her earlier attempt.

 

[Mommysleuth11]

CLEMENTINE, Ro-Ro Cargo Ship - Details and current position - IMO 9125384 MMSI 205451000 - VesselFinder

Ship info.

 

[Mommysleuth11]

CLEMENTINE, Ro-Ro Cargo Ship - Details and current position - IMO 9125384 MMSI 205451000 - VesselFinder

Ship info.

As reported in this article.
The conditions the 39 victims suffered inside the Essex lorry

 

[alice500]

I was just thinking how the reefer arrived so close to the cut off time for loading on the ferry. Last on, first off? I wonder how that one loads, unloads?

Also, considering inside people on either the ferries or boat docks. Bribing to turn their heads or on a payroll?

Musing. JMO.

Maybe ... but there again .. no-one wants to arrive hours early ... even in a car.

Not sure how much bribing / turning heads required ... if it looks like legit load, paperwork OK... empty trailer on way home?

Still worried about the "seals"

 

[alice500]

Just a quick reminder for our new members, we cannot sleuth people that have not been named officially as suspects or arrested by LE. It's against the TOS of Websleuth.

But anyway Welcome to all new members and thank you for joining!

LE? sorry .. not familiar

 

[Silverlink]

LE? sorry .. not familiar

My guess is 'Law Enforcement'.

 

[Kubirai]

LE? sorry .. not familiar

Law Enforcement. I removed the name of a DTRE employee, because Websleuths (WS) rules don't allow naming someone not mentioned by LE.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

It is now thought that as many as 25 of the 39 victims are from the same Vietnamese village

Faces of the migrants killed in death truck tragedy emerge | Daily Mail Online

 

[Mommysleuth11]

As reported in this article.
The conditions the 39 victims suffered inside the Essex lorry

Although going back over those links that ship currently appears to be sailing between Esjberg, Denmark and Zeebrugge. Im sure ferries generally tend to sail back and forth between the same 2 points, or at least all the ferries local to me do, please correct me someone if i am mistaken. Im therefore not entirely convinced Belfast live have named the correct ship. MOO

 

[dotr]

https://www.cp24.com/world/vietnam-takes-forensic-samples-to-help-in-truck-deaths-case-1.4657810

A woman wearing a white head band, traditionally worn by relatives of a deceased person during the funeral in Vietnam to show sign of mourning, attends a Sunday Mass at Phu Tang church in Yen Thanh district, Nghe An province, Vietnam Sunday, Oct. 27, 2019. (AP Photo/Linh Do)
"YEN THANH, Vietnam - Police in central Vietnam said Sunday that they have taken forensic samples from residents who believe their family members may be among the 39 victims found dead last week in the back of a truck in England.

Police in Nghe An province took samples including hair and nails from the family members to try to help identify the victims, the VNExpress news website reported.

Up to 24 Vietnamese families had reported their missing family members to local authorities as of Sunday afternoon, the website said"

"In Do Thanh, another village in the district, people attended a Sunday Mass to pray for the missing family members. Three families in Do Thanh have reported to local authorities that their missing family members could be among the victims.

During the Mass, the priest, the Rev. Nguyen Duc Vinh, encouraged people to keep up their hopes until officials confirm the identities of the victims."

 

[alice500]

<modsnip>

The vehicles are the key

They are large, distinctive, difficult to hide, ought to show up on camera everywhere.

They will never be named as suspects or arrested.

So where does the group stand?

Can it debate / discuss the whereabouts and status of the trailer DTR128D with impunity?

And any tractor units with which it was in contact... between the dates 16th October - 22nd

And perhaps the whereabouts and status of any tractor units believed to have been in contact with DTR128D during the period of interest.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Although going back over those links that ship currently appears to be sailing between Esjberg, Denmark and Zeebrugge. Im sure ferries generally tend to sail back and forth between the same 2 points, or at least all the ferries local to me do, please correct me someone if i am mistaken. Im therefore not entirely convinced Belfast live have named the correct ship. MOO

Do you have another one you think it might be?

 

[Ched]

Mos IG still public

 

[Elainera]

Police in Nghe An province took samples including hair and nails from the family members to try to help identify the victims, the VNExpress news website reported.

bbm

Hair, ok you can get a dna profile from hair roots but I have never heard nails being taken for dna reference. Don't they usually take a mouth swab?

 

[alice500]

Chillbox, DTRE, GTR all appeared in this early article, which focused too much on Chinese "snakehead" gangs and Fujian province. I quickly googled DTRE.

Essex lorry victims' horror journey at hands of deadly Snakehead gang

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Thank you ... I had a feeling I had seen the image before ... do we think Chillbox are at all related?

 

[CSIDreamer]

bbm

Hair, ok you can get a dna profile from hair roots but I have never heard nails being taken for dna reference. Don't they usually take a mouth swab?

Easy to collect and store actually.

 

[goldielox]

bbm

Hair, ok you can get a dna profile from hair roots but I have never heard nails being taken for dna reference. Don't they usually take a mouth swab?

Forensic DNA typing of human nails at various stages of decomposition - ScienceDirect