UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #2

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You take two deep breaths of whatever you’re smoking, then pass it on. You can’t breath out until the joint gets back to you.

Usually done with a circle of people, not sure why you’d play it with just 2.

Bet me to it. Played this loads of times in my youth. Strange to play it with 2.
 
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I'm not buying the joggers story, but my gut feeling is he's telling the truth re TM meeting. That in itself would explain the sense of their being something else to the story throughout this whole thing.
 
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14:46

KEY EVENT

"Friends with benefits"

The boy has said he became “friends with benefits” with Alesha’s dad’s girlfriend towards the end of 2017.

He said he would meet up with Toni McLachlan “once or twice a week”.

The boy says he didn’t believe Robert MacPhail knew about it.

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Toni Louise McLachlan arrives at Glasgow High Court (Image: Getty Images)

Boy accused of raping and murdering Alesha MacPhail takes stand
 
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When was he meant to have had sex with TM in order for her to keep the condom? He was holding a party on night Alesha went missing so it obviously wasn’t then? The night before he was supposedly camping? Just when was this alleged event meant to have happened in order for her to keep his semen and evidence??
His defence is it happened that morning when he was seen leaving his house on cctv. He says he gave Toni his hoodie probably to explain going out in it but not seen coming home in it.

That's why it is so unbelievable because the person on the shoreline cctv was half hour after he went out, so he's supposed to have met Toni and then afterwards she's taken the condom and taken Alesha all the way down to that part of the shoreline, in half an hour.
 
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When was he meant to have had sex with TM in order for her to keep the condom? He was holding a party on night Alesha went missing so it obviously wasn’t then? The night before he was supposedly camping? Just when was this alleged event meant to have happened in order for her to keep his semen and evidence??

He has yet to tell us ! but from earlier statements, it was meant to be the night Alesha was abducted.
So essentially between 2am and 2.18am
 
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Do you think RM might believe the affair?

I think if he believed it to any degree he wouldn’t still be with TM. If there was any doubt in his mind of who killed his daughter I really don’t think he would stay with that person. I think he is just furious/upset and needs to leave to calm himself down.
 
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Just to note, instagram comments would be public, so RM could possibly see these... With the exception of private profiles, or RM not using instagram.

Comments also show up in the “Following” feed, so anybody following either of them could possibly have seen that they’d left a new comment. If this were real, which I don’t believe it is.

I think he’s tried to come up with some clever way of contacting each other which would avoid the need for sending messages, but hasn’t realised that it wouldn’t be particularly secure
 
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Connor Gillies‏Verified account @ConnorGillies

Boy says he and Toni had sex with a condom she produced. He then “chucked” the used condom on the ground before the pair spoke for “a while” and then “went on their ways” He says he gave Toni the hooded top because “she was cold”. Boy says he had a shower as soon as he got home

bbm
 
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When was he meant to have had sex with TM in order for her to keep the condom? He was holding a party on night Alesha went missing so it obviously wasn’t then? The night before he was supposedly camping? Just when was this alleged event meant to have happened in order for her to keep his semen and evidence??

He’s claiming the night Alesha dissapeared he had sex with TM and she brought a condom, collected his semen and planted it on Alesha after she killed her yet there’s no DNA, CCTV of TM anywhere.
 
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I'm not buying the joggers story, but my gut feeling is he's telling the truth re TM meeting. That in itself would explain the sense of their being something else to the story throughout this whole thing.

My thinking as well. Lots more to this story.
 
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Fraser Knight‏ @Fraser_Knight

Accused tells court he met Toni to smoke with her, before the pair went down to the shore to have sex together. He says he gave his black hooded Nike top to Toni because she said she was cold.

bbm
 
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Bet me to it. Played this loads of times in my youth. Strange to play it with 2.

If he’s as twisted as I think he is, I reckon he might just have claimed they were playing that particular game because it has “killer”’in the name.
 
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Connor Gillies‏Verified account @ConnorGillies

Boy says he and Toni had sex with a condom she produced. He then “chucked” the used condom on the ground before the pair spoke for “a while” and then “went on their ways” He says he gave Toni the hooded top because “she was cold”. Boy says he had a shower as soon as he got home

bbm

Ah, so his story is the sex was between 2am and 3.35 am..
 
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So he called her, she then commented on a photo on Instagram telling him to meet her ( which is unheard of ). The next morning she messages him asking why he called to which he replies ‘ it was nothing’. Unless they were both in it together it makes no sense at all.
 
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Prosecution barrister will eat this boy alive!
 
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Connor Gillies‏Verified account @ConnorGillies

Accused says he realised he’d lost his phone when he got back to the house so went back out to “retrace his steps”. He says he checked the area where he’d “had sex with Toni”.
 
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Connor Gillies‏Verified account @ConnorGillies

Boy says he and Toni had sex with a condom she produced. He then “chucked” the used condom on the ground before the pair spoke for “a while” and then “went on their ways” He says he gave Toni the hooded top because “she was cold”. Boy says he had a shower as soon as he got home

bbm

Went on his merry way jumping fences and having showers with the lights off oh and leaving with a torch. I smell bull....
 
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Surely RM will know if T0ni went out or not that night?
 
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