UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #3

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  • #161
So weird how every different article you find out that extra bit of information that wasn’t reported in the last. I’m still finding out new things that was said in court today and what his response was.
 
  • #162
The lawyers gets paid handsomely regardless of his clients claims I’m pretty sure she’d have a good case of defamation if he’s found guilty
I think you may be incorrect. As it is part of his defence and it was said in court, i think that protects him from any claim of defamation
 
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But then incriminate TM in his special defence. Doesnt make much sense?

I agree with you (as always it seems!) I don't think there is any sort of reason behind why he did it, I don't think it's as complicated as any past affairs etc. I genuinely believe he just did it, not for any reason beyond that he wanted to...
 
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The teenager remained calm and articulate even under intense questioning as he gave evidence for more than two hours, and on two occasions refused breaks offered to him by the judge, Lord Williams.


It’s chilling
 
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I actually feel sad for aleshas family but more so the mother especially if she did not know her daughter was staying with drug dealing and domestic abuse accussations going on then to lose her beloved daugher away from home in such tragic, evil circumstances


I’m sure Alesha mum knew what was what she let her go often and it appears they dote on her. Dad saw her every other weekend and she stayed for weeks during holidays. So not such a dead beat dad. Not condoning drug deAling but half the world smokes cannabis (slight exaggeration on my behalf but you know what I mean ) I’m not sure a lot of people get phased by it tbh It does look as if they loved and cared for alesha but like us all, not a prefect family
 
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I agree with you (as always it seems!) I don't think there is any sort of reason behind why he did it, I don't think it's as complicated as any past affairs etc. I genuinely believe he just did it, not for any reason beyond that he wanted to...

Glad someone does lol
 
  • #168
Can I ask a question? It is in relation to the jogging bottoms. We know that the accused returned home and had a shower. his mother gave evidence that he left his stuff laying around. I took this to mean that he left the clothes that he returned home in on the bathroom floor. If this was the case, how did they get to be on the shoreline?
 
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The teenager remained calm and articulate even under intense questioning as he gave evidence for more than two hours, and on two occasions refused breaks offered to him by the judge, Lord Williams.


It’s chilling

Wow....no no I don’t need a break I bench 50kg it’s not so impressive. Grrrrrrrr

2 hours...we only got like 10 maybe 20 quotes from twitter. I want to see the whole transcript one day. How do we apply for such a thing?
 
  • #170
IF any of his daft tale was true wouldn't he have freaked out at being arrested and told the police exactly where he was that night? Or once he was charged and cooling his heels in jail, wouldn't he have been beating on the police's door, telling them every last detail of the supposed tryst with TM? Doing everything he could to get them to keep investigating, realising it was his best chance of them seeing the 'mistake' and letting him out? But no, he saves it all for trial, once he's seen the evidence against him and had a chance to create a story.

I agree with the US poster (sorry, I just caught up on 20-odd pages so your name escapes me just now) who said it looks like he's used to getting away with stuff by always having a nearly-plausible excuse and simply wearing down the complainer. I also think he chose to testify because he feels like that's what an innocent person would do.

I'm sorry it took something as heinous as this but I'm glad he's been picked up so young. I've no doubt he's a very disturbed - and disturbing - individual.
 
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Can I ask a question? It is in relation to the jogging bottoms. We know that the accused returned home and had a shower. his mother gave evidence that he left his stuff laying around. I took this to mean that he left the clothes that he returned home in on the bathroom floor. If this was the case, how did they get to be on the shoreline?

Most likely towels / a towel from the shower...
 
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Can I ask a question? It is in relation to the jogging bottoms. We know that the accused returned home and had a shower. his mother gave evidence that he left his stuff laying around. I took this to mean that he left the clothes that he returned home in on the bathroom floor. If this was the case, how did they get to be on the shoreline?
apologies for quoting my own post. Were the joggers found at the shoreline, the same joggers that the fibres were from and found on Alesha's vest?
 
  • #175
Towels weren’t on the shoreline.
No, the joggers. How did they get to the shoreline. he was wearing them when he came home and showered.
 
  • #176
I think you may be incorrect. As it is part of his defence and it was said in court, i think that protects him from any claim of defamation


But it’s been plastered all over the media so it’s public because of the media. your correct I might be wrong, but the Media didn’t have to run with she only needs to prove it affected her life
 
  • #177
OK, but how did they get to the shoreline?

Sorry it’s really late. I don’t know for actual sure what items she was meaning but I only assume towels and these were left at his backside in his house not at the beach. His clothes however were found on the shore because I can only assume the accused put them there hoping the sea would carry them out...to sea. No such luck tho thankfully.
 
  • #178
No, the joggers. How did they get to the shoreline. he was wearing them when he came home and showered.

The prosecution thinks he took them when he went back out the second time and dumped them there. The accused states he lost them diving off the pier in the days before the murder.
 
  • #179
No, the joggers. How did they get to the shoreline. he was wearing them when he came home and showered.

He went out twice after the shower. Assume to dump clothes etc.
 
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