UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #3

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  • #501
Have to say I don't see why he is making that point. Completely makes sense to me, if Alesha is missing and you have a missed call, from anyone, you are going to call back in case they have news about her.
Yes but he replied saying “ doesn’t matter “ as in it looks like Toni was responding to the missed call on her phone
 
  • #502
Have to say I don't see why he is making that point. Completely makes sense to me, if Alesha is missing and you have a missed call, from anyone, you are going to call back in case they have news about her.
The missed call came before he alleges they met up, didn’t it?
 
  • #503
Not sure how that helps the defence case. Is someone who’s supposedly obsessed and prone to jealousy over their boyfriend, really likely to be having an affair with a schoolboy?

But did they ask anybody about this ? I don’t recall any direct questioning of any of their friends around this topic, which is a bit odd , but maybe it just wasn’t reported
 
  • #504
Have to say I don't see why he is making that point. Completely makes sense to me, if Alesha is missing and you have a missed call, from anyone, you are going to call back in case they have news about her.
His point is if what the accused said was true and they'd seen each other that night after the phone call then why would she phone him back the next day to see what he wanted.
 
  • #505
Lorna Gordon‏Verified account @bbclornag

Crown QC said for the jury to decide whether accused's story a pack of lies. Also whether the messages on social media might just have been evidence of dark humour.
 
  • #506
Fraser Knight‏ @Fraser_Knight

Advocate Depute reminds jury the accused said Toni Mclachlan may have been fantasising about killing Alesha for months. “Nowhere else was it suggested anyone had been fantasising about killing anyone. He introduced that. Who’s been fantasising?”
 
  • #507
Heart Scotland News‏ @HeartScotNews

He says yesterday accused told jury he would never kill anyone “because it would ruin my life” Advocate Depute says he could think of lots of reasons not to kill someone. Very far down the list would be how it affected me.”
 
  • #508
I totally disagree. This is usually only said when someone has been ill and suffering not about a 6 year old child
I already said this upthread. I think compared to the suffering and terror that wee girl went through just prior to her death she's definitely in a better place now. Further to that i believe when someone is bereaved, i imagine that TM was to some extent, it's hard to say any words, she possibly didn't know what else to say. But thats my opinion and that's why we are all on this forum.
 
  • #509
Fraser Knight‏ @Fraser_Knight

He says yesterday accused told jury he would never kill anyone “because it would ruin my life” Advocate Depute says he could think of lots of reasons not to kill someone. Very far down the list would be how it affected me.”
 
  • #510
Heart Scotland News‏ @HeartScotNews

He says yesterday accused told jury he would never kill anyone “because it would ruin my life” Advocate Depute says he could think of lots of reasons not to kill someone. Very far down the list would be how it affected me.”
I dunno, teens can be quite self absorbed.
 
  • #511
Have to say I don't see why he is making that point. Completely makes sense to me, if Alesha is missing and you have a missed call, from anyone, you are going to call back in case they have news about her.
Yes but she has allegedly seen the missed call, messaged him on Instagram and then went and met him. She would know why he called her. She didn’t so she called him back.
 
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The missed call came before he alleges they met up, didn’t it?

Yes it was at 1.47am ( after he had called RM at 1.39am ) and he then went out of his house at 1.54am - allegedly to meet TM
 
  • #514
Guys sorry I'm not feeling that great at the minute so heading home from work if anyone else wants to continue with twitter updates
 
  • #515
His point is if what the accused said was true and they'd seen each other that night after the phone call then why would she phone him back the next day to see what he wanted.

I get you, but maybe she didnt initially notice the time of the call, and called him back, in a panic, thinking he had just called her and had news re Alesha. I see your point though and does make it more relevant for the Prosecution to include it.
 
  • #516
Guys sorry I'm not feeling that great at the minute so heading home from work if anyone else wants to continue with twitter updates
Hope you feel better soon <3
 
  • #517
Radio Clyde News‏Verified account @RadioClydeNews

He says the accused told the police a "pack of lies" in the days after Alesha's body was found & stood in the witness box yesterday telling the same "pack of lies".

Really? First I've heard that he told the police this story in the days after Alesha body was found? I thought the start of the trial was the first anyone heard of his version of events ?
 
  • #518
Really? First I've heard that he told the police this story in the days after Alesha body was found? I thought the start of the trial was the first anyone heard of his version of events ?
Maybe he's referring to the first story he told them regarding going out and buying cannabis?
 
  • #519
I get you, but maybe she didnt initially notice the time of the call, and called him back, in a panic, thinking he had just called her and had news re Alesha. I see your point though and does make it more relevant for the Prosecution to include it.
But the accused did say “doesn’t matter” with crying laughing emojis. He seemed to know TonI was returning his missed call... if he didn’t reply with doesn’t matter I think it would of benefited his defence more
 
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