UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #5

[Ciana]

Wow. Now the local stories start to emerge. Not sure it's accurate about knowing him from two tho

Yep, with you re the age of the lady in question knowing him from. I was under the impression that the C's moved to the island when he was 5? Unless she met them when they were on a visit to the maternal gran? That is, if the family did visit at that time.

 

[Taskforce88]

It's another moot point but did he drop the knife? Or something else?

 

[Ciana]

Lost interest when she said that he looked like Damien from Omen at two years old.

And then they inserted a pic of Damien.....I thought at first that it was the prisoner as a very small laddie at a funeral.

 

[mrazda71]

Saves on stamps. I personally wouldn’t have wished him anything, maybe her stance is different now he has been convicted.

She grew him for 9 months, birthed him, bathed him, kissed and tickled him, held his hand, taught him to tie his laces and write his name ... he's still her son no matter what he's done.

There will be times that she hates him and would kill him herself and other times, she'll catch a glimpse of her boy and feel love and a need to protect him ... before remembering again exactly what he's done and once again despising him.

It's easy for us to hate him. He's not our child.

 

[Taskforce88]

Yep, with you re the age of the lady in question knowing him from. I was under the impression that the C's moved to the island when he was 5? Unless he met them when they were on a visit to the maternal gran? That is, if the family did visit at that time.

It's possible they were visiting

 

[iamnotanumber]

She grew him for 9 months, birthed him, bathed him, kissed and tickled him, held his hand, taught him to tie his laces and write his name ... he's still her son no matter what he's done.

There will be times that she hates him and would kill him herself and other times, she'll catch a glimpse of her boy and feel love and a need to protect him ... before remembering again exactly what he's done and once again despising him.

It's easy for us to hate him. He's not our child.

Eloquently and sensitively put.

 

[Ardoch]

It's another moot point but did he drop the knife? Or something else?

Drop it or throw it away?

 

[mrazda71]

If a loved one of mine committed a terrible, dreadful crime, I honestly don't know what I would feel. I would hate the fact that they were capable of such a thing, for sure, but I don't know, if I were the parent, if I could turn my back on my child. I would hate what they had done, would I hate them? I truly don't have an answer to that one, thank God. My entire sympathies lie with Georgina and to a lesser extent, the father, Rab.

Why would you feel less empathy for Rab?
He in NO way, by any action, invited Aaron to abduct, rape and kill his child.

I think I feel more empathy for him than her mum if anything. He will carry the added burden of it happening while she was in his care.

 

[Ardoch]

And then they inserted a pic of Damien.....I thought at first that it was the prisoner as a very small laddie at a funeral.

Yes that too!

 

[HongKongPhooey]

To be fair, i think he's just got a different opinion to the majority, which is of course allowed on here.

Yes it is. Baiting isn't, of course but that would be a different kind of thing.

 

[Ciana]

To be fair, i think he's just got a different opinion to the majority, which is of course allowed on here.

Websleuths would be a very poor sleuthing site if we all had the same opinion, so iamnot is right when he or she states that we are allowed to differ.

 

[bronzepurple]

Oh i see. So he skins 2 cats, realises the buzz isn't strong enough so decides to upload trampolining videoes to youtube in order to chase that high?

Yes. Just like he *allegedly* tried to hold a girls head underwater until she almost drowned to see how it would feel. He only did that once too.

I'm so glad you agree Eezer Goode.

 

[Eezer Goode]

I'm still shocked at Lynsey Calderwood and what she said about her 'friend' on the stand.

Me too. Very brave to go against the grain in such a high profile case especially when you live on a small island. Likewise, the neighbours that spoke out about the misdirection of the court by RM and TM regarding their whereabouts and activities on that night. Hopefully both sets of witnesses will not receive any sort of backlash.

 

[Eezer Goode]

Yes. Just like he *allegedly* tried to hold a girls head underwater until she almost drowned to see how it would feel. He only did that once too.

I'm so glad you agree Eezer Goode.

Once i get round to reading that story i'll get back to you.

 

[Gardenista]

Me too. Very brave to go against the grain in such a high profile case especially when you live on a small island. Likewise, the neighbours that spoke out about the misdirection of the court by RM and TM regarding their whereabouts and activities on that night. Hopefully both sets of witnesses will not receive any sort of backlash.

If you hope that, then why are you "backlashing"?

 

[Ciana]

She grew him for 9 months, birthed him, bathed him, kissed and tickled him, held his hand, taught him to tie his laces and write his name ... he's still her son no matter what he's done.

There will be times that she hates him and would kill him herself and other times, she'll catch a glimpse of her boy and feel love and a need to protect him ... before remembering again exactly what he's done and once again despising him.

It's easy for us to hate him. He's not our child.

mrazda, your post has touched a place in my heart and what you have written is very true. May none of us on here or our loved ones ever have to be in that position or worse, Georgina's.

 

[Eezer Goode]

If I may be lazy and refer back to something that's probably in a past post - the discarded jogging pants on the beach - was it discussed as to when he possibly got rid of them?
The mother's CCTV doesn't look as if he went down to the shore.

Yes it was a couple of days before the murder iirc when he was diving in to the sea. I believe the courts were ordered to basically take that story as read.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Websleuths would be a very poor sleuthing site if we all had the same opinion, so iamnot is right when he or she states that we are allowed to differ.

I agree with you. I looked up the definition of "baiting" just out of interest. It said to deliberately annoy, as one definition.

 

[iamnotanumber]

Yes it is. Baiting isn't, of course but that would be a different kind of thing.

I hate to say it but i do feel that the 'baiting' thing tends to get thrown in as a buzz word more often than not when someone gives an alternative opinion on the way this case has gone. It'd be like dropping 'baying' every time someone says 'he got what he deserved' etc, but interestingly folks don't generally do that.

 

[Eezer Goode]

If you hope that, then why are you "backlashing"?

By 'both sets of witnesses' i meant the neighbours and the girlfriend. Sorry, the girlfriend wasn't a witness but seems to be going against the grain post trial (which is interesting in of itself as you would think she knows him reasonably well).