I have a vague recollection that when the case was first in the news we (or I) put up the tide times and I feel almost sure that the tide was in during the early hours of the morning. Maybe he tossed his clothes in the water thinking the tide would take them out but they sunk and remained on the beach when the tide receded.
UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -teen arrested
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Terribly sad case this
Yet another where the general public are given just enough information to spark curiousity but not enough to form a properly informed opinion.
Lots of things here that make far more sense if known....and that make the whole thing look mysterious when not known.
With some of the recent coverage of cases in the media, i am beginning to form the conclusion that perhaps it is time to re-examine the way reporting is done on criminal matters because the current system will sooner or later cause either a trial to collapse or a public lynching....and i am just not sure that any of it is really helping anyone.
Yet another where the general public are given just enough information to spark curiousity but not enough to form a properly informed opinion.
Lots of things here that make far more sense if known....and that make the whole thing look mysterious when not known.
With some of the recent coverage of cases in the media, i am beginning to form the conclusion that perhaps it is time to re-examine the way reporting is done on criminal matters because the current system will sooner or later cause either a trial to collapse or a public lynching....and i am just not sure that any of it is really helping anyone.
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PC Gavin McKellar tells court the accused voluntarily spoke to officers around 1am on 3rd July after a woman phoned police expressing concern at CCTV she wanted police to view. PC says he acted “confident” and was “very cooperative”
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PC Gavin McKellar tells court the accused voluntarily spoke to officers around 1am on 3rd July after a woman phoned police expressing concern at CCTV she wanted police to view. PC says he acted “confident” and was “very cooperative”
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Ms McLachlan denies saying Alesha's death was 'for the best'
Ms McLachlan denied being jealous of Alesha due to the time and attention she got from Mr Robert MacPhail and denied saying the child’s death was “for the best”.
Ms McLachlan told the court she ‘had a bad feeling’ when the accused had phoned on the morning of Alesha’s disappearance, and told a friend of her concerns.
Under cross-examination by defence brief Brian McConnachie, Ms McLachlan said she received messages all morning from people claiming the accused was responsible.
Ms McLachlan said: “Yes, I did but I didn’t think anything after he said he didn’t think she would have gone far.”
She agreed that she told a friend, Lindsay Calderwood, ‘I’ve got a bad feeling’.
Ms McLachlan denied saying Alesha's death was 'for the best' (Image: Daily Record)
Alesha MacPhail's dad's girlfriend denies planting accused's semen
Ms McLachlan denies saying Alesha's death was 'for the best'
Ms McLachlan denied being jealous of Alesha due to the time and attention she got from Mr Robert MacPhail and denied saying the child’s death was “for the best”.
Ms McLachlan told the court she ‘had a bad feeling’ when the accused had phoned on the morning of Alesha’s disappearance, and told a friend of her concerns.
Under cross-examination by defence brief Brian McConnachie, Ms McLachlan said she received messages all morning from people claiming the accused was responsible.
Ms McLachlan said: “Yes, I did but I didn’t think anything after he said he didn’t think she would have gone far.”
She agreed that she told a friend, Lindsay Calderwood, ‘I’ve got a bad feeling’.
Ms McLachlan denied saying Alesha's death was 'for the best' (Image: Daily Record)
Alesha MacPhail's dad's girlfriend denies planting accused's semen
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You did - I am just scrolling through the thread, trying to find any maps/pics we posted and I noticed that post by you re the tide.
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Det Constable giving evidence at trial of 16 year-old boy accused of murdering Alesha MacPhail. Tells court he went to accused’s house after accused’s Mum phoned Rothesay police station in early hours of morning after Alesha found
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Det Constable giving evidence at trial of 16 year-old boy accused of murdering Alesha MacPhail. Tells court he went to accused’s house after accused’s Mum phoned Rothesay police station in early hours of morning after Alesha found
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Connor GilliesVerified account @ConnorGillies
The accused’s police statement being read out. He said he left his house to go and get drugs in the middle of night. He describes his route home in detail. His statement says he had taken a shower when arriving home. He says he realised he’d lost his phone so went back out.
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The accused’s police statement being read out. He said he left his house to go and get drugs in the middle of night. He describes his route home in detail. His statement says he had taken a shower when arriving home. He says he realised he’d lost his phone so went back out.
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James MatthewsVerified account @jamesmatthewsky
Det Constable tells court accused’s mother showed him footage from the cctv system in operation at her house. As a result, he spoke to her son
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Det Constable tells court accused’s mother showed him footage from the cctv system in operation at her house. As a result, he spoke to her son
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Det constable tells court the accused presented himself as confident, cooperative - asked his mother to leave the room
Det constable tells court the accused presented himself as confident, cooperative - asked his mother to leave the room
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The initial police statement from the accused is being read to the court. In it he says he left his house to buy cannabis from a man the night Alesha was killed, before smoking it while he walked home.
The initial police statement from the accused is being read to the court. In it he says he left his house to buy cannabis from a man the night Alesha was killed, before smoking it while he walked home.
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Det constable tells court the accused gave statement. Said he had gone out in early hours to buy cannabis and smoked on the way back home. When he got home he took a shower - said he was “really stoned. I take a shower when I am really stoned”
Det constable tells court the accused gave statement. Said he had gone out in early hours to buy cannabis and smoked on the way back home. When he got home he took a shower - said he was “really stoned. I take a shower when I am really stoned”
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Accused spoke to police after his mother called them expressing concern about CCTV
PC Gavin McKellar told the court the accused voluntarily spoke to officers around 1am on 3rd July after his mother phoned police expressing concern at CCTV she wanted police to view.
PC McKellar says he acted “confident” and was “very cooperative”. He asked his mother to leave the room.
The accused’s statement was read to the court in which he said he had gone out in early hours to buy cannabis and smoked on the way back home.
When he got home he took a shower - said he was “really stoned. I take a shower when I am really stoned”.
There was no mention of meeting Ms Toni-Louise McLachlan in his statement.
First policeman at scene cries describing Alesha MacPhail's 'bruised' body
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Accused spoke to police after his mother called them expressing concern about CCTV
PC Gavin McKellar told the court the accused voluntarily spoke to officers around 1am on 3rd July after his mother phoned police expressing concern at CCTV she wanted police to view.
PC McKellar says he acted “confident” and was “very cooperative”. He asked his mother to leave the room.
The accused’s statement was read to the court in which he said he had gone out in early hours to buy cannabis and smoked on the way back home.
When he got home he took a shower - said he was “really stoned. I take a shower when I am really stoned”.
There was no mention of meeting Ms Toni-Louise McLachlan in his statement.
First policeman at scene cries describing Alesha MacPhail's 'bruised' body
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This seems reasonable.
I think the accused called TM and TM called him back? - whether they actually spoke or not when she called back, I’m unclear.
I think there is a gap on how she would connect the two. There must be something about his past or character that her mind instantly went to him being involved in some way. As if you knew he was only contacting for weed then I’m not sure my mind would jump to involvement? JMO.
Also, we aren’t seeing in the transcript ( I don’t think anyway) if she first said ‘why did you call?’, all I’ve seen is a message from her saying to look out for Rab’s wee girl.
Yeah this is all we got:
Transcript:
Accused: “Sorry doesn’t matter” following by two crying laughing emojis.
Toni replied: “Want to keep and eye out for Rab’s wee girl x”
Accused: “Yh how what’s happened?”
Toni: “She’s went missing...the police helicopter is out x”
Accused: “Am sure she’s not gone too far x”
Toni: “Hopefully x”.
First policeman at scene cries describing Alesha MacPhail's 'bruised' body
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This is chilling. Possible psychopath to be so cool after a crime so heinous?
I feel for his Mum. To have to contact the police on her own son.
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I suspected the accused and the women were seeing each other. It may not be the case but it's possible.
Ms Toni-Louise McLachlan has denied having sex with the accused on the night Alesha went missing, keeping the condom, then abducting and murdering Alesha before planting the accused’s semen.
She also denied telling a friend “it’s for the best” when Alesha was found dead.
During cross examination by Brian McConnachie QC for the accused, she also denied playing ‘smoking games’ with the accused and having sex with him in a bus shelter in 2017.
She continuously denied meeting the accused for sex in the middle of the night that Alesha went missing.
Toni also denied taking the used condom of the accused, taking Alesha from her room to the woods before attacking the six-year-old and “planting” the accused’s semen as evidence.
First policeman at scene cries describing Alesha MacPhail's 'bruised' body
Ms Toni-Louise McLachlan has denied having sex with the accused on the night Alesha went missing, keeping the condom, then abducting and murdering Alesha before planting the accused’s semen.
She also denied telling a friend “it’s for the best” when Alesha was found dead.
During cross examination by Brian McConnachie QC for the accused, she also denied playing ‘smoking games’ with the accused and having sex with him in a bus shelter in 2017.
She continuously denied meeting the accused for sex in the middle of the night that Alesha went missing.
Toni also denied taking the used condom of the accused, taking Alesha from her room to the woods before attacking the six-year-old and “planting” the accused’s semen as evidence.
First policeman at scene cries describing Alesha MacPhail's 'bruised' body
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The question: "would you agree Alesha would scream if a stranger entered her room" was cleverly done. The partner answered "yes".
Safe to say whoever took her was known to her? So was the accused well known to Alesha or are we looking at something else? Of course, she could easily have gone quietly but I suspect this sinister case is about to get a lot worse.
Safe to say whoever took her was known to her? So was the accused well known to Alesha or are we looking at something else? Of course, she could easily have gone quietly but I suspect this sinister case is about to get a lot worse.
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Yep I agree there was a connection. Not sure if seeing each other but something. Possibly even just infatuation with her on his part?
Does anyone know what ‘smoking games’ are? Not that it’s entirely relevant. Just curious.
Still can’t believe the defence is going with that condom scenario. I’m starting to think Brian Mc has lost his mind. Either that or he knows the accused is getting convicted either way and is just trying to plant seeds of doubt for a lesser charge/sentence.
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I am assuming 'smoking games' is something you do while high. Dares, sex etc
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The series of events was put to her by defence, Brian McConnachie, who said she had “brutalised” the little girl using an “implement.”
The brief claimed that Ms McLachlan met the accused in secret the night before Alesha disappeared, and confided in the teen about alleged abuse from Mr MacPhail.
He said the pair had walked into a shed where they used a condom provided by Ms McLachlan, and the accused gave her a hoodie because she was cold.
The accused said that was the last time he had seen Ms McLachlan before Alesha was killed, the court heard.
First policeman at scene cries describing Alesha MacPhail's 'bruised' body
The brief claimed that Ms McLachlan met the accused in secret the night before Alesha disappeared, and confided in the teen about alleged abuse from Mr MacPhail.
He said the pair had walked into a shed where they used a condom provided by Ms McLachlan, and the accused gave her a hoodie because she was cold.
The accused said that was the last time he had seen Ms McLachlan before Alesha was killed, the court heard.
First policeman at scene cries describing Alesha MacPhail's 'bruised' body
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