UK UK - Andrew Gosden, 14, Doncaster, South Yorks, 14 Sep 2007 #2

[ChatteringBirds]

I think this is an updated LE page for Andrew, with a link for providing concrete information:

Public Portal

 

[submarine7]

Tragic case and his father's grief is so painfully real. I've always believed that Andrew was lured to London under the guise of meeting a girl. I think he was catfished by a predator he met online. I know the claim is there was no evidence of online activity but I believe he had an online life.

He may have believed he was meeting another young man but I lean towards a girl. He was 14 and sheltered and the perfect victim. I think he was told a father or brother would fetch him from the station. I think he was fatally harmed the same day he went missing or soon after.

I also believe there is something to the man who appeared at the police station to report knowledge of Andrew's case. Of course, he disappeared and purportedly surfaced again in communications with the BBC denying he had info. I think he does.

 

[beubeubeu]

Sorry, I was misunderstood. All I'm saying is that Andrew could have kept secrets from his family and things that seemed out of character back when he was younger could have changed when he was 14. He could even have a long distance girlfriend in London he was trying to meet. The reason for his trip could have been an innocent thing like that. We're you all upfront to your parents about your first romantic interest? My parents knew nothing about it!

What happened after his arrival is anyone's guess. I agree that it is very unlikely he is still alive and willingly staying hidden.

Nobodys all upfront to parents about everything even with the best relationship possible and even without anything bad or risky going on cause not everything you share right away, not everything you feel a need to share, not everything feels like it needs to be shared at all.
Since not only parents but nobody else knowing what was going on with that trip, there obviously had to be some secret going on but that might be even "smaller" than having some friend, unknown to his family.

I think this is an updated LE page for Andrew, with a link for providing concrete information:

Public Portal

I dont think thats good that his most recognisable pics are these where he looks so much younger.
Like this:

Maybe it wasnt taken much earlier than he disappeared but that and that:

he looks like a total child there. Like 10-11 yo child.

Not so much anymore here, on the pic with dad and sister. Thats obviously a young teenager.

That little pic below shows his facial features well, but again - he still appear to have a bit of baby face there.
Doesnt look like that at all on these low quality surveillance footage shots.

I mean like... having that full collage of pics, it delivers a pretty good idea how Andrew looked like.

BUT just that first pic, or second, or third...
I seriously doubt that if I saw a boy from pic 4 or 5 I would recognize thats same missing person from pics 1, 2 or/and 3. I'd brush it off, like nah, that boy just looks similar, Im supposed to look out for a boy who looks super young for his age. But was he? At all? Or just at times maybe?

He totally looks like 14 yo for me on the pics below. Like yea, some boys at 14 already look like bit smaller version of a lumberjack, but most look kinda like that.

And this:

is just ridiculous to me. And totally irresponsible to put something like this out there.
Yes, it grabs more attention, but is it really helpful?
Obviously these four shots below arent what LE or family put out as his MP photos, they seem to be shared just for the sake of giving better idea of his facial features. But as people are sharing the story and putting out something like that.

What if they DID reached the right person with it? What if someone figured that oh, I was in London on 14, I was taking pics all around the place, better look through them cause maybe I caught this kid in the background somewhere... but no, no kid like that.
But Andrew didnt looked like that then anymore. He looked older. Significantly older.
At this point I dont think its a call to spike somebodys memory about what they could possibly SEE on that day and the only chance is the pic having him in background somewhere. Maybe that shirt would help. If he hasnt changed it.

Also weather archive says that on September 14 2007 it was like 15-16*C around 9:00 AM in Doncaster. So 58-60is F. Isnt that bit chilly for just a shirt?
Fine for a day as it got up to 21-22*C/70ish*F afternoon.
But late evening it dropped to like 14*C/56*F.
On the 10th and 11th it was cool/coldish. 12th and 13th kinda comfortable temp afternoon. But then cold/coldish again.

Wouldnt he put on a hoodie if he had a plan to stay somewhere late evening? Maybe he had one in his bag, but that wasnt mentioned anywhere, so might be that no hoodies went missing with him.
Doesnt that hint the assumption that whole trip didnt supposed to last past late afternoon?